Are you ready to revisit a scandalous affair that rocked the nation in the 90s? Join us as we explore the twisted saga of Amy Fisher and Joey Buttafuoco, a shocking liaison between a teen girl and a middle-aged auto body shop owner that quickly spiraled into a chilling tale of obsession and violence. We'll dig into the intriguing details that captivated a nation, from the seemingly innocent beginning in an auto body shop to a near-fatal end game.
Witness how a teenage girl's damaged car and a cunning plan set the stage for a scandalous relationship that would engulf two families and make headlines across America. Whether it's discussing the relevance of Joey's shop's name or reliving our memories of the scandal, we guarantee an engrossing trip down memory lane.
Fasten your seat belts as we recount the terrifying turn of events that led Amy Fisher, the 'Long Island Lolita,' to plot against Mary Jo Buttafuoco. From Amy's unhealthy obsession with Joey to her involvement in an escort service and her plan to shoot Mary Jo, we leave no stone unturned. We also shed light on Amy's infamous shooting of Mary Jo, the aftermath, and the chilling, premeditated nature of the crime. So brace yourself for a thrilling journey into the past in this Part 1 of 2.
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Are you ready to revisit a scandalous affair that rocked the nation in the 90s? Join us as we explore the twisted saga of Amy Fisher and Joey Buttafuoco, a shocking liaison between a teen girl and a middle-aged auto body shop owner that quickly spiraled into a chilling tale of obsession and violence. We'll dig into the intriguing details that captivated a nation, from the seemingly innocent beginning in an auto body shop to a near-fatal end game.
Witness how a teenage girl's damaged car and a cunning plan set the stage for a scandalous relationship that would engulf two families and make headlines across America. Whether it's discussing the relevance of Joey's shop's name or reliving our memories of the scandal, we guarantee an engrossing trip down memory lane.
Fasten your seat belts as we recount the terrifying turn of events that led Amy Fisher, the 'Long Island Lolita,' to plot against Mary Jo Buttafuoco. From Amy's unhealthy obsession with Joey to her involvement in an escort service and her plan to shoot Mary Jo, we leave no stone unturned. We also shed light on Amy's infamous shooting of Mary Jo, the aftermath, and the chilling, premeditated nature of the crime. So brace yourself for a thrilling journey into the past in this Part 1 of 2.
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https://freesound.org/people/Sami_Hiltunen/sounds/527187/ Eerie intro music
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https://freesound.org/people/Zott820/sounds/209578/ Cash register
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Thanks for tuning in to the old dirty basement. On today's episode we're covering part one of the Long Island Lolita, amy Fisher and Joey Budafuco.
Speaker 2:Oh, this takes me back. This is a nearly fatal attraction between a part time, a FIBA file and a messed up minor with daddy issues.
Speaker 3:Wow, that was good. I don't know how to follow that one. Yeah, if you can be to the complete auto body repair shop and get some things fixed for you, that's where Amy Fisher was hanging out back in the 90s. I know that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that in future physique. Yeah yeah, the gym. So we hope you're enjoying the podcast. If you are, leave that five star rating on Spotify, on Apple, five star rating and a written review helps us out and sit back, relax and enjoy part one of the Long Island Lolita.
Speaker 5:This is the old, dirty basement home to debauchery, madness, murder and mayhem. A tear filled train ride deep into the depths of the devil's den with a little bit of humor history and copious consciousness. I'm your announcer, shallow throat. Your hosts are Dave, matt and Zap.
Speaker 3:I love you, matthew McConaughey, all right all right, all right hey this is Dave, matt and Zap, and welcome to the old, dirty basement where every week we cover a true crime murder or compelling story. So sit back, relax and comprehend. Hello, hello, hello and welcome everybody to the old dirty basement. I am Matt. With me always is Dave and Zap.
Speaker 1:What's going on?
Speaker 3:How are you? Happy, lovely midday. What late, late evening early evening in a beautiful fall fall evening here.
Speaker 2:It's happy for us, but who knows when people may be listening to this? Yes, I know.
Speaker 3:It's just Pennsylvania weather at this time Make city by the sea.
Speaker 1:Yeah, could be running a marathon. Somebody Don't stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you just never know. You never know, you don't even know.
Speaker 1:You don't even know. So what do we got on tap today, fellas, we got a man we got a lot of tapping.
Speaker 3:There's a lot All sorts of tapping.
Speaker 2:We got a blast from the past that anyone our age, that is to say anyone born in, I'll say, the mid to late seventies, through, you know, early eighties.
Speaker 3:I mean, that sounds so old. I'm saying so blast from the past Like talking like this was 70s.
Speaker 2:This was something that we all knew like so well. As I was doing the write up for this, my God, I was blown away by just this the whirlwind of memories that came back when I'm going through this.
Speaker 1:It could have been a girl we went to school with. Could have been who knows I mean right around our age.
Speaker 2:But a little bit older a little bit older but damn sexy nonetheless. But nonetheless, today we are talking about Amy Fisher and Joey. But a fooco.
Speaker 3:We hear Joey, but a fooco we hear fun fact.
Speaker 1:Oh whoa, already already man drum roll please, but a fooco in Italian fire thrower.
Speaker 2:Wow, yeah, you just blew my mind dude, did you just make that up?
Speaker 3:Is that is that real?
Speaker 2:No, it's legit. This is the file. Start up, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yo, this is but a fooco over here. Fire thrower, there it is.
Speaker 2:I'm the, but a fooco, twisted, but a fooco.
Speaker 3:I thought you didn't want to be the but a fooco of that joke.
Speaker 1:Oh, man yeah, wow, I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 3:Oh baby, we're hot tonight, Fire throw.
Speaker 2:That's a fire.
Speaker 1:I'm the fire tonight. That's directly from his daughter on a 2020 special Whoa yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, how they made it to 2020. You know, you made it in life. If you're on, a 2020 special.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, right, it's even bigger than 60 minutes. For sure, yeah, but before we get into this, I think Matt had a quick mail bag item you wanted to throw in right Straight from the mail sack From the mail, sack of, but a fooco Throw in fire.
Speaker 3:Actually, somebody that was that was fired. This weekend my wife and I went to see a band that she liked, but he's Andrew McMahon plays you play for, like Jack's Mannequin, something corporate. She was into them and she was in college but they had a band opening for him. It was called the Wilder Miss. Wilder Miss, not Wilder Ness. Okay.
Speaker 3:But if you look them up, they got a couple cool videos. It's a three piece band. They got a guitarist, drummer and singer, keyboard ascent. They were really cool. I just want to give them a shout out. If you guys you know hear about them, Wilder Miss, check them out. They were pretty hype.
Speaker 1:Cool, cool, yeah, appreciate that. I did check them out on Spotify. I like what I heard and, yeah, she's quite a performer.
Speaker 3:Like I don't even know her name. I'm sorry for that. I should have looked that up. But, wilder Miss, I'm going to give a shout out to the whole band.
