Get ready to journey back to the infamous “Long Island Lolita” scandal that rocked the nation in the 90s! Today, we promise to provide you an in-depth exploration of the twisted narrative involving Joey Buttafuoco and Amy Fisher, from the initial illicit relationship to the attempted murder, and the media frenzy that followed. This isn't just another rehash of the scandal, we dig into the cultural implications of the term "Lolita," Amy Fisher's obsession, the investigation, as well as the riveting aftermath of the trial.
Fasten your seatbelts as we shine a spotlight on the overlooked victim, Mary Jo Buttafuoco, and her extraordinary resilience. We'll also discuss the controversially lenient sentence that Amy received, her life post-prison, and the continuous media attention she has garnered. But we won't stop there! We'll delve into Joey Buttafuoco's side of the story - his involvement in auto insurance fraud, Howard Stern show appearances, and celebrity boxing stint.
Finally, we'll bring you up-to-date on where these key figures are now. Reflecting on the scandal that once dominated headlines, we discuss the shifting narrative over time and the legacy it left behind. Don't miss this chance to explore one of the most sensational scandals of the 90s from an entirely new perspective in this part 2 of 2 podcast!
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Get ready to journey back to the infamous “Long Island Lolita” scandal that rocked the nation in the 90s! Today, we promise to provide you an in-depth exploration of the twisted narrative involving Joey Buttafuoco and Amy Fisher, from the initial illicit relationship to the attempted murder, and the media frenzy that followed. This isn't just another rehash of the scandal, we dig into the cultural implications of the term "Lolita," Amy Fisher's obsession, the investigation, as well as the riveting aftermath of the trial.
Fasten your seatbelts as we shine a spotlight on the overlooked victim, Mary Jo Buttafuoco, and her extraordinary resilience. We'll also discuss the controversially lenient sentence that Amy received, her life post-prison, and the continuous media attention she has garnered. But we won't stop there! We'll delve into Joey Buttafuoco's side of the story - his involvement in auto insurance fraud, Howard Stern show appearances, and celebrity boxing stint.
Finally, we'll bring you up-to-date on where these key figures are now. Reflecting on the scandal that once dominated headlines, we discuss the shifting narrative over time and the legacy it left behind. Don't miss this chance to explore one of the most sensational scandals of the 90s from an entirely new perspective in this part 2 of 2 podcast!
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Thanks for tuning in to the Old Dirty Basement On today's episode. We're wrapping up part two of the Long Island Lolita, amy Fisher and Joey Butifuco.
Speaker 2:Ah, yes, we return to the complete auto body repair shop. Come for the service, stay for the lube.
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Speaker 4:This is the old, dirty basement home to the pottery madness, murder and mayhem. A tear filled train ride deep into the depths of the devil's den with a little bit of humor history and copious consciousness. I'm your announcer shallow throat. Your hosts are Dave, Matt and Zap. I love you, Matthew McGoney, All right all right, all right.
Speaker 3:Hey, this is Dave, matt and Zap, and welcome to the old, dirty basement where every week we cover a true crime murder or compelling story. So sit back, relax and comprehend. Hello, hello everyone, and welcome to the old, dirty basement I am Matt with. To be always is Dave and Zap. How's it going, gentlemen?
Speaker 2:Good, good, good. Yeah, man, how are you?
Speaker 3:I'm good over here, over here.
Speaker 2:With that in mind, we must be talking about Joey Butifuco.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Joey, we were talking about him. What last week Joey Wrenches?
Speaker 1:Joey Wrenches.
Speaker 3:Joey B or Joey G, whatever they would call him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I knew this was going to be at least two parts. It was just like so much to go into and I figured, and yeah, still a lot more to go through, and excited to get to it. Hell yeah, man.
Speaker 3:We're talking about what? Amy Fisher also. Oh yeah, Joey Butifuco.
Speaker 2:Let's not forget the, his love interest.
Speaker 1:The Long Island.
Speaker 2:Lolita Long Island Lolita.
Speaker 3:You guys ever see that movie Lolita?
Speaker 1:It's just called Lolita.
Speaker 3:I think Jeremy Irons is in the a new version of it, but is that the one.
Speaker 2:What Madonna sings a song. No, no, don't cry for me.
Speaker 3:No, what would she say? Don't cry for me, argentina, lolita. No, she would say don't cry for me, lolita. Well, not Argentina. What does Lolita mean? You're talking about the Spanish lady. What was that?
Speaker 2:My big fat Greek wedding yes.
Speaker 3:Part three. Yeah, she's saying don't cry for me, argentina in that one.
Speaker 1:What does Lolita mean? Just like a hussey. Is that what it?
Speaker 2:is Wait, wait, wait. You're saying with respect to the Long Island Lolita.
Speaker 1:Just the word Lolita.
