Strap in for a blood-chilling journey back to the golden age of slasher movies with a deep dive into the classic horror film, Friday the 13th. Want to know if it still holds the same terror after all these years? Or perhaps you're curious to hear about the time Flea, Tim Robbins, Julia Roberts, and Angela Lansbury shared a birthday with the infamous Zap? Well, leave your lights on and keep your eyes peeled, because we're about to unmask the real horror behind Friday the 13th.
Pull up a seat as we explore the film's budget, locations and influential cast. We'll be spilling some behind-the-scenes stories and sharing our hair-raising memories of watching this cult classic for the first time. We'll dissect the fashion choices of the 80s, the special effects that made us jump out of our seats, and the iconic ax to the face death scene. From the mystery of the Moravian cemetery and the puzzling identity of the Jeep driver, to the thrill of the final fight between Alice and the killer, you're in for an unforgettable fright night.
Finally, we'll take a trip down memory lane, recalling a time when instant coffee ruled the roost and cigarettes could be bought from vending machines without a second glance. We'll compare notes on Alice's hair, the concept of Strip Monopoly, and of course, the film's haunting soundtrack. Get ready to see Friday the 13th in a whole new light as we reveal its connection to other timeless classics like Halloween. So grab your popcorn, extinguish all hopes of a quiet night, and join us as we brave the terror-filled world of Friday the 13th.
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Strap in for a blood-chilling journey back to the golden age of slasher movies with a deep dive into the classic horror film, Friday the 13th. Want to know if it still holds the same terror after all these years? Or perhaps you're curious to hear about the time Flea, Tim Robbins, Julia Roberts, and Angela Lansbury shared a birthday with the infamous Zap? Well, leave your lights on and keep your eyes peeled, because we're about to unmask the real horror behind Friday the 13th.
Pull up a seat as we explore the film's budget, locations and influential cast. We'll be spilling some behind-the-scenes stories and sharing our hair-raising memories of watching this cult classic for the first time. We'll dissect the fashion choices of the 80s, the special effects that made us jump out of our seats, and the iconic ax to the face death scene. From the mystery of the Moravian cemetery and the puzzling identity of the Jeep driver, to the thrill of the final fight between Alice and the killer, you're in for an unforgettable fright night.
Finally, we'll take a trip down memory lane, recalling a time when instant coffee ruled the roost and cigarettes could be bought from vending machines without a second glance. We'll compare notes on Alice's hair, the concept of Strip Monopoly, and of course, the film's haunting soundtrack. Get ready to see Friday the 13th in a whole new light as we reveal its connection to other timeless classics like Halloween. So grab your popcorn, extinguish all hopes of a quiet night, and join us as we brave the terror-filled world of Friday the 13th.
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https://freesound.org/people/Sami_Hiltunen/sounds/527187/ Eerie intro music
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https://freesound.org/people/Zott820/sounds/209578/ Cash register
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Thanks for tuning in to the Vintage Cinema Review on this week's episode. We're covering from 1980, Friday the 13th.
Speaker 2:God, I don't know what scares me more this movie or knowing the fact that it came out 43 years ago.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's crazy to think about.
Speaker 2:What's crazier to think about is I didn't see this movie until long after its sequels had come out. That same way same boat and it scared the hell out of me that ending.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this movie, I think, really held up. I just watched it again, obviously, and I really enjoyed it. We hope you're enjoying the podcast. Speaking of which, if you are, leave that five star rating on Spotify and Apple Five star rating, and you can also leave a written review on Apple. It would help us out. Sit back, relax and enjoy. From 1980, Friday the 13th. Hey, this is Dave.
Speaker 3:Matt and Zap, and welcome to the Vintage Cinema Review.
Speaker 1:Where, every week, we review some of our favorite films from the past.
Speaker 3:Hey, there ain't no late fees here.
Speaker 2:This is Golden and be kind rewind. Hello, hey guys, hey what's?
Speaker 3:up Nothing. I hear the VCR loading up again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that time of year it is that time of year Back into the scary season.
Speaker 3:Did you just get a new system for this? I did, yeah, I don't think they know about that in Radio Land.
Speaker 1:If I only had this on VHS I'd be a happy man, but I don't. I actually don't have any of these movies on VHS because they're so expensive. Anymore. I have Teen Wolf. That's a start.
Speaker 2:Are they? I don't know. You shop around, you're going to get a used one for a couple of bucks.
Speaker 1:I mean a playable one that's decent. They're, they're, they're kind of up there, unless you go locally.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean If you can find somebody locally that's selling like a big like a lot of them like 40 VHS for you. Go on eBay right now. I wanted to get this movie, just, you know, because we have the new setup which hopefully you guys will see this on our social media soon, you know, just to have. But no, they're still expensive. Like for my like. I'm not spending 30, 40 bucks on a used VHS of Friday the 13th which we're doing today.
Speaker 2:Oh, fun fact.
Speaker 1:We're doing.
Speaker 2:Friday, the 13th today.
Speaker 3:Fun fact, it's not Friday the 13th, nope.
Speaker 2:It's close, though it's close, it's not Friday the 13th. We just passed a Friday the 13th October was played host to a Friday the 13th.
Speaker 1:Does anybody know how often Friday, the 13th, like happen, Like like you know how many per year per hour, Like? Is there a?
Speaker 2:I don't want to make my brain work like that, yeah, but I just. That's a math.
Speaker 1:Is it? It's not one a year, right? I mean, it's not every year that you have, or is?
Speaker 2:it. You're going to get a Friday, the 13th, once per year.
Speaker 1:Is there.
Speaker 2:Okay, at least once.
Speaker 1:Right, very smart marketing If you're going to like go to a movie that every time, like you know, if you do Halloween, it's always Halloween, that movie's relevant, yep. Uh you know, although they made some shitty horror movies like April Fool's Day, it's not like on April Fool's Day you're like I'm going to watch April Fool's Day or trying to think of other movies that are tied to holidays.
Speaker 3:You know, is that a holiday?
Speaker 1:Well.
Speaker 3:April Fool I think we'll get off work for that.
Speaker 2:It could be. It could be. That's a. I think that's a British thing. Oh, april Fool's Day, boxing, day of the source of April 1st being April Fool's Day. I'm pretty sure that goes back to Mary Old England.
Speaker 1:Oh, how about that, jack the Ripper? He started it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, could have been Jack the Ripper.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, friday the 13th is close to. Well, this October was close to. We have a person on the podcast who celebrated a birthday recently.
Speaker 2:Not on Friday the 13th though. No, it's close though, yeah.
Speaker 3:That's right, we were looking at people. There was somebody from from. You know a show that we liked that he put on, that somebody passed away. Suzanne Summers, you shared a birthday.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she and I shared a birthday until she died.
Speaker 3:She died the day before her birthday. But yeah, I didn't know there was so many like cool people on Zap's birthday.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah man.
Speaker 3:They share that with you.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:It was a fun fact. I looked up, there was Flea. You bitches don't even know Flea's frigging awesome shares apps. Birthday Tim Robbins, julia Roberts.
Speaker 1:Tim Robbins was married to Susan Sarandon, who was married to Chris Sarandon, from where?
Speaker 3:are you tying this together? The?
Speaker 2:Friday night from Friday night.
Speaker 3:Oh, sarandon, yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1:Six degrees of you know six degrees of Kevin Bacon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, who's in Friday?
Speaker 1:the 13th. Yeah, was there somebody else to share his apps? Birthday.
Speaker 3:Who's the lady for murder? She wrote.
Speaker 1:Angela Lansbury.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh that one dude from the Phillies.
Speaker 3:Bryce Harper.
Speaker 2:Yes, for any Philly shans.
Speaker 1:Oh, for real yeah.
Speaker 3:And they're in the playoffs right now.
Speaker 1:So that's, that's that's a hot topic that's relevant. You're just like.
Speaker 3:Taylor Swift right now Can you hit?
Speaker 1:a ball again? No, me neither, not even close. So Friday, the 13th 1980. This came out rated R, as it should be. Release date on this May 9th 1980 in the United States. Running time on this 95 minutes, directed by Sean S Cunningham and written by Victor Miller, produced by Sean Cunningham. Very important on this one, I put this one down. Music by Harry Manfredini and a budget on this movie $550,000. Box office 59.8 million.
Speaker 3:God damn, those are right numbers, because when I read that too, like the one I read, I think it was 62 million.
Speaker 2:So 59 was the globe, 39 was domestic, domestic. So you let's quick math. Now I don't know about the calendar stuff, but I definitely know some dollars and cents, because if it doesn't make dollars, it doesn't make sense, that's right. If you're dropping half a million and you make 59 and change million. Wrap your head around that. That's like a 10,000 approaching 11,000% return. It's a lot of money. That's bananas.
Speaker 1:You know there's a documentary in zap and I were talking about I don't know if you watch it on Netflix called movies that made us.