Speaker 2:Let's see if that's what it is. You know it's not unlike REM. So with REM, back in the day I'll take you all back. Let's all jump in the DeLorean. It will go back in time. So back in the day you could buy an album or a cassette and when you would open up either, especially a cassette, you could unwrap all of the paper in there. You'd have all the lyrics for all of the songs, Right?
Speaker 2:Michael Stipe, the singer, of REM was adamant about never, ever, ever, ever ever including the lyrics in their jackets of those those sleeves in their CDs, cassettes or albums, Even asked why. His answer was the same every time. Well, we don't include the notes to the songs. We don't include the beats to to to the songs. So why would my lyrics make it and the other guy's stuff wouldn't? So this is done as a band effort and we're going to keep the lyrics off of the sleeves.
Speaker 1:Nice, if we all can't be in, then none of us. There it is.
Speaker 3:Wilder Miss originally from Denver, Colorado, the Broncos.
Speaker 1:The Broncos are on a winning streak.
Speaker 3:Yeah, now they're out of. Yeah, four in a row. Yeah, the city by the bay?
Speaker 2:Yes, is that right?
Speaker 3:When the lights go down in that city, john Denver.
Speaker 1:Speaking of cities by the bay, I think this story today was near near a bay.
Speaker 2:It was near a bay and not the Bay of Biscay.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Risky Ooh, the Bay of Biscay. It was risky, all right. Thanks for bringing us back on track. So today we are talking about Amy Fisher and Joey Butifuco. So let's start with who is Amy Fisher? Well, this young lady was born on August 21st 1974. Yeah, that's my wheelhouse, right there, Dude, look that's just nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3:No, that's right in our range, yep.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's like the shit she would be, you know, two years ahead of us.
Speaker 1:I was going to say would have been in senior when we were sophomores.
Speaker 3:Yep, that's just reverse for most of us.
Speaker 1:Right, right, right, wouldn't be the other way around.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, they dating a lot of sophomores. That's it, that's it.
Speaker 2:That's true, and she's a graduate. And Roseanne Fisher.
Speaker 3:Which you could tell she had that only child syndrome. Absolutely that whole free spirit, to put it politely.
Speaker 2:And well and allowed to get away with so much. Yes, to an extent. To an extent, okay, because according to Amy, her father was a ruthless disciplinarian to the point of her being just terrified of him. I guess I don't know.
Speaker 3:Allegedly.
Speaker 2:Allegedly, according to her. So, but I can dig that to the. I mean, we've seen it before. So hell with the pig guy, with the pig farmer, with a number of other people, like when these kids oh, ed Gein, when these kids would mess up, their parents would beat the shit out of them, right, I mean, beat the shit out of them. That's a beating, that's a paddling. Yep. Well, not only did she allege that ruthless disciplinarian aspect of her father, she had also alleged that she suffered sexual abuse repeatedly at a young age from a family member not her father.
Speaker 3:So was never said family member, it was just repeated.
Speaker 2:sexual abuse from someone From a family member, be it an uncle, be it a cousin, be it a who knows, grandpa.
Speaker 1:And I think they said those ages were like three to six when that happened. There was another occurrence when she was like 12. There was somebody doing work in the house like a construction work.
Speaker 3:I think that's something I heard about.
Speaker 1:And yeah, he, he basically assaulted her.
Speaker 2:I did, I did hear that or I'm sorry I read that Right he was in bed, or he took her into the bed or did something with her in the bed.
Speaker 1:Right, I was like, yeah, something went down, some kind of an assault, you know but she never told her parents about it.
Speaker 1:Well, the thing was that she had said I think she had said or maybe it was a psychiatrist that was talking about it is that, being at that young age of three to six, when the initial stuff has happened with that family member, that she almost thought, like at 12, it was her fault. Then, because of the things that happened to her as a three, like as a three to six year old, it was almost like, oh, I'm not going to tell anybody because it was my fault, one of those she felt guilt, she felt it happening Right, right, right.
Speaker 1:So we weren't there. I don't know.
Speaker 2:Well, I am no psychiatrist or psychologist, dare I say, I'm no scientist of any nature.
Speaker 1:Me neither.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I'll just pretend that makes sense. Right, yeah, right.
Speaker 3:But again, like like we talked about so many times, is that a lot of these people end up certain ways because certain things happen and they're not caught early enough, or they go through life just as you know. That's cool, whatever. Right. Not to say that the sexual assault was anything was her fault. No. But yeah, it usually changes people.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean. So that's a thing? That's definitely a thing, and in fact so. During she had, as her teenage years started going on, she had had a number of shall we call them relationships with the opposite sex. Like, look, not for nothing, this girl was getting around. Right. She was absolutely getting around, so much so that, at one point, amy had gotten pregnant and went on to have an abortion.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow, I didn't know about that one. I didn't hear that either, was that?
Speaker 2:an at home no-transcript. Oh, you're saying like clothes hanger, something like that, I'm guessing.
Speaker 1:I want it for parents or a wear. You know I can't.
Speaker 3:It might have been like somebody older, too, that paid or took care of it Like fast on yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Put it into being a brother that helped her out. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, that's a thing. That's a thing, and that's out of the mouth of Amy Fisher. Now, this woman has said a lot, so who's to say? Right. Yes, this is like another.
Speaker 3:Ted Bundy, so I had to turn my hat backwards. I kept bumping the microphone. Sorry, all right, back in it.
Speaker 2:Back in it to win it. So after, as her teenage years are rolling on, then came Joey.
Speaker 3:Can we just call him but a fooco? I just like saying you can call him whatever you want.
Speaker 2:But a fooco, but it's a person that's called fire thrower Fire thrower Twisted, fire thrower Twisted, but a fooco. So I'm curious, I'm actually curious, how did this guy get away without having a nickname? Because I mean he's like this makeshift, want to be mafioso kind of guy Like how do you not have like you know, I think?
Speaker 3:but a fooco is like a but a fooco.
Speaker 2:Fingers like Joey the finger, but a fooco.
Speaker 1:Or whatever, or like quarters.
Speaker 3:I like that Joey fingers, but a fooco.
Speaker 1:Fingers, but a fooco that came much later, much, much later. Or wrenches or something like that.
Speaker 2:Joey wrenches. Yeah, Joey wrenches. I like that yeah.
Speaker 1:Joey blowtorch, joey blowtorch, whatever.
Speaker 3:Anyway, this poor asshole Joey B would have just worked.
Speaker 2:Yeah, joey B, just like PDG, but he didn't get a. Or Kenny G oh, very underrated musician, by the way.
Speaker 3:He is. He is Steve Winwood also Concur. I'm a big Steve Winwood. Steve Winwood crushes it Crushes it.
Speaker 1:What was his band? When was he in a band before?
Speaker 2:He started out at the age of I want to say it's like 16, possibly 17. But he was in the name of the. Whatever the band was, it did. Give me some lovin'.
Speaker 3:Give me, give me some lovin', give me some lovin'.
Speaker 2:So he was singing in that, but he was a teenager. Like a backup. He was it. No, he was the singer of that song, and he was a teenager at the time, but then he went on to be Steve Winwood.