Speaker 2:So Lolita was actually a book and it was of Russian nature, written by some Rusky, about a dude who was he wasn't in a FIBA file. He was actually a FIBA file, so he was into what's that?
Speaker 3:He was into early pubescent. I thought they said curling.
Speaker 1:No, I think it said the Olympics. Herbivore.
Speaker 2:Herbivore.
Speaker 1:Herbivore.
Speaker 2:So he was a heba file and he was it, which means he was into basically tenor it's grown ass man who's into 10 to 12 year olds In the middle. So he became, in this book, lolita. He became obsessed with this girl named Lolita that was again just a little girl at the time and then he just ended the story of him, you know, just fucking with her whole childhood.
Speaker 3:I think she was what 15 or 16 in the movie.
Speaker 2:In the movie. So she ended up going on in the book. She went on to have a decent life and a husband and all that good stuff she got married and stuff and had a kid. He ended up just a drunkard or just broke as a joke or just a piece of shit. But whatever, read the book.
Speaker 1:And that's where Lolita?
Speaker 3:He got so infatuated with this girl that he married the mom even to like get that more close to her.
Speaker 1:That's a fun fact. Yeah, because I just never knew what the term Lolita, where it came from.
Speaker 3:If it was like watch the movie, it's streaming. It's actually called Lolita.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll have to check it out. It's kind of like a months in.
Speaker 2:You know from the, you know Herman.
Speaker 1:Herman Munson, no Munson from Kingpin. All of a sudden that name synonymous with screwing up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he did a month you months and it yeah, yeah. Okay, I think you meant, like in science class, the months and burner.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's no, that's from the Muppets months and yes, jimmy, yeah, jim. Munson, jim Munson. All right, so many months and, oh wait, one more. There's one more months and I think was the last name of the Eddie Munson. Eddie Munson I think that's his last name the guy for the long hair from the last season of Stranger Things.
Speaker 3:Mr Eddie Munson. Was it that played like drop, that played the guitar and the bats were after, yeah, the last season of that. Isn't that coming soon?
Speaker 2:So there was a recent writer strike, so they're not going to do shit until they can get that going. Ps, the kids are now adults, so let's work on that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the ones married. Other ones like, I think, 37.
Speaker 2:That's right, the girl 11 is married to John Bonjiobe's son yeah, son yeah. Jim.
Speaker 3:Bonjiobe. James James Bonjiobe. How about that? James Herbert Bonjiobe?
Speaker 2:Well, enough about James and John and bullshit, let's get back to Joe.
Speaker 3:Let's get back to Joey and Amy.
Speaker 2:All right. So the first we saw these two, we had spoken about Amy Fisher's background, her formative years, her sexual sex copades as a teenager, an abortion she had had.
Speaker 3:We then talked about how she met Mr Butterfucko Sounds like a like a Bruce Springsteen song, sex copades, like sex copades she had in the abortion. She just got done with Sounds Springsteen, springsteen Street of.
Speaker 2:Philadelphia. She met Joey Butterfucko because her parents had a busted car on the streets of Long.
Speaker 3:Island.
Speaker 2:She ended up messing up her car, having to take her car there and took a liking to Joey. After that, she started messing up her car on purpose scratching it, denting it, doing whatever, Just anytime she needed to go to get a repair. That's where she went, and she would intentionally need repairs.
Speaker 3:Because they did all kinds of repairs.
Speaker 1:I think Matt used to do that. He used to split his lease up into like 10 payments when you were renting. Remember that.
Speaker 3:Television? No, I had an apartment and it was funny, dave, I think, would deliver to this to said apartments. What do they call it? The clubhouse.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but she was nice. Yeah, she always had candy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Instead of paying once you just go?
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, I would go, like you paid three times this week, matt.
Speaker 1:I'm just trying to pay as you go, I see.
Speaker 3:She'd be like would you like some candy Matt?
Speaker 1:Of course I would, didn't you go out jogging too, like what the fuck He'd see her like, and then he'd go out like he's jogging, oh hey, oh funny, yeah, like I stopped and I was like just got done with the training for a marathon, here's my payment.
Speaker 3:She's like oh, matt, you're always on time.
Speaker 1:Matt Fisher every week, you silly.
Speaker 2:Every three days you show up with more money. That's fantastic.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's amazing, oh, all right. So now Amy is falling for Joey, not just falling for him. She becomes obsessed with him. Joey ends up breaking or she gives him the ultimatum like, look, it's either your wife or me. He chooses his wife. She breaks it off with him, ends up meeting up with this dude or get into a relationship with this dude, paul Makley.
Speaker 1:Physical physique.
Speaker 4:That's right Future, physique, physical future. It's the only gym with a DeLorean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so a flux capacitor, but in the meantime she's still needed and craved that.