Speaker 3:I've seen it. I've never saw, I didn't see it. I've seen it pop up right here and there on Netflix.
Speaker 1:They covered this in one of the episodes, and it starts off with a quote that I think it's. Sean Cunningham says Halloween is making a lot of money, let's rip it off. So basically, that was the idea.
Speaker 2:I've seen people make that same allegation that this was a direct rip off of Halloween.
Speaker 1:I don't see it though, really.
Speaker 3:What the silent figure? Well, this movie wasn't at all.
Speaker 1:No, I just don't think that they're. They're both horror movies, but I don't think Friday the 13th was much like Halloween other than it's a horror movie with a killer in it. Yeah, that's the only part I get, but this film was shot around the townships of Hardwick and Hope and Warren County, new Jersey. Filming on this was from September 4th through October 3rd of 1979. There's some fun facts on you. Know the actual camp where this is cool.
Speaker 3:Fun facts on this. Maybe the save after the end.
Speaker 1:But yeah, so anyway, that's pretty much it for the budget and locations and all that fun stuff. So turn it over to zap for the cast.
Speaker 2:Cool A way we go with the cast. As usual, this is those with speaking roles. We've got Betsy Palmer as Mrs Pamela Voorhees, adrian King as Alice, harry Crosby as Bill, janine Taylor as Marcy, laurie Bartram as Brenda, kevin Bacon as Jack, mark Nelson as Ned, robbie Morgan as Annie, peter Brewer as Steve Christie, rex Everett as Enos, the truck driver, ron Carroll as Sargent Tierney, walt Gourney as Crazy, ralph Willie Adams as Barry, deborah Hayes as Claudette and Sally Golden as Sandy.
Speaker 1:Some cast there.
Speaker 3:I know one of them, but I think the whole world knows one of them. It's true.
Speaker 2:Actually, when I was working a giant in college I worked with one of the front-end managers was named Adrian King.
Speaker 1:Oh, for real. Yeah, it was a middle-aged woman. Okay, not the same one.
Speaker 3:So you're going to say you work with Kevin Bacon.
Speaker 1:That would have been cool.
Speaker 2:It would have been cool if you have a last name, bacon, and you work at a grocery store.
Speaker 3:Kevin Bacon got to be 90 years old. How old is Kevin Bacon? Like 70?
Speaker 1:Like 60s. I think, my guess he was 19 when he filmed that thing.
Speaker 2:I was going to say, I'm just going to do some quick math. So if he was 20 in 1980 when he filmed this, and so you know, he looked like an old 20, or maybe it's like a 1980s 20. 43 years later. Now we're in 63.
Speaker 1:So yeah, like early 16s, that'd be my guess.
Speaker 2:He'd just been around forever. That guy is timeless. Does he have a big Johnson?
Speaker 1:They look like it.
Speaker 3:It is a Kevin Bacon Speedo collection.
Speaker 2:Dude. I'm saying like I've seen movies, like there's a oh, what's that movie with the wild things?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, with the two girls that make out. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2:He's in some kind of shadow. I was making something and like I don't know if you see it or not, but there's some shit going on down there.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of pictures. They show the bacon junk.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I didn't know that in that movie.
Speaker 2:I don't remember. I just remember.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't remember he was in it. I mean, I haven't seen wild things in a while. That was Neve Campbell and then the other girl that was married to Charlie Sheen. She's real hot.
Speaker 3:Yeah, denise Richards, denise Richards, no, but the dude in that was Kevin Bacon. In that, I thought it was the other guy with the that was in the dark haired guy. Promise you, kevin Bacon was Charlie Sheen. No, no, no, he was in one of the movies we did with.
Speaker 1:Pony Boy and M? Oh, Rob Lowe. No, Rob Lowe.
Speaker 2:His son or not? Not his son. His brother was. His brother was in entourage.
Speaker 3:Yes, that dude oh.
Speaker 2:Dylan Dylan.
Speaker 1:Matt Dylan, matt Dylan, yeah, yeah, he was in that.
Speaker 3:Sure For damn sure yes.
Speaker 1:Well, back to this one, Matt.
Speaker 2:Oh shit Sorry.
Speaker 1:Yeah, matt, you got a brief synapsis.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this one's a super brief, sweet, and it's a synapsis. Terror and suspense abound in the 24 hour nightmare of blood. Camp Crystal Lake has been shuttered for over 20 years due to several vicious and unsolved murders. The camp's new owner and seven young counselors are writing the property for opening, despite warnings of death and curse by local residents. The curse proves true on Friday, the 13th, as each one of the counselors is stalked by a violent killer. This film is widely acclaimed for its horrifying and creative murder sequences. Ladies and gentlemen, Friday the 13th.
Speaker 2:Nice, that's the Friday the 13th I know. That's the one, yep, that's definitely the one, gary, so I will. Just a quick warning to our listeners now.
Speaker 1:I'm hoping that you've seen this movie, but if you haven't and you plan on watching it, there's going to be spoilers in this movie. There's some stuff that goes on in this movie that I think will be shocking to some people, so I'll just tell you definitely, we want you to listen to the podcast. I'm not telling you to not listen to the podcast, but understand that we're going to give some stuff away in this and it could ruin the movie, because I think this is actually if you've never seen this, it'd be a little shocking the first time for some people.
Speaker 3:So this is like the warning, just for Friday the 13th. I got a story behind that, just for myself man.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:We pretty much go through, like all like the stories with the spoilers.
Speaker 1:Right, but this one especially. Like I know there's some people that were shocked, Like really.
Speaker 2:Sometimes I wonder if we spoil the story just by doing the story.
Speaker 1:Sometimes yeah.
Speaker 3:Maybe we should do like a cinema review and just like talk about nothing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we could do that we could not give anything away. We could make a show about that.
Speaker 1:This is a whole edge. That's good, that's good, but anyway, yeah. So just a warning from here on out, we're going to tell the story of the movie and there's some stuff that maybe you didn't know If you haven't seen it in a while. Even you might have forgot. So just a forewarning. So is that? You ready to Matt, and you guys ready to go through this?
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's go with a loosey goosey approach today.
Speaker 3:Let's try this.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go some loosey goosey, so it's going to get all crazy. This is. This story is a real short one. I mean it only takes place over a day, but we get a little flashback. We start with a flashback back in 1958. Camp Crystal Lake. So everybody's, you know, having fun. They're just singing along, playing guitars, and these two counselors, you know, they catch one another's eyes. Next thing, you know, they whisk away from the group make their way upstairs into some cabin or barn or wherever they're at Cabin barn, cabin barn.
Speaker 2:I mean it's a funky.
Speaker 3:I don't know what that was. Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 2:Next thing, you know, they start getting freaky-deaky and from the perspective, the first person perspective, you just see somebody climbing up the stairs. Next thing, you know, they both get murdered.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've never known like hymns and like church hymns that lead to that, like that quickly.
Speaker 3:Well then they were. I think they were doing that for to like, poke fun of like. Or we heard a summer camp singing about Jesus.
Speaker 1:I mean it's literally like finished singing Hallelujah or whatever, and then they're like banging. Yeah, you know what I mean. It's just like no waiting around at all.
Speaker 2:The only time I got turned on to church was when I was in high school, at Mass that we'd have each week or whatever.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And you just look around at those dresses. Yeah, yeah, damn.
Speaker 1:That'll do it. But like literally, like yeah, that literally they're singing like you know all the you know church, church hymns, and then they're off, like going at it.
Speaker 3:Can have any of you guys been to summer camps Like when? When was this the thing where kids get sent away for like three months over the summer?
Speaker 2:So I don't know if it was three months, but for sure I get you, I get you. Okay. So I went to Boy Scout camps. For sure, like every summer, I would go to at least one, but it was oftentimes like two and you would just go for like a week at a time and I go. That you know you earn merit badges. You take basically you're taking like week long classes for lack of a better word to learn, like whatever, and then you get a merit badge at the end, assuming that you do your shit Right.
Speaker 3:Sans the boy? Yeah, cause I remember there was Boy Scout camps when I but my dad was always like no.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Right, so I never went to any of the. Those were like for a week usually.
Speaker 1:Correct, these are summer camps, yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm talking about these ones where, like kids go away, like they come back and they like been like boating and like meatball. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Are you ready for the summer? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:But you see all these movies about them. In my neighborhood I did not know of a kid that went to like a summer camp, like that.
Speaker 2:I know a lot of them were. I mean, I'd see advertisements for it. I know a number of them were like church sponsored, or the camps that I don't want to say the camps themselves were owned or operated by a church function. But Ah, I don't know.
Speaker 3:It seemed like fun, like I would really have wanted to go to one back then.
Speaker 1:I would have probably maybe entertained it and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:You probably would have got like a free, free ride, cause like a city kid Like Dave's never seen grass.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Like a boat. Look at that water Like I'm scared, I can't swim.