Speaker 3:We should have somebody mail back that for us, if anybody's out there in the music.
Speaker 1:I like that. Is he the higher love guy?
Speaker 3:Yeah, bring me a higher love guy Valerie. Yeah, he's pretty good, crushes it All right.
Speaker 2:Back to the Butterfucko, Back to the Firethrower. It all started at the Complete Auto Body Repair Shop in Baldwin.
Speaker 3:New York. Do you have like a background, like wrenches and stuff I can do?
Speaker 1:that OK, drills on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that'd be awesome.
Speaker 3:Hey Joey grab me the three ace. Hey.
Speaker 2:Yeah, grab me that socket.
Speaker 1:Hey, give me that metric one. Yeah yeah, yeah, the fucking.
Speaker 3:European car Drives these BMW pieces. This is the fucking Chinese. I need the metrics. Yeah, we got that.
Speaker 2:That sounds good, they're on the metrics, so it's late 1990. We were all just in our freshman year of high school. That's a great year, mm-hmm. Amy Fisher, 16 years old at the time, accompanied by her parents when they took their car there for repair. While there, Amy met the owner, Joey Butterfucko. I wonder if she took a shine to him, Because it was in late May 1991, less than six months later, Amy accidentally damaged her own car's side mirror while pulling out of her parents' garage.
Speaker 3:Wait accidentally.
Speaker 2:This was, for all intent and purpose, in an accident. Ok, who's she going to call? Of course, the only repair guy she knows. Right Joey Wrenches Yep. So she drove her car down there and after a quick estimate by the fine folks at Complete Autobody Repair Shop, Amy realized she couldn't afford the repairs.
Speaker 3:What to do? What to do, what to do? Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:Understand that she's now in a real bind. Like it's one thing for any one of us and you know we're teenagers, we're in high school driving a car Like of course I'm going to get scratches and dents and bullshit and who gives a shit. But in Amy's case, such carelessness with her car would send that ruthless disciplinarian of a father of hers into a frenzy if he were to find out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I had read that she had a like, that the dad had told Joey basically like hey, I got her this car and whenever she brings it in, just fix it.
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 1:Basically it was like a line of credit, almost like Another only child thing Like she's just got her permit and she's driving this car. She's probably going to be like they knew. Yeah. But I heard two reports. One said it was a Dodge Daytona, which I think it is because that's how they depicted it in one movie we'll talk about, and another source at Dodge Dakota, which would be a pickup truck, right, but it was white.
Speaker 3:I don't see, I don't see Amy Fisher driving a pickup truck To be clear.
Speaker 2:I don't see a girl in Long Island. Yeah, and a pickup Driving a pickup truck and only child living in Long Island Driving a pickup truck.
Speaker 3:If you said like you know Lancaster or someone you know, or like Montana, montana, yeah, texas, that makes sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, probably wouldn't be a but a Foucault body shop.
Speaker 3:No in Montana, but I'm sure there's a complete auto body repair. Yeah, that's kind of original name.
Speaker 1:That looks like a chain name. Like you know, I'm saying that might just complete auto body repair shop. Sounds like a chain. Like but a Foucault should have been like but a Foucault's body shots.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. You would say that now it is interesting. I've talked to countless entrepreneurs over my years and there is a rule of thumb that if you're willing to I mean really take pride in your work and the service or products you provide, you put your name on it. Mm, hmm.
Speaker 2:If you're afraid or shady or worried or a mobster, but not necessarily that. But if you're not sure about what you're putting out and you don't or you don't, you put out a product or service that you don't necessarily want other people knowing about. You want to fly on the radar, you want to fly into the radar, then you don't put your name on it.
Speaker 1:I make sense and you don't want to broadcast to the neighbor.
Speaker 2:That's correct, okay, I can?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't look at it that way, right, I was just thinking that's kind of a generic name. You know, I would think it would be.
Speaker 3:I think they made a generic so they can get any kind of car come in.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:We fix everything. We're complete yeah.
Speaker 1:Somebody could be like I don't want these Italians working on my car, you know if they know the name. You need some tires.
Speaker 3:There's complete auto body repair.
Speaker 1:Right, they do it all, mm.
Speaker 2:hmm, well, yes, they do Never fear. Savvy old Joey Butifuco told her to tell her father that her car had been sideswiped this way. You know it's not her fault, it's not her fault Insurance will take care of it Not a big deal. So sure enough, amy told her father that concocted story. She and her father went to Joey's shop the next day for an estimate. Now old Amy, smitten by Joey's thoughtful treatment of her father and his obvious machismo, amy took a liking to Joey.
Speaker 3:Well it's like he like uh. He said Yo watch your mouth, I'll fix it. So Joey said yeah, he's like what you doing here talking to her like that she's just a kid. Yeah, leave her alone, we're going to fix it. Hey, just leave alone, guy Come on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, leave it alone because I, because I want to talk to her. Yeah, what's your number there?
Speaker 3:sweetheart Mm hmm.
Speaker 2:Well, she would soon thereafter incur subtle damage to her car's mirrors several times on purpose in order to give her reason to visit his body shop. This is just basically like every other week. Oh shit, I hit, hey Joey, I messed up my mirror again pulling out of the garage. No, no, no, no, no, can you fix my mirror, or whatever.
Speaker 3:Yeah, let me pull that as something else.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, easy, easy. So on July 2nd 1991, while Amy was having a stereo installed in her car at Joey's shop, joey drove her back to her parents' house where the two proceeded to consummate their affair, ultimately giving in to their throbbing carnal urges. You mean the sexy time you know it. Look, I can tell you that her car would be the only thing pulling out of Amy's garage that day.
Speaker 1:Oh, my goodness, yeah, I was thinking about that on.
Speaker 2:That's reactions are fantastic. This is a great dramatic event here. This girl's just banging this old dude. Wasn't that old, though they was 38, 37, something like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's not ancient, she was 20 years her senior. Yeah, that happened in the 1800s all the time.
Speaker 1:Sure, back then it wasn't as big of a deal. But I was thinking about, like in the movie they depict, the Alessandro Milano movie, which I watched a little bit of it.
Speaker 3:She works with a lot of Italians. That's why they put her in there.
Speaker 1:But I thought she did great in it. Yeah, she was really good she looked real good, but it was funny the car. Every time it was just more fucked up. Every time you gotta see this car, how wrecked it was. The last time she took it there looked total and it was also to remember that movie.
Speaker 3:She would go in there all the time and all of his buddies like, hey, joey, she's here again, come on, come on, we got all the stuff to do.
Speaker 2:They get all mad at him Keep it in your pants, Joey.
Speaker 3:They knew what was going on.
Speaker 2:Joey. Joey, I'm so sorry. I have to call again, joey.
Speaker 1:So you saw a little bit of it too, yeah.
Speaker 3:I remember I saw it when it was playing on TV. It was like one of those. It came in three parts.
Speaker 1:Well, I remember back then but I didn't remember any of it. I had to go like just watch a couple of minutes of it to get refreshed and stuff, but when would you find this YouTube?
Speaker 3:Yeah you need to, holy shit. There, you go, the miracle is the end. The internet has everything.
Speaker 1:I mean it had that early 90s. It came out in 93.
Speaker 2:This the movie came out a year after it all went down.
Speaker 1:It happened quick, holy shit. Yeah, we'll have a lot of cool stuff at the end of this talk about it.
Speaker 2:We better get there then, Although I can just imagine this whole conversation and everything going on with her and where they're located. So one of my an endearing and just awesome movie for me is my Cousin Vinny. I love that movie so. I gotta believe that this Amy Chick sounds like.
Speaker 3:Yeah, a little. Mercer Tomei, Mercer Tomei yeah, a little bit, I just gotta believe it. But if you see this, watch it on YouTube. But Alyssa Milano's like portrayal of the Amy Fisher type accent stuff is, oh, that's great, it's over the top. So like everybody's kind of over the top on it, which is really good.
Speaker 1:If you go on YouTube, look up Casualties of love Okay, casualties of love with Alyssa Milano and you'll, it's all on there. Yeah, it's well worth it, and I wonder what kind of car stereo she was getting put in there back in the day, I thought of you immediately.
Speaker 2:What a process.
Speaker 3:What did her mom and dad do?
Speaker 2:Well, in Rosanne, her dad was fully employed as a disciplinarian and a terrorizer of his daughter. No, I have no idea. I have no idea.
Speaker 1:Whatever it was, whatever profession, both parents did the same thing, and I forget if it was like architect or something like. There was something that they did the profession and it was both the same.
Speaker 3:Well, I think she was pretty. She was pretty middle class, I mean, I think they both had Well, they had decent jobs, plus they're living in Long Island, I think they were doing.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, they got her that dodge the tone. It was hers. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:But it's just the one kid, that's what I mean. Like did she just go to her parents saying you know, I need this, I need a car stereo now I need so complete auto body repair shop does car stereos they're doing everything.
Speaker 1:It's complete man. It does it all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's the first word in their name. Complete.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:They could have called it completely Joey's.
Speaker 1:Yeah, completely Joey's.
Speaker 2:Or Joey's complete, but no, it's the complete auto body. Now, however, it is auto body repair shop. So they to Matt's point. They are specializing in what they're saying, they're doing.
Speaker 1:Could have been fire thrower auto shop. That sounds like something Kind of undercover, but it's still his name.
Speaker 3:Hell yeah, I was just trying to get. That's why I asked what her parents did. I was just trying to get a spectrum of how spoiled she was.
Speaker 1:Mailbag, that yeah, we need.
Speaker 3:I'm going to find out their employee Nice.
Speaker 2:All right. Well, indeed, it was considered an affair between these two because Joey was a married man. Old Joey was married to married Joe, that's right.
Speaker 3:Joey, that's right. That's later on in life.
Speaker 2:Mary Joe Butterfoucault made a name Connery.
Speaker 3:These two also had two kids together, so they were Irish, italian I'm waiting for Connery. Thank you. I thought, for sure I couldn't hold on to that. Okay, so later.
Speaker 2:Well, these two love birds met in high school, that is, joey and Mary Joe, and they got married in 1990. I'm sorry, whoa, going forward there. It was 1977, only a few years after they had graduated high school.
Speaker 3:Okay, so that shows how feeling a little older now because, yeah, we were born at around that time. Around that time 76, 77. Sure.
Speaker 1:These people were like they would be probably too young to have kids our age. You know what I mean, but their kids at that time were probably when we were teenagers. We're like eight, nine years old or whatever. There you go, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:There you go Well over the course of Joey's and Amy's affair. Old Joey would often tell Amy how unhappy he was in his marriage, which is that's the thing you got to make that. You know that, goomar. You got to make her feel like important, give her reason to be there. It's like, oh well, here's why you're here, because I'm upset with her.
Speaker 1:I'm confiding in you.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 3:That's right, but he didn't need to pull all that game, I mean she was no that's the thing. He already had it. She was like 27 years younger than him.
Speaker 2:So in that it's interesting in that confiding that he was doing in her, that's called pillow talk. Doing with her Right.
Speaker 3:Confiding in her, In her yeah.
Speaker 2:Pretty much.
Speaker 3:Amongst other things in her.
Speaker 2:Amongst other things in her Right, so she was equally confiding in him.
Speaker 1:I wonder if she went home with, like Greece all over. You know what I mean. Like being here, you know what I'm saying. Like walks in the door, you know you go in the door and you're parents Like what do you got?
Speaker 3:Greece everywhere, greece everywhere. And why all Greece stuff?
Speaker 2:So you watch, you see movies, writing some doodle. Come home and he'll have like lipstick on this cheek or some shit.
Speaker 3:She would have like a thumb grease print on her cheek or some shit on her butt, that's another thing too Like women must have wore a lot of lipstick back in the day because that was like a like, a tell tale, like if men would come home with lipstick on the collar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Would like everybody's neck and back in the 70s and 80s.
Speaker 2:Watch a. That's an easy answer. Watch Goodfellas and watch when all the chicks get together as oh yeah, as what's your name?
Speaker 3:Makeup.
Speaker 1:Is entering the scene as Ray.
Speaker 2:Leode's wife is entering the scene and she meets all of these chicks and they're doing each other's hair Makeup, makeup, makeup, makeup and polyester suits Correct yeah. They wore. They wore pants suits, pants suits. Yeah, exactly that scene Makeup Shit galore.
Speaker 1:I love that I get it.
Speaker 3:I get it, dude, that was always funny. I was smelling like a woman's perfume or something, I don't know she said she's coming home smelling like gasoline.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a yeah.
Speaker 1:That glitter will get you too the glitter, yeah.
Speaker 2:Stripper dust, yeah, yeah. Gotta watch that For sure. Well, at one point, desperate for money necessary to make car payments, in September 1991 Joey suggested to Amy that she take employ with the Abba escort service.
Speaker 1:Like the band that, just like the band, she's a dancing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's an escort like escort for all the right reasons.
Speaker 1:It's in one of the lyrics, right yeah in the Abba song. Wait dancing queen only 17.
Speaker 2:Oh, there's another one, yeah, we gotta get a Hava poster wait, that's a Kip Wenger song, yeah it is get where?
Speaker 3:god damn it, oh look we got to get Abba, get the basement six degrees of Kip Wenger.
Speaker 1:We will get down Kip Wenger.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah well, thank you for that interlude, matt. You're welcome. Thank you. Despite working as a prostitute, she was now making substantial amounts of money. Well, wait a second. What do you think? An escort is back in the hell even today?
Speaker 3:I'm just saying like an escort service, like all the right reasons and Abba escort service.
Speaker 2:Yeah, escort, that means escort me here. Pull my pants down, I'll give you money.
Speaker 3:It's okay. I mean, we need the money yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, the plot thickens between these two. As the relationship went on, amy became obsessed with Joey, like her life Revolved around Joey. She abandoning our friends, distance herself from her family, like all of that shit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they show in the Alyssa Milano one. Also there's one with Drew Barrymore.