Speaker 2:Where does water come from? I thought you just got it out of the spigot.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Dave's looking for like a fire hydrant.
Speaker 3:Like where the woods man?
Speaker 2:Yeah, where is the lake, so where's the police station?
Speaker 1:Cool, I still am, to this day, not very outdoorsy, and I wasn't back then, so I probably have been out of my element and not, you know, definitely not been into it. Maybe I would have enjoyed it, though, back then if I started at a young age.
Speaker 1:I was never in Boy Scout so I never had that skill set like, oh, let's start a fire, let's do whatever. You know never did any of that stuff, but I know what you're saying. I didn't know a lot of kids either growing up that went away to like summer camp. Yeah, it seems like more of like a big city thing like New York kids and maybe I something to do that Like I don't know Wealth, like if you live in like a wealthy area you have the money to. I'm sure it's not cheap.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I remember like wheat camps, like at the YMCA, like I went to a couple when I was a kid. There was like a swimming camp, there was like a basketball camp, stuff like that I would go to. But I would always, like I remember even asking, I think, like in seventh or sixth or seventh grade, going into eighth grade maybe, I said to my mom and dad I was like is there like any camps, like like I don't know, maybe from just seeing these movies, like that'll be cool.
Speaker 1:But I wouldn't see this movie and want to go to a camp. I'd be like it would make me not want to go Now, meatballs, maybe I'd want to go?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know, I'd be there. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Sounds fun.
Speaker 2:I didn't. I enjoyed camps, Boy Scouts.
Speaker 1:Boy Scouts yeah.
Speaker 2:All right, so all right. Then the next segment of our movie. We open up to 20, some years later, 22 years later, because this went back in 1958.
Speaker 1:Right, we're now in 1980.
Speaker 2:1980. So we're, in fact we're on Friday, the 13th June of 1980. We see this, you know, free spirited chick hitchhiking her way, thumbing her way through town. She uh just looking for a ride, making her way to she's going to be a counselor at this uh Camp Crystal Lake. Wants to make her way there, it needs a ride. Walks into the diner hey man, is anybody going to? Could anybody take me to Camp Crystal Lake? And all of a sudden, like you hear, you know, the record scratch and the silverware drops and everybody just gives her these dire four warnings Like look man, that's a murder camp and that's all. That's death and it's cursed. It's awful. And we're introduced to, uh, the town, crazy Ralph.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ralph, I like Ralph.
Speaker 2:I mean, you just see, Ralph, you just see, think of this drunkard, this dude that's had one too many. He's been, you know, huffing spray paint or something. Suspect number one. Suspect number one. But yeah, dude. So all right, eventually this chick gets a ride from uh, the one local dude.
Speaker 3:Enus Enus. Thank you, enus, he's a big perv.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he put her up by ass. Yeah, did you see that?
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's grabbing her ass to put her in. He's like get up in there, young lady. Can you blame him?
Speaker 2:I can relax Enus. She was not ugly, by the way.
Speaker 3:No, she was the cutest one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, to me it was like cute as a button.
Speaker 2:Of all of them, she was by far and away.
Speaker 3:She had like the freckles and like the nice 80s hair, she was not ugly.
Speaker 2:No. So yeah, she makes it with the local fuel driver, fuel deliveryman.
Speaker 1:Enus Tom Bosley looking cat. Yeah, yeah, you know from.
Speaker 2:He takes her as far as the graveyard, the Moravian cemetery, and I don't know why I focused on that Moravia is.
Speaker 3:I think it's a you know, a college it is. It's a, it's a Catholic college.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Moravian. Isn't it New Jersey? No, it's in Pennsylvania, okay.
Speaker 2:I'll save that. I'll save that follow up for later. But and then from there she, like he drops her off, like shit, I'm not going that way, but I'll take you this far. Then she starts thumbing her way again or just walking her way to the camp by now and she gets picked up by. We never see the person driving the Jeep.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:The driver, but we just see the Jeep pick her up. She jumps in Next. Thing. You know they pass the camp like hey man, like there's the entrance, you just pass it.
Speaker 3:Hmm.
Speaker 2:Well, lo and behold, the dudes are the person driving speeds up. All right, well, shit, I got to get out. I'm scared out of my life, says this counselor. So she jumps out of the moving vehicle.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that part was.
Speaker 1:You can tell it's low down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was, uh, that was pretty bad. She struck me as somebody who every bit of her life, every item she owned, was in that backpack.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I'm thinking she just jumps out. So she jumps out of this Jeep, you know, lands on the wherever in the little gully, starts making her way through the woods. No, not happening. In true slasher fashion, that Jeep driver slams on the brakes, backs up, gets out, chases her, slashes the throat.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Done Murder number one. Yep yeah.
Speaker 3:What was weird about that is like where was she come? Was she like on the Appalachian trail? It's like I guess I'm going to camp Like. That didn't make any sense either. I didn't understand that part.
Speaker 1:Well, she was going there to work. That's you, you know.
Speaker 2:That's why I'm, that's why I'm thinking like yeah, that chick, her whole life was in that backpack.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's like she was coming down off the mountain or something. She's like I'm going to cook for this. Uh, this camp, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Cook meth.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Maybe, I don't know, but yeah, she was like super cute, like oh yeah, she's pretty hot, yeah.
Speaker 3:But yeah, enis kept telling her like the places jinx, don't go there. Yeah, she's like in 57, the boy drowned and two counselors were dead in 58 and there are fires and there's you can't drink the water and oh, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2:So the kid died, two counselors were killed. That's the fifth 1958 team we saw, and then that's right. The water got poisoned in 62. Like something went foul with the water.
Speaker 1:Something weird. Rumor has it. You call that phone number on that truck and it's still an active number for that.
Speaker 3:Oh for the oil.
Speaker 1:Stop.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's what they say, really yeah.
Speaker 1:Who knows if that's true. I read that online, though Rumor has it. I mean, rumor does have it. Who is that? That's a Dell Dell, oh okay.
Speaker 2:That is a Dell. Yeah, oh, dude. So Enis was great. I loved you would say. Ralph was just again still in town. He's all stumbling around doing whatever the town crazy, yeah, hopping on his bike. Enis was the best. God damn it, ralph. Just to just to shut him up. God damn it, ralph.
Speaker 3:Ralph had to have been somebody's uncle. I knew he wasn't an actor.
Speaker 2:I think Ralph was his own uncle.
Speaker 1:And that dude is driving that truck. He's probably he looks world, but I bet he's probably like our age. Now, Like always like bad at judging ages back in the day- yeah. Because like that dude looked to me like probably 60, but I bet you like 45.
Speaker 2:At least, I should say, at the most.
Speaker 1:Right yeah.
Speaker 2:Everybody looked older back then because they all had to work hard for a living Right and used alcohol based skin products. Skin products Yep, everything was out of order. Yeah, yeah, that'll do it. They dried out.
Speaker 1:All right, so man why don't you take us through the next part of the movie All right.
Speaker 3:Well, next part of the movie, we're going back to Camp Crystal Lake. All the other counselors have arrived. We have three young men and three young ladies Bill Jack, ned, brenda and Marcy, along with Alice. They appear to have an intimate relationship recently with the owner, steve, who's there to crown assign everyone with their tasks. Did you guys notice what Steve was wearing?
Speaker 1:I did and I wrote this down. There's a lot of like shirtless dudes back in the 80s.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:You know that was like the thing cut off jeans, shorts.
Speaker 3:But I thought he was one of the village people, because he got lost.
Speaker 1:The handkerchief yeah Around his neck he had like a red handkerchief he had.
Speaker 2:It's almost like an.
Speaker 3:Ascot just on its own. Yeah, on its own, but he reminded me of my dad, like doing yard work in the 80s, I don't know.
Speaker 2:He reminded you mentioned it, matt that they it was actually Alice who had seemed to have an intimate relationship with Steve, like he was pervy, like really pervy with that shit. Well, I thought they were together.
Speaker 3:That was the weird part, because he was like touching her chin and her cheek and I was like what the hell is that?
Speaker 1:The way he was talking to her is that it was very odd.
Speaker 3:It was kind of pervy. I thought she was kind of cute too.
Speaker 1:And I like that. Like them do outdoorsy guys. They have the belt knife, like the knife holder on the belt Shit. Yeah, you know that was her pants man. Oh, it's prepared.
Speaker 3:That thing was created like at a leathery. I made it for him and had his initials on it, Remember this is like a big thing With a strop the local policeman arrives looking for Ralph, the town crazy, who we discussed, and soon departs.
Speaker 3:Alice later finds Ralph hiding in the pantry. He warns her and a few of the other counselors of the curse camp and swiftly departs on his bicycle. Days turn into night. One of the counselors, Ned, sees a shadowy figure lurking around one of the cabins and decides to follow. Not long after Jack and Marcy succumb to the throbbing carnal urges and make sweet, sweet love in one of the cabins. I like the carnal urge.