Speaker 1:Yes, the Drew Barrymore.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but um, she, she would just not leave him alone, like his wife would be there at the, at the shop, complete order repair shop. She just come in and say, joey, I need to talk to you, and stuff like that. And like you know the wife's feeling, it's like wait what? Like who's this, who's this little girl that needs, you know so much attention right away. And she was just, she was just like straight out forward with it.
Speaker 2:I think there was a bad. There was a point I had seen at some somewhere that she had Pretended to go selling candy or cookies door-to-door. Yes or some shit and a candy sale. Yeah, but she could be close to the address, like in that neighborhood Watching Mary Jo.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's another story behind that will come up. Oh man, we got a lot to lot to cover here, man.
Speaker 3:The gunshot oh yeah, we'll get that.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, oh yeah, definitely, don't forget that. Yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, all right. So that obsession continued to grow and grow, and in November 1991, not but a few months after she had joined the escort slash prostitute service business, amy presented Joey with an ultimatum it was either her or his wife. Well, Joey chose his wife.
Speaker 1:I had read and heard that he kind of pushed her into that, throwing the escort service like to try to like get rid of her. Yeah, maybe, like you know what I mean, that he so I mean this girl so young and naive, you know she didn't put two and two together, yeah, trying to get rid of me or whatever like that. So, and that's I mean, that makes sense.
Speaker 2:Look you need money, the easiest way you can make money. You're sitting on a million dollars. Why don't you go make some money off of it. And so she did. And then what? When she would come let's say when she would come home I was gonna say come home. But when they would get together again, all Joey would have to say well, no, I don't want to be with you. You just had like a dozen cocks inside you. What do I want to do? Right, yeah, what guy would do that if they wanted?
Speaker 1:you know, I mean like, if you want to.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's a senator. I think there's another thing coming up to where you can tell he's trying to like pulling her off.
Speaker 1:I'm as I'm, done with you and this and that, but that company that she went to she lied and got like a fake ID. Yeah. I think you had to be 21. I don't know, I don't know how that now.
Speaker 3:She was 18 when she went in.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think she was 18 yet.
Speaker 2:This whole thing went down. She was 16 or 17. Yeah she was less than 18. She was 17.
Speaker 3:I was trying to say she's only 17.
Speaker 2:Sure you were.
Speaker 1:It all comes back to keep trying to try not to but an escort service, a company like that, is that legit on the books? Or they just kind of say quote on class and get you guys joking about massage service.
Speaker 3:That's what?
Speaker 1:yeah, that's escorted escort service can operate as an actual escort service. They just, they just don't talk about the sexy, the sexy time to be clear.
Speaker 2:There is nothing wrong with owning or working at an escort service. Those things exist. There are people out there, men and women, who are single or maybe they aren't single, but they need a particular person for this particular role. I'm going to a fancy party and I need a fancy lady.
Speaker 1:I need an escort.
Speaker 2:I need somebody to come with me. I can't let everybody know that I'm a bachelor or that I'm a spinster or that I'm, you know, some old mate. I need this, I need to, you just want somebody nice on your shoulder. Conversely, maybe I just want to pay for somebody's company. Hey, I like this movie, but I like it a lot more when somebody's with to laugh with or to cry with.
Speaker 1:I wonder what percentage of the clientele is actually like that, like you're saying, if it's like 5050 or 8020 or 20, any of the sexy stuff that happens that has should have nothing to do with that's on her own time, correct with the madam or the whomever that's one of the most, to give a couple bucks for her hanging out with them. Off the menu type thing.
Speaker 2:So a friend of mine is a huge fan of prostitutes? Well, yes, of massage of massage of the oriental variety the sensual massage. The sensual massage. Okay, so he will go to these oriental places to get massages? I think it's Asian, well, oriental is a rug of the orient.
Speaker 3:Well, From the orient there from the orient.
Speaker 1:Does he play for the Browns quarterback?
Speaker 2:Well, he might, but either way, oriental or Asian, which I guess includes Russian, that's Mongolian, but includes Russian, your Mongolian.
Speaker 3:No, the Mongolians they're right above in Asia.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay. We're going to go over geography after this. But that all of that not withstanding, he goes to these washy washy's for the bro dry, if you name me but he knows how this works. Yeah, and it's, it's. There are easy ways that you just hit a couple of keywords and you're just yeah you're taking you back to where you need to be. It's going to be that happy ending. Okay, washy, washy.
Speaker 3:Like do you like, when you go to these places there, like a certain code? Does he know like I need him to call in a?
Speaker 1:row dry. I think when you're knocking shut off the table, you know what I mean. When you're just turning in, you know I'm trying to say, yeah, it's kind of like all right. Well, I don't think you turn over.
Speaker 2:According to him, there's a subtlety of Q&A that goes back and forth.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm saying. There has to be a word or some sort of sign or code, or you know. Would you mind lighting candle number three?
Speaker 2:The first sign is getting an erection. Yeah. Okay, the second sign is them relieving you of the erection Yep, but there is of course no, there is talk drop, that's right.
Speaker 1:Second sign is the $100 bill dropping out of your. Oh, where'd that come from? Oh, you don't have a pocket.
Speaker 3:That's what I mean.
Speaker 1:Where's it dropping out of? Yeah, excuse me.
Speaker 3:Between your cheeks. I got a little but a fucco. Oh yeah, I think what you did there, thank you.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's right. So Joey said you know what I'm done with you. I don't want you, I want my wife, so what? A loser.
Speaker 2:No, that's sad. Saddened as much as she was shocked, Amy ended the relationship. Oh wow, Amy said fuck off. Yep, you know what? You're a dirty old piece of shit. Man. I'm done with you. I've wasted my time with you, I'm gonna. You know, I'm done. I can get my own. 28 year old, that's right, 38 year old, at least 10 years younger than you. Oh, but that sweet, sweet. But a fucco was a hard habit to break, despite since engaged. That's a lyric.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, such a hard habit to break.
Speaker 2:Chicago break yes, that's all right Peter Sotera sings that's right. God bless his silky voice, despite since engaging in a relationship with another man, paul Makley, who co-owned a gym called future physique.
Speaker 3:It's almost as good as complete auto body repair.
Speaker 2:Damn future physique. Okay, so now wait a second. Back to that. If you own a gym, you're not necessarily going to call it, you know, like Zaps gym or Joey's gym or whatever.
Speaker 1:So what's the smoking section?
Speaker 3:That's right, they have ashtrays on the workout equipment. Hell yeah, like what's it? That's an ashtray.
Speaker 2:That's a zip.
Speaker 3:Oh, there's ashtrays on the dumbbells Each of them Rolled up a pack of cigarettes in your workout sleeve.
Speaker 2:Awesome, holy shit, that's hilarious.
Speaker 3:Hey, you mind spot.
Speaker 2:Hey, your national. I only got one hand free.
Speaker 3:Where will Italians hanging out there? I don't know.
Speaker 2:All right, so okay, so back to future physique yeah. So she's slapping it with this dude from future physique who, if you've seen his picture like it's a it's a picture he looks like, so office space Okay, he looks like the neighbor, the next door neighbor that long hair dude, the mullet looking yeah. Yeah, he looks exactly and I mean exactly like that.
Speaker 1:What's he say to Peter? Oh God, hey, peter turn on this channel Peter.
Speaker 2:That's right, he's like check out the tips on it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I guess they were doing a like a breast exam.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. What would you do with a million dollars? Two chicks at the same time.
Speaker 3:That's him All right.
Speaker 2:So, despite her, despite Amy being with this, paul Makley dude, amy and Joey reunited in January of 1992 and rekindled their affair so that their little breakup lasted maybe two, three months.
Speaker 1:That was it, that's it. So she was with the gym guy in between all that, correct, okay.
Speaker 2:And then Amy picked her up at the escort service, for all the right reasons.
Speaker 3:So next next guy she's going to date like like a laundry dude guy that was a laundry mat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, crystal, clean laundry yeah, then maybe like a hairstylist Bright white laundry. Yeah, bright white laundry.
Speaker 2:And still again. She couldn't give up that Joey. Amy wanted that Joey all to herself, and her jealousy and hate for Mary Jo Budafuco grew to its boiling point.
Speaker 2:She devised a plan All by herself no In fact in fact, it was during a cut in color at her hairdresser's beauty parlor On May 13th 1992, we were just about to finish our sophomore year of high school. Yeah, amy had a revelation she was going to kill Mary Jo Budafuco. Now I guess this came after her and her hairdresser was telling her like oh man, there's some chick that's messing around with my boyfriend. And God, I, just I want to kill her, or I want to scare the shit out of her, to scare her off. You know, stop banging my boyfriend.
Speaker 3:My boyfriend yeah. Yeah, all this time too, she was like driving by the house, like sneaking through the backyard, stalking, right yeah, doing all kinds of stalking.
Speaker 1:What are your thoughts on whether or not there's conflict in reports? Of course they're both going to say separate things. It's over with now. So it's not like you're getting in trouble for it anymore. But she said he put it in her head. Hey, I wish I could get rid of my boyfriend. Yeah, he did put it in her right.
Speaker 1:No, he was like it's till death, do you part. And if the death part happens earlier, like those kind of lines and stuff like that. Suggestions Suggestive stuff. She said that he was saying to her like, like, reading up on this, did you come across anything that would say one way or another? Of course he denies it. Or I should say what are your thoughts on it? You think he had any?
Speaker 2:Well, I'm giving away a spoiler, because I read some stuff later on.
Speaker 1:Okay, then we'll see.
Speaker 2:I don't want to blow it, but she will.
Speaker 3:Yeah, right, you know.
Speaker 2:Oh my.
Speaker 1:Yeah, balloon knot, balloon knot. You know what that is.
Speaker 3:Isn't that from Stern?
Speaker 1:George, the guy yeah it's a guy Sulu yeah so.
Speaker 3:I can't even do it.
Speaker 2:Go ahead. Amy asked her hairdresser as to where she could procure a gun. Her hairdresser suggested she contact Peter Gujenti, a local upstanding citizen known to his friends as PDG.
Speaker 3:Hmm, See that's like Joey B. Yeah, pdg, yeah, why not?
Speaker 2:PDG. Allie G. Yeah, Kenny G. Yeah, I think you see the Gs man. According to Amy, she shared her thoughts with Joey, who in turn instructed her how to do it. There, it is Okay. That was it, she said.
Speaker 1:Hey man look.
Speaker 2:I was just talking with my hairdresser. She was doing my makeup cutting color. Whatever. I got this idea. I'm going to kill your wife. Yeah, we were made in the church. If you kill, it.
Speaker 3:it's okay, we can get together. Apparently, joey instructed her how to do it.
Speaker 2:It was real quick and easy Just show up at the house. According to her, Joey was just a little bit of a mess. And then, according to her, Joey said, just show up at the house and just shoot repeatedly as soon as she answers the door.
Speaker 1:That's according to Amy. Yeah, that's what? Yeah, I just wonder. I mean, I guess we'll never know. We'll both deny it, you will, you will know no.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, and then there's Joey's side.
Speaker 1:According to Joey she was lying Right. According to Joey early on. I just know her dad. He would say I never had any sex with her.
Speaker 3:What are you talking about, when I don't teach you I front According to Joey.
Speaker 1:According to Joey, yeah, that was according to Jim.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, not to be confused with my two dads. No. Which this could have been Paul Reiser. Yeah, For real. Yeah, I mean, look, not for nothing. Joey was probably her dad's age.
Speaker 1:A little younger, yeah, maybe a little older. I would think you think older If she's 17,. Well, he could have had her at 20.
Speaker 2:He was, she was 17. Now, that's at the end. At the end, still, at this point, she's 16. So, yeah, at this point she's 16. She's going on 17. Joey was younger than her dad, but Joey was 20 years her senior.
Speaker 3:Right, yeah, he was 38 when she was 16. So 37, whatever yeah, so.
Speaker 2:I mean, people have had kids at 21 years old. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Absolutely no, 100%, but I'm maybe.
Speaker 1:The norm usually is like just the norm that you normally see like to have a kid that age. You're usually in your late 40s. Usually you have your kid around, but there are people no definitely to have him at 20, 21.
Speaker 3:Mid to late 20s we had kids. We went to school. Yeah, 15, 16.
Speaker 1:There was girls pregnant in our school, like 10th grade right Babies, was there a girl? Pregnant in our school Like 10th or 11th. It was at least 11th grade At least 11th we had one Was that 11th.
Speaker 2:Or was that 12th? I think that was. There was one in 12th, but the one in 12th came after the one in 11th. I'm almost positive, or did she come first?
Speaker 1:You think about that? That baby, Did she? That baby's about 30 years old.
Speaker 3:Wow we're old.
Speaker 1:Approaching 30, yeah.
Speaker 2:Legal though. So we can say I wonder if she's hot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, or him Nice.
Speaker 2:Both attractive. I bet oh shit, I guess you're right. It could be a dude. I think she had a daughter though.
Speaker 1:Well, the parents were attractive, so yeah. I'm sure it turned out good looking.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was handsome and she was hot.
Speaker 3:Who's out there in Radio Land narrowing this one down?
Speaker 2:Flip it through your book pages, is that right? All right. So with all of that in her head again on me. On May 19th 1992, amy arrived at Butterfuckos house with a T-shirt, a 25 caliber handgun and the intent of breaking up Joey's marriage.
Speaker 3:Now, what did she pay for?
Speaker 2:that.
Speaker 3:A 25 cow.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I mean, she got it from PDG and a guy named PDG is probably doing this on the slide.
Speaker 1:I heard a number of $800.
Speaker 3:God damn for a 25 caliber In the 90s. Well, also it's hot, sure, yeah.