Speaker 1:Yeah that's good, that's nice, that's nice.
Speaker 3:On the bottom bunk where, unbeknownst to them, ned's lifeless body lies on the bunk above. That's where he was stabbed through or something. Right, yeah, he was just laying there.
Speaker 1:He was like you saw him Earlier on. He sees a figure up at the cabin or I think it was a cabin and he's like, hey, who is that up there? And then you just see him disappear up into there. You know what I mean. That's correct.
Speaker 2:He disappears in that cabin and then you see, jack and Marcy, this is Kevin Bacon, right, kevin, apparently huge. Johnson Bacon, huge.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there was like a storm coming. Yeah, they just make their way into the same cabin.
Speaker 2:So, as Matt had mentioned, I mean that's when they're slapping it on the bottom bunk and above them is dead ass. Ned with his throat cut eyes open. I like Ned's jersey.
Speaker 1:I like the dolphins. Yeah, it was a dolphins 88.
Speaker 3:Number 88. Who was that? Um, back then, like Mark Dupre, mark Dupre, yeah, clayton. There was Clayton and Dupre were the two main receivers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, those kind of shirts were like big in the 80s, like everybody always had the jerseys, like the long sleeve jerseys or a stripe they would cut them off though.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you had to have like a belly shirt, and I'm looking at like the clothes in this movie.
Speaker 1:So if I watched this movie in high school in the 90s, I'm like man, what are they dressed like, that Like of these shorts? What do they? Got them like track sneakers on you. You know, back then, like in the nineties, you're probably like I had to look with their wearing, but now you're looking like that's kind of a cool sport, like everything goes in cycles, in other words, like some of the stuff, some of the stuff they're wearing.
Speaker 1:I could other than a cut off jeans shorts. I don't see many dudes rocking them with the phrase as much but a lot of the other stuff I think came back around, like the track shoes, like that, and all that you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so after these two sexy time they Marcy decides what she has to go pee or something like that, so she gets up, wash out whatever Kevin left up in there. Making bacon.
Speaker 2:So she goes to this abandoned like little place.
Speaker 3:They got one of the bunks or whatever and Jack's house right yeah, the bath house. Jack is killed with an arrow jutting from beneath the bed and through his throat, which was kind of like a lame. It's just like, eh, that was a one and done special effect.
Speaker 1:So if they screwed it up, it was done. You know what I mean. Cause they had like, yeah, cause they had like a. It was like a from the head down, it was all fake. So that's how they did that effect.
Speaker 1:With Kevin Bacon, you would stick your head up through the bed and then underneath, so the torso and everything below the neck down was all fake, and when they stuck the arrow through it it destroyed it Obviously. So they had to get it right Like in one take, or else the budget would have been 551 pounds Right right. Pretty much, but I thought it turned out pretty good. Now I watched this on max, I don't know.
Speaker 3:That's what I saw at HBO max.
Speaker 1:And the quality is really, really good. This movie I was kind of blown away like the quality watching it. Now, I don't. It's not 4k on there, it might have been 1080p. But a lot of times with these special effects in these old movies, when they're cleaned up like that, you can really call it out. But I thought these weren't too bad. I was impressed.
Speaker 3:So after Jack's death and true slasher fashion, Marcy is killed with a true slasher fashion. Marcy is killed soon in the bathroom with an axe to the face. That was just an act.
Speaker 2:Okay, so as Matt mentioned the way that Jack was killed, all right, like that's tough, that's tough to believe, but I agree with you, I thought it was a great special effect. To see that arrow popping out and doing its thing Like that was pretty sharp. Now, this chick Marcy, she's just standing in the bathroom like look man, I'm no, I'm no scientist and I'm certainly no actor, but she's just standing there. Oh, as the like, come on, do something, run, try to try to fight, you've got an axe coming at you.
Speaker 2:For Christ's sake. Right, it was so beat the way that she just accepted an axe to the face, just took it like no big deal. I like that too. She just took it from Jack. Maybe she was just tired, but she was on the bottom, he was doing all the work.
Speaker 1:So, matt, I know you remember growing up I had an old house like in high school and before that I had a. My bedroom was in the basement and I had a shower down there in a full bathroom and remember it was like a rounded shower with a curtain and stuff like that and totally how that girl was doing.
Speaker 3:How would I remember that you used to sleep over all the time?
Speaker 1:But I used to do that nightly because I was down there by myself and I'd watch these horror movies and stuff. But I'd flip that curtain up open so fast, you know what I mean? Just cause I always felt like somebody was in there and when that girl was walking around that bathroom or bath house or whatever it was, she was like flipping those curtains open quickly, like I was expecting to see somebody there. Of course there wasn't until that last one, but I could totally relate to that.
Speaker 1:Cause every time I see a curtain close, not so much as an adult anymore, but as a teenager, young kid. Watch this, I promise you, I did that exact same thing.
Speaker 2:I promise you I did that. I would take that a step further. Not only would I look shower curtains or any kind of curtain, if a door was open and against the wall.
Speaker 3:I would look behind it, I would look behind the door, every fucking door, I would do that there's still times like, even like if I shut the lights off downstairs, I'd like go quick up the steps, look at behind you like what's that?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I still do that.
Speaker 3:I did stay in my basement a little bit and my dad finally built me a room in the basement. I remember leaving night lights on. Cause it's dark down there, man. There's no light. It's like natural light coming in there.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying, that's what my basement was.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it had like this little window. I don't even know what it was there for Some kind of weird window I don't know the rear window.
Speaker 2:Who's to say it is interesting with Alice. So Alice is the blonde chick that was being hit on by Purvey Steve. She had the and I mean the text book. You know it was from the late 70s into the early 80s hairstyle. Like it's that weird and it was an interchangeable hairstyle, like girls had it and boys had it, yeah from behind you. So like I look at this chick's hair and I think of like Joey Lawrence as a kid.
Speaker 1:Right, that feathered kind of hair.
Speaker 2:It's like the feather, but they always had like the middle part, it was a part and it was straight, but it would come down and it would look like almost like a mushroom cap on their heads. The boy from the shining had it. It was just that everybody had or not everybody, but you know for a damn sure fact that was the hairstyle to have.
Speaker 3:I think it was like my third and fourth and fifth grade maybe hairstyle. Cause my mom would cut my hair. But I always had the middle part, Like where, why? Why was there a middle?
Speaker 2:part. I don't know it always followed with bangs.
Speaker 1:As did this movie a lot of them.
Speaker 2:Hey, look, this is. I'm sure we'll get to it, but maybe we won't. But I mean, this is textbook, just like Halloween. So this is just gratuitous teenage sex. And it's the thing like look, if you're having sex in this movie, I promise you you're going to get murdered.
Speaker 3:Well, that was the whole reason I think was the killing of the people that had sex is because the counselors were having sex instead of paying attention to the workers, right, so you're going to pay doing that, doing drugs, any of that bad stuff, yeah any of the bad stuff cause you're not watching the kids in the pool. That's right.
Speaker 2:Yep, yep, or the lake, wherever they're at, the lake pool pool lake. You could have water. You should use the pond Pond. All right, let's get this back on the track. So yeah, those two die Great. Oh, back to Steve the perv. So he left the kids back at the camp. He's off having diner, delicious diner. He's having a delicious dinner at a diner At a price of low, low price of $2.25, by the way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that diner had hunts ketchup. I noticed that that's bad.
Speaker 2:But they had no choice of fairly charging $2.25 for coffee and dinner, true, true, just saying. But hey, big spender, he left her $0.75 tip. That's a good tip.
Speaker 3:I thought that was the mom from Goodfellas for a second there.
Speaker 1:I was like what's the mom?
Speaker 3:from Goodfellas doing here.
Speaker 1:She's like oh take me out later, Steve. Yeah, that was sad you never come around anymore. Yeah, what you doing, Steve.
Speaker 3:Take me out, man. She was horrible at it, she was bad Poor thing she was good as a waitress, all right.
Speaker 2:So he finishes his meal, raining like hell outside, so now he goes back to the camp. In the meantime, you've got Alice, the one with the hair that we talked about, bill, the guy who's able to play a guitar, apparently, and Brenda, this other brunette. They start and basically end this wholesome game of strip monopoly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I had that written down. I've never heard of that before.
Speaker 3:Nobody's ever heard of that. Can you imagine how long it would take to get like a shirt off? Yeah, I don't understand the concept of that Because we've all played monopoly. It makes no sense.
Speaker 2:You're going to run out of turns by the 10th turn. I mean, it's basically 10 rolls of a dice per person and the game's over.
Speaker 1:I caught something too during that, so, and that's the beauty of, and that's assuming a lot of clothes. True, true.
Speaker 2:So two boots, let me count this up. Two boots, two socks, one underpants. I would just have layers on One shirt, one shorts. So, there's seven. There's seven articles of clothing.
Speaker 1:I would have like three shirts.
Speaker 3:But the women were already down to like. She was in her underwear and I was like, wait, if they're good on it. Like, oh, you landed on my spot. Like, how long does it even take in order to buy that spot, horses?
Speaker 1:I'd come in like the kid from Christmas story. Yeah, it's all bundled up. I can't move my arms, but I noticed something like being that, like I said, this video quality like blew my mind on Max, how clear it was. So she rolls a dice and say two sixes, you can see she rolled a two, so she was lying.
Speaker 2:She's a liar.
Speaker 1:And they probably didn't have the money to reshoot.
Speaker 2:Look, she's a liar, true, but $550,000 budget.
Speaker 1:I thought she was the murderer at that point, cause you lie.
Speaker 2:Could you imagine that? Look just like that. Just like that. Kevin Bacon dummy with the arrow that came through it. All right, you got to roll two sixes in one take, and if you don't fuck this up, you got to roll two sixes. Obviously, that's not going to happen.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Anyway, so they call it a night. Brenda goes back to her cabin. She hears. Now, while she's sitting there, she hears these screams of this kid Like that, you know, she of course horror movie fashion. She goes out to investigate in the poor ring rain.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:In her undies in her rain jacket.
Speaker 2:In her underpants, so she was asking for it. She was so she walks out just when her underpants. I don't know if she's even wearing shoes. Walks out with her, just her underpants and a green slicker. Yeah, a raincoat, a raincoat she ends up making her way to, of all places, the archery range. Flood lights on blinder. Next thing you know we don't see it. But the last thing we hear is Brenda's scream.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So that dude brought a guitar. He knew he was, he knew what he was doing. Yeah, chicks, dig that man. You sit around there.
Speaker 3:He was playing, he was like nuh nuh, nuh, nuh, nuh, nuh, nuh, nuh, nuh, nuh, nuh, nuh, nuh. What was he playing?
Speaker 2:He was playing oh my gosh, what was it? It wasn't classical gas, it wasn't classical gas no, but you heard that Time in a bottle Maybe. But you heard Alice, you heard her. Oh, that was wonderful. That sounds nice, yeah.
Speaker 3:Did you do that Like senior week? Did you bring your acoustic? I know I didn't.
Speaker 1:Mark did. Yeah, Mr Mark. Mr Mark, he brought his guitar, he did in hopes Real quick.
Speaker 3:I don't know if we touched on it. Do you guys remember Officer Dorff?
Speaker 2:It's never real quick who's Officer Dorff.
Speaker 3:Officer Dorff was the guy that came in. He was like yeah, on the bike, the guy's running around like in India and he's like, hey, can it Cochise yeah yeah, yeah, that's right, I do remember that, and he's like hey, man, Colombian gold grass got the hash, the weed, dig it, that's right.
Speaker 2:I was like this guy's badass yeah he knew all the lingo. He was cool.
Speaker 3:He was trying to get the kids to be like, yeah, we got some of these gonna bust them.
Speaker 1:Dude, so was Brenda a lesbian. Which one was Brenda? Again, the blonde, the brunette.
Speaker 3:No, I think so.
Speaker 2:So three people the one that was playing, yeah, yeah, three people played strip monopoly the Alice, who was with the pervy Steve, then Brenda the brunette, who was the one who said hey let's play strip monopoly, that's right. The one that just got killed here.
Speaker 1:Maybe she was. I didn't really catch that vibe.
Speaker 2:I caught it like cause she's hanging out with these other two people and she's like oh, I got a call tonight and just when things were getting interesting.
Speaker 3:Oh, and then she just gets tired of it. She had to take a dump or something.
Speaker 2:She might have.
Speaker 3:I think she had to dump.
Speaker 2:She felt uncomfortable Eating that camp food. She was like let me get out of here Eating hamburgers or whatever she's powdered crap. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I didn't catch that vibe, but I mean it's possible.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think she just wanted to party.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I'm trying to think who came as couples. So yeah, kevin Bacon and the one brunette.
Speaker 3:But the other dude like there.
Speaker 1:The blondest girl there was, with the handkerchief guy around the neck, but she wasn't with him, correct?
Speaker 2:Well, kind of he wanted a perv on her so they had been together, like it's like he was wanting to make up with her. Something went awry.
Speaker 1:And what. She drew a picture of him or he drew a picture of her. Like he had that picture I think he was showing her.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, does this? Yeah, no, he was like is this me?
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's like yeah. Yeah yeah, yeah, so there was something going on with those two, but yeah, I don't know, it's pervy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that dude was too old for her. Well, for Christ's sake, he was the owner Right, so you'd never ever ever get intimate with your employees.
Speaker 1:You just don't do that. It's a no-no.
Speaker 3:He had only the hiking boots too, with, like, the hiking socks. He was all that was man. I'm doing that for Halloween this year.
Speaker 2:No shirt.
Speaker 3:No, no shirt, just the ascot. No, I'm gonna have the shirt, the ascot. I'm gonna get a must. I'm just gonna cut everything off. I'm gonna have the mustache and an axe. I might get a wig. No, but I got. I think my dad has one of those knife sheaths, oh.
Speaker 1:I have one. Well, that's the thing I said. That's a cool look.
Speaker 3:It has like G G M N on it.
Speaker 1:It's very manly like to have that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I mean to warn that for this I got one with my old Boy Scout knife in it.
Speaker 3:But see, like we carry, I mean I carry a knife, I know you carry a knife, you know, but like they're just ones that like they have the little slide on now you don't need, like, the whole packaging for the knife you don't need the belt buckle holster Right, right, right.
Speaker 1:I used to clip my phone on on my. You know what I mean. Remember when your cell phones would click onto your so the StarTac.
Speaker 2:I definitely did that with the StarTac, the Motorola StarTac, that it came in its own little case that you would clip onto the inside of your pocket. It felt like a beeper.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:But I mean it's your phone.
Speaker 1:It was attached. Cell phones would have helped these people out in this movie.
Speaker 2:It could have, it could have.
Speaker 3:Shit yeah. So let's get back to this cool ass jeep that Steve has Goop goop.
Speaker 1:Yeah, go for it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's getting stuck in the mud on the way back to camp. Fortunately for him, he was able to hitch a ride with a local policeman Dropped off at the entrance of the camp, steve is greeted by someone with whom he is clearly acquainted Some friend they are. Steve is swiftly murdered. I love the answer.
Speaker 1:It's like.
Speaker 3:I'm speaking like Zapp. I like it. Yeah, it's cool, but it's just it's.
Speaker 1:It's opposite day.
Speaker 3:Yeah, now concerned for their friends.
Speaker 2:Wait a second, wait a second. Does this mean I'm gonna have to start doing Bill Cosby impressions?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm tearing it, see, that's funny, though that's funny.
Speaker 2:All right, go, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:Matt. Go ahead, go, this is good. Now, concerned for their friends, alice and Bill, decide to explore the camp, at night and pouring down rainstorm, to determine their whereabouts. They find a bloody ax laying in Brenda's bed and are unable to locate any other counselors. In hopes of calling the police, they find the phone out of service. As we see the line had been cut outside. That's classic, horror movie Classic. Someone has since also cut the power to the camp and Bill leaves Alice's company in hopes of activating the generator. Tired of waiting, alice searches for Bill, finds him pinned to the generator room door with arrows.
Speaker 1:That's what he wanted. That's the ticket.
Speaker 3:That's the one. After she barricades herself in one of the cabins, brenda's lifeless, bloody body is thrust through one of the glass windows of the cabin. Alice is frantic. That's in all caps.
Speaker 1:Oh gosh, I mean she's crazy Within moments.
Speaker 3:A jeep arrives just in the nick of time we're introduced to Ms Voorhees, a friend of the owners. Alice's savior has arrived.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:I wonder if that jeep that broke down, if it was the rear diff.
Speaker 3:The shift diff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and now having your jeep.
Speaker 3:No, my jeep's in.
Speaker 1:it's the axle, that was the rear axle.
Speaker 2:I thought these jeeps were supposed to go anywhere, guess not. In fact, the one cop said to him when he picked up what's his name, when he picked up Steve, he's like hey man, I thought these jeeps were supposed to go anywhere. And Steve said, well, basically fuck off. I've got a trailer attached to this thing, Right.
Speaker 3:It was like a 74 jeep.
Speaker 2:It's cool 72 and it's raining kiddies and puppies out here. I can't do it. I just can't do it.
Speaker 1:It was a cool looking Jeep though. They were cool looking, but yeah, I don't know how well that one was running, did you guys?