Speaker 2:So you're paying. Did you guys see a picture of the pistol? That thing's cool as shit. It's small. Yeah, it's a little as hell.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there was other things on top of the 800 ever offered up, but that's the number that I heard 800, my grandma had a little 25 caliber, it would had, like the ivory, looking like little hand.
Speaker 2:I think like that yeah it was very cool.
Speaker 3:A little derringer like pistol. Yeah, she carried when we went to our cabin up in a Tyrove County when I was younger.
Speaker 1:She's at the con. You would see like they'd hide down in there and they're like a sock, yeah, sock and stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely. Nowadays you see girls with the phones in their butt pockets. This is a put, this is a. Literally, this is a gun you could fit in your back pocket, oh nice. So she had been driven to the Butterfucko house by PDG himself in PDG, pdg in his Ford Thunderbird which was now brandishing a license plate She'd stolen the day before and she thought of it all of course that's. That's some spy shit right there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, look at her.
Speaker 2:So I'm thinking about this, whatever I just think of, like the most Obnoxious or most Standout ish car that you could describe to a tee that everyone knows that it's this guy's car, but that no, no, no, it's not my car. Look at the license plate. They reported. It's not my license plate.
Speaker 3:A thunderbird come on asshole the, but the fourth under bird used to have the on the on the back of the tail.
Speaker 2:Window yeah, I had the T bird Science. Yeah, cool, I wonder I wonder what you're this?
Speaker 1:yeah, that's what I'm trying to think on the documentaries and stuff they depicted as like that early 90s Thunderbird.
Speaker 3:So it was like a new boxy. Yeah, yeah, it was like the boxy, maybe like a gray color.
Speaker 2:Well, remember that car that Chud had in in high school. I don't remember his car. He had a mercury, the mercury, the mercury, equivalent equivalent of the fourth Thunderbird.
Speaker 3:Okay mercury, whatever it was, and it was that mercury cougar because it had the cougar signs. There you go. Yeah okay, there you go. Thunderbird. I think my dad had a Thunderbird for like two years. Yeah they like wrecked it.
Speaker 1:They brought the Thunderbird back then, like in the 2000s, late, late 2000.
Speaker 3:They try to make it the convertible.
Speaker 2:We're looking the retro. Look yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. So yeah, let's see fake license plates stolen the day before. All right, so knock, knock, knock. Mary Joe answers the door. Amy had a story to tell, in hopes that it would anger Mary Joe enough to make her leave. Joey Amy posed as her own made-up sister named Anne Marie, and went on to tell Mary Joe that her sister, amy, was having an affair with Mary Joe's husband. She even went on to showcase a t-shirt from Joey shop is proof.
Speaker 3:This is funny when, like people call in to those like love lines, stuff like that, they're like oh, not for me, but I have a friend, friend, yeah, it's never done Like her story was so. So not, this is not me.
Speaker 2:But I have a friend with a rectile dysfunction.
Speaker 3:My sister is sleeping with her husband. I just want to tell you, I'm just letting you know, just look over advice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she said Mary Joe was recounting this whole interaction on the 2020 special and she said that like when she came up and was, she could tell right away she was lying, because she was kind of stuttering over words and she was long, not yet Okay, but she said Damn.
Speaker 2:I'm only laughing because I know what happens.
Speaker 3:I don't know why you guys are laughing at all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but she had. She had told her like I'd found this in my sister's bed when she was changing the bed. She found that and and then eight or Mary Joe said was saying herself that she was being a smart ass. Back to her like, oh, you make your sister's bed and you know, trying just being a smart ass to her, sure, like why you wasting my time here. Yeah, I know my husband's not having an affair.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know Joey wouldn't do just just beat it.
Speaker 2:My husband owns a body shop and he has. He gets hundreds of t-shirts made. He gives these things away, wait to everybody. Yeah, yeah, they're gonna say hundreds of thousands of dollars every, every, every mirror he fixes, he gives away a fucking t-shirt sure right yeah pretty much.
Speaker 1:So she was kind of annoyed by her and that infuriated. She could see it in her eyes like it was infuriating her. Amy Fisher was getting like so pissed that you're not taking me seriously.
Speaker 3:Right, because she was a kid. She's some kid knocking on a grown woman's door. That's why she was like come on.
Speaker 1:Well, she was at the time 16, or maybe 17 by now, and she told her she was 19. She said I'm 19. Well, how was your sister? She's 16. She's like you're not 19.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, you know right. That's why she was just messing with her like, come on, get off. Get off my step. I don't know what's going on, I don't have time for this shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah and I see where you're going with this, dave. So yeah, mary Joe ended up demanding Amy leave, just get the hell out. Well, that Amy that you had said Absolutely right on. You know she's just so pissed that Mary won't believe her story and that Mary's just throwing it right back in her face like stop wasting my time. When Mary Joe turned around to go call Joey on the phone, amy pistol whipped her twice, then shot her in the face. Well, when Mary Joe turned to go call Joey on the phone, amy pistol whipped her twice, then shot her in the face.
Speaker 3:Damn did they learn that? Like Long Island, they teach kids who knows how to do that like right away. It must be something like in you take like physics, then you have like phys ed and you have like pistol whip 101, I think.
Speaker 2:He starts street fighting and then you see the first one with a gun, and then you see what they do with it, and then you learn.
Speaker 1:True. This area where they lived, though, was like they they were talking about then. It's massive peak. Massive peak was that they call sure it's like super suburbs.
Speaker 1:They were like it's like the picturesque, like perfect town, there's no crime, it's just an honor. About now, yeah, in the 90s they were. They were talking about growing up air, the kids, the buddha fuko kids were like you could ride your bike everywhere, this, that and the other. That day that this went down, mary joe's kids at the time were like 10 and 8 or 11 and 9 around that age and they would ride their bikes to school when they rolled enough. Well, this is the first day that I guess maybe the youngest one, the daughter, was able to ride the bike to school. She remembers that morning that the sun went out. They got on their bikes and the sun was like wait a minute. And ran back in. And you know, mary joe was like what are you doing? He's like I don't know, something doesn't feel right. She's like what do you mean?
Speaker 3:That's what joey said.
Speaker 1:Yeah right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like a sixth sense or something like you felt there was something in the air.
Speaker 1:He came back in that morning and was like she's like, did you forget something? He's like no, I just something doesn't feel right. And she's like you, you're probably just over thinking it, just go to school. And that the daughter was like all excited. It was their first day to ride the bike to school. But they went off and went to school when Mary joe didn't think much of it. But then later on that day is when all this went down. So I don't know if the boy had like a sixth sense she was kind of hitting around at like why would he do that?
Speaker 3:Did he see dead people?
Speaker 1:Maybe I don't know, but she talked about that on that, that 2020 thing. She was talking about that and that's just crazy. Maybe he did have a sixth sense, like he knew something bad was about to happen. I also wonder what would have happened if Mary joe would have been receptive to to amy's hey, your husband's having an affair. If she would have been like what mother for, I'm gonna get him, you know, and like pissed about it, yeah what if it didn't?
Speaker 3:yeah, if it reversed. And then Amy Fisher would have been like yeah, mother.