Speaker 3:notice that part. Like the, the cop had, like the windshield wipers are going like frantically. He's like oh, it looks like it's clearing up a little bit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's the one room, and he's like and he finally shuts them down. It's like nothing yeah we're not gonna get, we're not gonna seize the the heavy stuff for a while. Yeah, oh. So, as we're watching this movie right now, we've. We've. In the beginning you had crazy ass Ralph. God damn it, ralph. Then this dude is at the camp that the police are looking for him, for Christ's sake. And old Bicycle Ralph, crazy Ralph, shows up, hides in the fucking pantry and then comes out and scares these people.
Speaker 2:Now as as as pervy Steve is riding in the cop car. They're talking about Ralph again. Like, look, not for nothing, ralph, my money's on Ralph being the bad guy. You would think. Yeah, you would think.
Speaker 1:I like that scene that you talked about when his Jeep broke down, and I Just watched it again this afternoon, when he's coming out of the shadows in the yellow ring coat and he's like oh, what are you doing out here?
Speaker 1:You know what I mean? It was a cool looking scene, like watching it on a on a nice 4k television, like they really did a good job with. Like it's just black, pitch black and you see this yellow ring coat and he's walking in the camp Crystal Lake and that's where he's confronted with our murderer, who we don't know it is yet. I just thought I was like a cool scene the way they shot that yeah, it's like oh, how are you do?
Speaker 2:Oh, what are you doing here?
Speaker 1:It's dab so obviously this killer is not threatening, I guess, the people, because the girl got in the car, in the Jeep, with him. Yeah this guy's like approaching and he knows them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so clearly acquainted.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Steve was just using trying to hitch a ride to studio 54.
Speaker 2:Oh, so we've got the. They're not necessarily locally here, but they certainly are local in Philly and I know that there's one in Mount Carmel, the brand of instant coffee that Alice was brewing, mmm acme.
Speaker 1:Oh, for real, for real. Yeah, you know, I put a note down there. Instant coffee was all the rage in the 80s, I guess because I remember my parents as we get it's told yours or you know there was Folgers and Forget the other one, but it was like instant coffee, like. I don't remember as a kid, like my parents are, even when we were at places, people always did the instant coffee seem like yeah very popular, I guess.
Speaker 2:Sanka.
Speaker 1:Sanka. Yes, sanka, that was another one.
Speaker 3:Sure, I wonder when they started putting, because I remember using the metal ones like little tin, seeing my parents, you know Well, not I using them, but then they, when I would start buying coffee, they had the plastic measured little cups in them. You guys remember those, oh yeah. Oh yeah, I haven't had instant coffee in a long time, like it wasn't even instant, it was just it would start selling the cans with the, the scoops already inside.
Speaker 2:I mean, you know you rush them around. Yeah, there it is. It came with the plastic John in it, Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Have you had instant coffee recently?
Speaker 2:I have instant coffee at least twice a year.
Speaker 1:And then like what's it? Is it shitty?
Speaker 2:No, it's good, it's free, so it's just a freeze-dried bean right so they take the bean, they freeze them, freeze, dry them, then they chop them up Right, and so would you add hot water to that. It disintegrates the bean. It's quite delicious.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I was curious because I haven't had it in a long time. Taster's Choice still out there. Sanka still out there right, yeah, dude, I Would you prefer that like? Would you prefer the fresh brew?
Speaker 2:No, I mean to be clear. I would if, given the choice, for sure I'll take brew over freeze-dried or brewed over instant.
Speaker 1:But it's not far apart.
Speaker 2:No like. And in my case, when I say I have it twice a year, I'll, I'm going out camp hiking and camping for a few days twice per year.
Speaker 1:So you need a convenience Shit. Yeah, what about you?
Speaker 2:I'm not brewing coffee in the wilderness. I'll just take hot water and throw it into coffee and then I'm done. Was it? It made for astronauts?
Speaker 1:I don't know might do that and tang tang. Yes, you have at your work where you can play cards on the cups and stuff. They still do that.
Speaker 3:Those are from the 80s, I believe. Actually, I think in the early 90s they might have a few still sitting around. I mean that's a thing.
Speaker 1:I just picture your work. I was gonna say where you work, but no, they did, they did have those yeah, I.
Speaker 3:Do you remember like they would like slide down it, like you see the couple, like It'll always get like crooked and shit, and you're trying to get it back. You're trying to beat it before it's the waters, the and like you'd knock it over and it's getting on your hand, it burns your hand and yeah.
Speaker 1:So what you're saying is, is one of them machines with the card? Coffee would be next to the cigarette machine. That's how long ago, basically saying they're not around as much anymore.
Speaker 3:Yeah okay.
Speaker 1:That's what I was wondering.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there was actually when I I Think when I started there, I think there was a cigarette machine, I remember like in the main part.
Speaker 1:Yes, because I remember.
Speaker 3:For like two bucks to 225 or something we got, I remember and I miss those days.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I remember having one there. That's why I asked you about it. But yeah, I was just curious about that instant coffee. I haven't had in a while. I should get something. Just try it. I'm curious now.
Speaker 3:I remember being young, though that's how we I think well, me, I mean. I had friends that smoked before but I remember that's how I would get my cigarettes in high school from the vending machine.
Speaker 3:Yeah, from the vending machine, sure and then, until you like, all of a sudden you're like you know what I'm gonna try, and then you they're just, they don't care, they don't. If you had money, we used to go like our parents would give us like five bucks or whatever. Like you know, people be like here's five, get me a pack of cigarettes and yeah, you guys get some candy and shit or a coke, yeah, right. I loved high-spire.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they didn't give a shit, nice. No, they did not give a shit at all. In high-spire, I mean, I'm talking people who knew me and saw me grow up at this, this convenience store right down the street. They didn't give a shit. I would just ask for a pack of cigarettes, I could have been ten years old. Sure, here you go, zapp.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's that's the way it was. I'm turkey Hill was like the only one that cared.
Speaker 2:Fuck them.
Speaker 3:Turk, turkey Hill like gave a shit. But then you go into like see, in high-spire, though you guys had like the weird markets, like Joe's yeah, and also bills market.
Speaker 2:You're like fuck Rob Reiner for what he's cigarette laws his his cigarette hate.
Speaker 3:The youth need to smoke, damn it. Well, there was an amp giant to forget about it. They're like a giant, stronger.
Speaker 1:There was an amp in high-spire right.
Speaker 3:No, no, okay. I just remember you would say my dad needs a can of Kodiak.
Speaker 2:It's for my dad. He's in the car. He's parked behind you can't see the car, and then and then like don't focus on the car.
Speaker 3:Just give me the Kodiak, your other friend, and be like an pack of more borough reds.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's for my grandmother who's in the car with him? You can't see the car Best cuz the people there.
Speaker 3:I mean they were like our agent there working sure people like the 40s and 50s. They did not give a shit.
Speaker 2:Good times it was makes me smile, so high-spire had chubs and still has chubb's market, which is on rub street and by rupt Everybody else in the known universe would pronounce that street rupt. Oh, is it rupt? It's our double OP, but it was because of the hickish sound, and there is a high-spire accent, I promise you it is that the high-spire and steel accent right they call it rupt. Well, just like in Lancaster, there is a market roots Correct.
Speaker 2:Yeah but it's spelled our double OTS, which anyone in the world would call that roots. No, no, not in Lancaster County, it's roots, roots, roots. They're from Philly same saying. Yeah, yeah high-spire also had Handy market.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the one I'm thinking of handy Is that next to champs.
Speaker 2:Correct, yeah, that later became Unimart, and then it became something whatever the hell is that PM?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I was thinking a npm.
Speaker 2:I don't know the way you got a turkey hill.
Speaker 3:The turkey hill would be my stop going to school, because then I'd have to get blanched. Then I'd pick you up, yep, but I would make that that right turn and stop in there and grab.
Speaker 2:Grab my pack of smokies, then I go and then I would go to just light up. I would go to the smitties gas station there halfway through. I mean they sold anybody to, but look man back, what's.
Speaker 1:I miss those days. God damn, I miss so much simpler instant coffee.
Speaker 2:All right. Well, some savior that mrs Voorhees huh. So oddly, mrs Voorhees exhibits no fear of any killer on the loose as she tries to calm Alice. More over Mrs Voorhees sadness and lament for the recently deceased counselor soon turns to anger, and she recounts the tale that it was her son, jason, who drowned all those years ago, back in 1957, while the counselors at the time Were otherwise occupied with making sexy time. Mmm in flagrante delecto Slutton. Yeah, she's since turned. She, being mrs Voorhees, has since turned to a life of placing blame for her son's death Upon any and all who work at the camp. More over, it was she who killed all the others at the camp. Today they anticipated almost obligatory climactic chase and struggle ensues. Alice emerges as the victor by beheading mrs Voorhees with a righteous swing of a machete. That's a good movie too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, machete machete. Yeah, man that was a gnarly scene. Yeah, it was cool they slow-mode, it dude.
Speaker 2:They did and dude. She wound up like Bryce Harper and she just. Swung and it was slow and steady and she's just there, she keeps it straight and Nails it. I mean nails it, that head goes flying and I was wild although the fight was pretty beat.
Speaker 1:But we yeah they weren't too good, you know, I mean they didn't train for that. You could tell, like some of these movies they train, you know, I mean they get like you know, I thought miss movies.
Speaker 3:This person like this thought she was kind of hot.
Speaker 2:Look, I can tell you that whomever she was hot, whoever did that? And we were talking about that earlier, about the again the first person perspective and like, if you're just watching this for the first time, you might think it's crazy as Ralph, look, I thought that they did a great job like this, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Like this mrs Voorhees thing was a surprise, and in fact I'll take that a step further by Clearly exclaiming that when she rolls up in that Jeep you still didn't know you would see that it took so much for it to click that that Jeep was the Jeep that had picked up the hitchhiker very early on. That Annie right, it was supposed to be the cook and you get thrown off because Steve the perv also drives a goddamn Jeep.
Speaker 3:But did you notice he had that? He had his top down when he took off. And then the Jeep that picks up the Pretty cute top up at the top up yeah.
Speaker 2:I was like, oh sure, did trick Henry, absolutely did I. Honestly I First time watching this movie I thought it was crazy as Ralph the whole time.
Speaker 1:See, this got ruined for me because I saw I think I definitely didn't see Friday the 13th before I saw like part 3 and 4 and 5 and 6, so I saw those and then people had told me about the Friday the 13th, the original one, and always the talk was among horror buffs is like, well, he's not a Jason's, not even the killer in the first one. So it kind of it kind of got ruined before I actually even saw it. But I'd be curious to be like in In somebody's head back then the first time they saw it, like, did they know? Was it a mystery and you know?
Speaker 1:Yeah they definitely misled you a lot of times. Like you said, they did even with the snake part, where they kill the snake. They keep you guessing a guy holds the machete there for an extra couple seconds just to make you think like, hmm, could he be you know could.
Speaker 3:It was miss, for he's all along and she would have got away with it too, it weren't for those Confounded kids one for their shitty haircuts, all right.
Speaker 2:So after all of that, and not knowing what could possibly happen Next after such an eventful day, alice chooses to play it safe and isolate herself on a canoe in the middle of the lake. The night passes and as the morning dawns, she awakens to find that the police have arrived and await her on the shore of the lake. Her night of horror is over, or is it? As she readies herself for her rescue, the decomposing corpse of a young boy lurches out of the water of the lake, next to her canoe. She grabs her and pulls her into the water. I was startled, yeah. So she awakens with a start in a hospital bed, surrounded by a doctor, a nurse and a policeman. Was it all a dream?
Speaker 1:I used to read Word Up magazine. Do what was it all?
Speaker 2:the dream, so I'm sorry it up Word Up magazine pepper. After finding out that everyone else is dead, she inquires about the boy who pulled her into the lake. No evidence of any boy had been discovered by the police at the time. They had found her in the lake. This can only mean he's still there.
Speaker 3:Interesting thought that was Dave when we went to cannibals. It's like Dave. What do you know?
Speaker 1:Came out of the water.
Speaker 3:I don't know who that was scared.
Speaker 1:I couldn't get out of the water.
Speaker 2:So wait, on the fight. I got a thought. I gotta go back to this on that when, when mrs Voorhees and Alice are fighting right. Like there is just some textbook, old school, like you saw it in airplane, or you saw it maybe even in clue the slaps, oh yeah, that mrs Voorhees delivered to to Alice. Oh my god, it was like pimp, slap dude. Absolutely. This was backhand and forehand, just slap.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was pretty Like shut your mouth, yep, it's mac and shit. A couple other things I wrote down. Like back to the parts we were on, I thought it was funny, like what she did when she was barricading herself in the Cabin, the logs, yeah, like she puts the rope to tie because the door opens out, correct, and then she does that but then takes in like barricades the door but the door opens out. I guess maybe just a slow them down. I guess, you know, you get to look at it that way. I just thought that was funny. People are tripping as they're coming in.
Speaker 1:And then another thing I noticed, and I always think that people maybe take ideas from other movies or something like that, and it wasn't even that it was that close. But there was a scene where, um, she was getting chased by mrs Voorhees and she starts busting the door down and you see mrs Voorhees looking through. I'm was like Jack, yeah, eccleson and the shiny. And I'm like, oh, maybe they did that because of the shining, but this actually came out before the shiny. So the shining released May 23rd 1980. This really is May 9th 1980. So it was actually ahead of.
Speaker 2:I would love for us to do a review on the shining.
Speaker 3:That's a good movie. Yeah, that is. That's a non-stop classic, non-stop.
Speaker 2:Jack, yeah, that's a good one another.
Speaker 1:Jack Stanley Kubrick.
Speaker 2:Am I off on this, or did it seem that Alice's hair seemed shorter in the hospital scene? Yeah, that was film first or later or maybe it definitely seemed shorter than the mushroom cap Looking thing that we had seen when we first see her all happy and prissy with Perv, steve Right, steve the perv.
Speaker 3:You see a lot of that in older movies. Like, if you really pay attention because, like how we've been like since I've been doing cinema review stuff with you guys You'll see if you like what like. Or they'll show like a scene like the guys wearing like sneakers and like two minutes into him walking it's like wearing different sneakers and shit like that or the guy's dead on the train tracks, and then earlier in the movie he's like behind you guys acting stuff like that.
Speaker 2:I'm blowing yeah so, dave, you mentioned your first time watching this, and so my first time watching this was Mid to late 80s. Okay, and by now it's. It's a. By this time, when I first see it, call it 87 or 88 right, right right.
Speaker 2:I'm staying over at my one friend's house up the street, and it's just he and I. This one late night we're just watching a movie on cinemax or whatever. Fuck it, let's watch it right. So by then there had been at least one, if not two, possibly three, maybe even four sequels to this movie where Jason, all you know, is this dude in a hockey mask.
Speaker 2:That's all you know. That's all you know. So we're watching this for the first time, not seeing this dude in a hockey mask, not even thinking about just watching the movie. So it's late night and we're almost at the end of the movie and, dude, it's late like midnight plus, and then that goddamn corpse jumps out of that water. This is the first time for both of us, dude.
Speaker 2:We screamed like Little girls do absolutely screamed like little girls, woke up to dudes. Parents came out like you guys are right, yeah, yeah, like what the hell's going on out here? That's funny. Like dude. And we did not sleep that night, absolutely did not like I was scared out of my fucking mind. That's awesome.
Speaker 1:And it had that effect on you. Yeah, I'm the same way. I don't know that. I saw this even back then. I know I saw like I started maybe with part 3, 3d or whatever let's say right and I and there's so many of them that they just came out all the time. But one other note I put down here is there was like a song playing at the end when she's on the boat and it was very synthy and I like that and it reminds me of a band.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you know this band, but you maybe you do. I think Matt does team and Pala. It sounds totally like a Pala song. I'll play you some team and Pala. They're from Australia, really good band.
Speaker 3:I saw him actually a concert actually the music on this thing was weird. They had a lot of weird. It was very like Romantic II weird, yeah, budget was 550 grand man, we got to stretch that budget.
Speaker 1:Speaking of that, we should probably get into the Fun facts.
Speaker 2:Nope, yeah, I love this part the best part yeah it is fun. So, dave, you mentioned earlier about the snake. So, fun fact, the snake was real and In fact that was that snake dying on screen. That snake was killed. That's a real snake death of a snake.
Speaker 3:Did they have to say that? Do you say that in 1980 movies? No, they didn't care in 1980.
Speaker 1:I did. There was. No, there was nobody around that really care. But to take it a step further on that, I read and heard that there was actually somebody. It was a pet and that sucks, yeah that they asked the guy hey, give me your snake.
Speaker 2:And he didn't know they were gonna do that. Damn, that's some straight up pig farmer shit.
Speaker 1:I know and then according to you know facts I read on it. They said he was sobbing like on the side. But you imagine how somebody's pet and it's kind of screwed up.
Speaker 2:That's messed up again the pig farmer.
Speaker 3:Yes, calf $100,000 of that $500,000 budget was to pay him in court.
Speaker 2:Very well be. I believe it ought to pay off either him or PETA, mmm-hmm so Opening weekend this, this movie, did 10, 10 times its cost.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. Right off the bat, like almost five over five million, I guess it did. Yeah, which is good. Yeah, it was a success.
Speaker 2:The juice was worth the squeeze.
Speaker 3:How many of Friday the 13th movies have there been?
Speaker 2:With the with the name Friday the 13th associated with Jason or whatever, friday the 13th 11 12.
Speaker 3:Pretty damn close, though. And they say Jason has been to from, from Camp Crystal Lake. He's been to New York and also space. Oh, he's battled it out with Freddy Krueger, and he appeared in comics fighting with Bruce Campbell ash from the Evil Dead.