Speaker 1:I'm sleeping with your husband, let's go get him you know, and then they were ganged up on him, and then I wouldn't. You know what I went after him.
Speaker 2:But and that's I I believe that to be her, her drive, her intent, amy's in my opinion at the time I should say in my opinion of what happened at the time Amy's intent was to piss off Mary joe. Enough for her to say, well, fuck this guy, I'm leaving him, he's done, I whatever. Like win-win situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like I don't think she went to go killed a woman really yeah, she's just her.
Speaker 1:That's what I was kind of wondering.
Speaker 2:She wanted her to divorce her husband, to leave her husband so she could have him all to herself.
Speaker 1:Basically, yeah it makes sense. That's what I was kind of wondering.
Speaker 2:Well, after getting after shooting Mary joe in the face in a whirl of panic, Amy dropped the gun and the t-shirt and ran to the getaway car where old PDG was waiting to whisk her away. Of course, PDG doesn't get the nickname PDG without you know knowing how to clear a crime scene right. So as soon as she got back to the car, peter said basically what is wrong with you? Go get that goddamn gun and the t-shirt. It's got your fingerprints and everything all over it. Go get that shit.
Speaker 3:And so she dropped the t-shirt and the gun, and the gun. Yeah on the floor.
Speaker 1:In the house, like it's no, on the porch, I think on the porch.
Speaker 2:On the porch, yeah, it's just like. Think of a I don't know something. Think of any scene like where a woman is frantic and moving, the gun goes off and oh all of it.
Speaker 2:You know she's just panic and drops the gun just get out of there or think of the, the fifth element, when, when Ruby rod is holding that gun against the the one alien, he shoots him Bruce Willis, right, bruce Willis, that's right. And Ruby rod shoots the the alien and you know, he drops the gun. Oh my god, oh my god, do you think it'll be okay?
Speaker 3:It's just that, just this panic. Well, no, she probably never even shot a gun. She probably like she didn't even know what the hell, like she knows she needs the. You know, pdg probably had it like cocked and loaded for her, or she shoots it. She's like holy shit. Like you said, she needed to get out of there. Yep, I'm surprised it didn't go off when she whipped her with it. Yeah, that's what I yeah, because she was probably holding it with her finger on the trigger. Yep.
Speaker 2:Well, all right. So we sent her back to get the shit. So she go, grabs the two items, returns to the car and the two just speed away. All right with that. I mean that's sounds you know, so far, so good. It's like all caught on ring cam, it's it's the perfect crime.
Speaker 1:Fun fact too that day she had went to school and called out sick, like, went to the nurse's office, basically almost like for an alibi, like oh, was it school? But then I was sick and they called and um, the mom, I guess. So, yeah, I told her to just head home. So she went home and then hooked up with this guy and did all this and then after this she went home and went to the local college or whatever school she was looking to go to to register for classes and she did a couple other things to try to go get her yeah.
Speaker 1:It was like she was doing all this shit that guys kind of like.
Speaker 3:I've alibis like.
Speaker 1:Oh, I was here, I was there, I was there.
Speaker 3:I could have never been there, you know, and uh yeah, kind of reminds me of like hack, Like you walk around hacks sometimes like when I was no, no, no, I'm just saying, like you go around, like I wish. Wondered what people were doing like in their spare time. Yeah, you know what?
Speaker 5:I mean, yeah, not killing. I'm just saying like, yeah, you're walking around like well, what's this guy?
Speaker 3:And then you see like one dude there, it's like 40 something, Me like, ah, he's probably going back to school for something Then. But then you see like kids that look like way too young. Then you like try to go back and take a class and you're like in the middle.
Speaker 1:So you're like I'm, like I'm like I don't belong, yeah, yeah, but she tried to like, like I said, she tried to have alibis and look, like I said, with the license plate and all that. This was all kind of planned out.
Speaker 3:You know, she had it, she was but I don't, I don't think she was that bright, I don't think hanging out with guys like you know, from future physique and PDG. Future. I don't think you're really now. She was messing around with the PDG guy too. He was getting a little.
Speaker 1:I think like he was.
Speaker 3:he kept asking her and stuff like hey, what do I get for this?
Speaker 1:and stuff like that, Right, there's anybody that I have come across researching that or researching her, and this whole story pretty much said we were. You know, sex was offered or this or that. That was kind of like the MO you know like payment.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Payment for the wet wet.
Speaker 1:And she was making money at that escort server like big, big money.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I think it was $100 an hour. They said which back in the day dang she too.
Speaker 3:that's the thing, too, With like that's a lot of dicks, but with people knowing that she was 17, 18 at the time, 19, 17, be very clear no older than 17.
Speaker 2:That's a big sale.
Speaker 1:That's plumber money. You know good electrician Hell yeah, you know a hundred bucks an hour man and that's now 23 money yeah.
Speaker 2:Mm, hmm.
Speaker 1:She's making as in 90, what two hell yeah, she's buying spinners.
Speaker 2:She's buying all kinds of shit for that car. I then help. By now she's probably bought a new car.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was definitely an Alpine head unit on in that car back when hell yeah, he was doing it back then? I don't know.
Speaker 3:That's right. Like it's probably some like a weird name on it too, like on the head unit. Yeah, it's probably no name, or Jensen, jensen or something. Yeah, crack, cracko, cracka.
Speaker 1:Cracka yeah.
Speaker 3:Cracko Hills. Hills had the Cracko.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that was terrible.
Speaker 3:Pyramid Pyramids were not bad yeah.
Speaker 2:So these two speed away. Oh my goodness, what's going to happen next? Hey guys, can you wrap it up? Oh man, just when it was getting good, I know she has.
Speaker 3:she has Joey to do that, or yeah, she's selling candy bars.
Speaker 2:So we better wrap this up, oh Jesus, I mean, look man, she's just about to get away with murder, or so she thinks. So she thinks Well, I don't know, I don't know the whole story yet. Well, let's hope she at least gets away.
Speaker 1:Right. Yeah, this is a wild one. There's a lot more to come.
Speaker 3:A lot, a lot more to come A lot more to come Literally To come literally. Yeah, man, oh, amy, the Amy.
Speaker 2:Fisher dumpster.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 2:All right, well, this has been fun, but we got to run.
Speaker 1:Yep Guys, got anything else in closing?
Speaker 3:No, I'm waiting for a part part. Part two yeah.
Speaker 1:So don't forget to tune back in next week for part two of Amy Fisher and Joey Budafuco.
Speaker 3:Don't forget, joey.
Speaker 1:Also known as what.
Speaker 3:Fire starter.
Speaker 1:Fire thrower. Fire thrower and the long.
Speaker 2:Also known as Joey Wrenches.
Speaker 1:Joey Wrenches Joey and. Joey.
Speaker 3:B.
Speaker 1:And the Long Island Lolita yeah.
Speaker 3:Long Island. Lolita yes, yep.
Speaker 1:All right, so I guess that's it for now, so we'll catch you where.
Speaker 2:On the flip side If we don't see you sooner, we'll see you later, please.
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