Speaker 1:Hmm, wow, how about that?
Speaker 3:cash me outside.
Speaker 2:How about that?
Speaker 1:So this one here. They filmed in New Jersey like we talked about, but then the movies after that they moved them to One was in Connecticut, then they moved them a lot to the West Coast and Canada, the one that they did in New York where Jason was in like Manhattan.
Speaker 1:It was too expensive and they were in it with American Psycho Same thing. So they did in like Vancouver, I think, like up in Canada, but this one actually was in New Jersey and that camp is still a camp. It's like a Boy Scout camp where they filmed it.
Speaker 2:Yes, correct.
Speaker 1:And what's it called? Do you have the name?
Speaker 2:I don't have the name. It is it's four syllables boo boo, something like that.
Speaker 3:Right, no, but new, something like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I read it new, but Bosco, it's called a camp no be Bosco.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, be both located in Hardwick and it's still operating today, so that's pretty wild.
Speaker 2:So the no, be both go. The. The first two stands for like Northeast. Someplace in the last two syllable stands for Boy Scouts.
Speaker 1:Oh, how about that? I didn't even catch that, it's a portmanteau of the four words.
Speaker 3:Did you guys know there was a Friday the 13th? The awakening released on Friday the 13th, 2023?. No yeah, is that the 12th? No, friday the 13th. It's a movie, the awakening 12th movie. Goddamn.
Speaker 2:Yes, that is the 12th you said 11, that is the 12th.
Speaker 3:Got it yes. He's on first and also Crystal Lake will be streaming on peacock coming in 2024. It's a movie about about that little the origin story of the he's.
Speaker 2:Curious when you said that it was filmed in.
Speaker 1:New Jersey.
Speaker 2:Was it filmed in Voorhees, New Jersey.
Speaker 1:No, for he's was like a name of, like that's on Cunningham, or somebody had knew somebody that had that last name.
Speaker 2:They took. Is that Ralph Malph's friend?
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:Pottsy. No, sean Cunningham.
Speaker 1:Yes, Sean Cunningham. Yeah well, Tom Bosley was in it.
Speaker 3:I got it on a pot Nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no Voorhees in. There is a town called Voorhees in New Jersey but there was an individual with the last name Voorhees that he pulled it from. I read it in the and I was looking over fun facts stuff, but I don't have it written down in first type down here.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna have to have you guys finish the fun facts.
Speaker 2:I can yeah, so.
Speaker 3:I'm calling off for this evening. I had a wonderful time, gentlemen. I hope you she them the peace and then the love and the hair grease and all that fun stuff. No it was. It was a blast. I appreciate it. Thank you everybody out there.
Speaker 1:Thanks for joining. Thanks, matt, look over your shoulder on the way out. I just be careful.
Speaker 3:I am, I'm scared already. Check the windows doors, bro. Yeah, peace me out.
Speaker 1:Hi. Peace later, matt. So yeah, this. Did you know that for the role of Alice Hardy, sally Field was offered apart?
Speaker 2:That would have blown that budget.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that would have been very expensive, yeah, that would have been at least a million dollar movie.
Speaker 2:Oh, fun fact. So we were talking about Voorhees Jason. So again, who ultimately becomes the Everything you know and love when it comes to Friday 13th. We don't hear shit about Jason until there's only 15 minutes left in the film. Yeah, that's, that's true, like an hour and 15 or an hour and 16 minutes goes by, and then we finally hear about Jason PS. I love that this movie is only like 90, some minutes.
Speaker 1:It's perfect. I mean how most horror movies should be. You can't drag that out for over two hours.
Speaker 2:No, not enough there. It's like what we try to do with this goddamn podcast sometimes, yeah, sometimes.
Speaker 1:So that Bill in the movie was that Harry Crosby, that's a son of Bing Crosby love Bing Crosby. Yeah, that man is awesome and they actually said now the. I think the producers or directors wouldn't really say for sure, but there's people that say that they went that route because of the Jamie Lee Curtis in Halloween tied to famous parents.
Speaker 1:They were like oh, we'll do that. I mean, there's a lot of people that want to try to, like we were talking about in the beginning. I want to tie these two together, but I don't really think they're that similar, to be honest.
Speaker 2:No and PS Jamie. Jamie Lee Curtis wasn't one of the throwaway counselors that got killed.
Speaker 1:No, no, she was Obviously important part of that movie. Yeah, yeah, oh that.
Speaker 2:You had mentioned, filming took place from X to Y, so total number of days filming took 28 days. To film 28 days. Yeah but it took 10 weeks to edit. Wow, yeah that's crazy.
Speaker 1:I guess maybe because of that oh, you know what I do know I think one of the reasons why Well, I did hear him say on that movies that made us is that he had all that finished Footage and was trying to put it together to make a movie and he's like this is sucks, like I can't. And he brought him West Craven to help. Hmm, he said, hey, can you help me? Because they were friends West Craven from, they ran on cheating all that. Then they had this composer involved and when they added the music it tied everything together Because as a whole, when he was watching is like this kind of sucks, because you couldn't really tell what parts the killer or is this just a cameraman following somebody around but adding that Soundtrack and you know that cook, cook, come on. Oh, that stuff like really made a difference and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Oh man, that was one of my fun facts.
Speaker 1:I'll go for it, yeah, one of my last fun facts.
Speaker 2:In fact, I think I might. In fact it is my last one fact, the that classic that Right right that sound is actually just Kill them, mommy. That's or kill a mommy a shortening.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's pretty wild. I I do that when I eat a hot pocket. It's too hot. I make sounds like that, very similar. I thought that's what it was nice no that's, that's exactly what that is. Did you know that, like Lou Reed, the, you know the singer, or whatever?
Speaker 2:that a blue.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he had a Property nearby and he would come by the set all the time and we kind of hang out. Yeah, he was like the adjoining property. Let me see, I'll give you one more here, let me find a good one here. So I'm like I really hit you with. Like Matt said about the jeeps, there were two used in this film and there was a 1972 CJ five and and oh, here's one that's pretty interesting. So Adrian King, it was in this meal in this film. After the film's success she was stalked by an obsessed fan and she was so like freaked out by it. She said I don't want a big role in the second one. I think she was just freaked out. I guess that you know, obviously, when you become famous like that people. What was that? Who was that one actress, that Silence of the lambs?
Speaker 2:Joey Foster sure.
Speaker 1:And somebody was after her too, right. And when they're, when that's something with the president that try to assassinate Reagan, oh that's right, you're right, you're absolutely right. Yeah, so these, when you're in these movies and a public figure like that, you know you get stalked, I guess.
Speaker 2:I forgot all about that. Yeah, that's a hell of fun fact.
Speaker 1:Yep, so I guess that's all for me, for the fun facts. I mean. This to me was a great movie. It was between this and creep show, I think.
Speaker 1:I was thinking about and we talked about it and I think this is a good one to go with because I think this is one people you know enjoy. So I guess that this is you and I. So well, you know, I'm thinking Matt would probably return this. I can't speak for him, but I'll start it off. I really like this movie. I'm not gonna pay like 90 bucks that own it, so I'm probably just gonna watch it and return it, but I'm not burning it. I think it's a good movie.
Speaker 2:I think it's good. I think that For me I would again that first time watching it, with the finding that shocker at the end, like this kid popping out right and whatever. I would want to lay this one down for a while and not want to watch it for a good long time, but I would certainly return it, definitely not burn it. But I'm not gonna overkill it and get a late fee, no, I'm not paying that money either.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's. It's definitely an iconic movie and it spawn, like we talked about, numerous sequels and merchandise. You go to the Halloween stores and that's all you know. It's still hockey mask and everything even in. Like we watched Christmas vacation. Clark comes out a hockey mask.
Speaker 2:They change.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. So it's just one of those ones that'll, I think, live on forever.
Speaker 2:It's a huge pop culture icon right, Huge.
Speaker 1:Yeah for us, dude, we came up with this. But even actually it's funny one One young kid that was at the Pucks with pros event we were just adding. Maybe some of some of you saw our pictures online. It was a hockey movie that we did. We went and checked out miracle and the one guy I know his son was there was an 11 year old and they're watching the movie and the miracle movie and he's like hey dad, why is that hockey player wearing the Jason mask?
Speaker 2:That's awesome.
Speaker 1:So for like an 11 year old who's like you know, it's still all about Jason and Friday the 13th of course it is.
Speaker 2:That's awesome yeah.
Speaker 1:I thought that was cool, but yeah, so I mean I appreciate that right now, everything, yeah, thanks to Matt for all he did and and I guess we'll be back next week with a one, not next week that we gather with a cool vintage cinema review. Don't forget to leave us that five star rating on Spotify and Apple. On Apple, leave us a written review. I see some of you have done that and it's really helping us out. Got anything else that?
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