Speaker 3:Joey, she's also an escort at this time, for all the right reasons.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's right by now. She's an escort slash prostitute Making who knows? Allegedly, we don't know. No, she's banging dudes, okay, 100% banging dudes, underage. Let's see, let's see, okay. So she gets back together with Joey, goes to her hairdressers one day. Here's her hairdresser complaining about some chick going after her boyfriend and, oh man, she would just do anything to kill this girl. That gives Amy the idea oh, what a good idea. Maybe I could go kill Joey's wife and then he would have no choice but to be with me.
Speaker 3:I mean the hairdresser like I was being facetious. I wasn't really serious about that Wow.
Speaker 1:Speaking of allegedly. How about that? Just to get off rails real quick. How about that? Picture that?
Speaker 2:Jersey. It's never really quick, it's never really quick.
Speaker 1:At the Bill's game. The guy had an OJ jersey on that's the best and on the nameplate on the back it's number 32 for the bills. It says allegedly for the name on the back.
Speaker 2:That is so fantastic. I need that jersey. It is a good one. So the name Simpson is replaced with allegedly Allegedly 32.
Speaker 3:Real quick off the tracks again. It's never really quick Off the tracks again. We're going to get back on. We're taking a quick detour.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 3:We're going to come back to the road, but just you guys. I saw Kevin Bacon. We've had a lot of movies with Kevin Bacon in it. Got to see him in the Bacon Brothers. He's him and his brother, who is a professor of music at a place in Brooklyn, I think. I'm not quite sure of the name, but do you guys know where Kevin Bacon's from Pennsylvania? Yes, he is, he's from Philadelphia.
Speaker 4:Is he yes?
Speaker 3:Born, raised, grew up, he has like a whole T-shirt Like it's a Philly thing, and I was like what the heck's that T-shirt for? And Megan's like because he's from Philadelphia.
Speaker 2:Is the word thing crossed out and John is written underneath it.
Speaker 3:No, it just says it's a Philly thing and it has like Bacon Brothers. Yeah, but him and his brother like big Eagles fans big, so they're Kevin Bacon's a Pennsylvania proud.
Speaker 1:So I thought that was a cool thing. Who knew? Yeah, who knew? And it's just here in Hershey.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's just right here in Hershey.
Speaker 2:That's fantastic. I love bacon.
Speaker 3:So do I.
Speaker 2:It's crispy and delicious. Fucking tear up some bacon dude Look like Butterfuga liked it too Bacon, Bacon.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So, speaking of Bacon, bacon, so yeah. So not only did Amy get this idea from a hairdresser, she went on to ask her hairdresser where she could find a gun. Her hairdresser put her in touch with a guy named PDG real name, peter Gujenti. He's a beast on the saxophone too, allegedly, and she's a beast on the skin flute. That's right, that's right. You know, that's right, that's right. So let's see, let's see. Oh, so she gets the gun, or she while in the process of getting the gun she tells Joe, amy's got a gun, that's right.
Speaker 2:Amy says to Joey hey, joey, how are you? She says, hey, joey, I got this idea. I'm going to go shoot your wife. And Joey says, oh, hey, man, it's fantastic, you should do it.
Speaker 2:That's according to Amy, but according to Joey, that is all made up. Well then, on one day, may 19, 1992, amy, driven by PDG, drives to the Buttafucco house, knocks on the door, gets into a discussion with discussion with Mary Jo, and when Mary Jo doesn't give Amy the answer that she wants to hear, right to the face oh, right to the face, that was fantastic, thank you for that Right. So a flustered and, you know, scared and frightened, for lack of a better word, amy drops the gun right there at the doorstep and at the scene, at the scene, and flees. Pdg says you dumb bitch, go get the work, but you cannot leave the weapon here.
Speaker 3:This is quoted.
Speaker 2:Yes, he says you dumb bitch, that was quoted from PDG, Absolutely. He says go get the gun and the t-shirt and let's get out of here. So getting a thunderbird and get the hell out, that's it and off the way they drove, and that's where we ended last time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so that day that happened across the street from the, budda Fugos was a retired police officer and he was sitting out on his deck and I guess had a nice view of the water there, because they're right on the water and he heard that gunshot. Of course, being in law enforcement, he knew exactly what it was. He ran around the house, heart beating you know what the hell was that and then he looked across the street and saw her slumped over on the porch. Y'all didn't do. His wife call 911, you know, right away got over there, checked her pulse. It was very faint but thank God that he was there that quickly because she would have bled out for sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh for sure. So I had read, not only about that one. I'd actually read that three neighbors heard the shot and three neighbors made their way to Mary Jo, while that police officer's wife was the one that called. Stay home woman know your place, stay home, call 911, make me some cake.
Speaker 1:I think I'm sure like he was probably the most calm of the because he's been around it and all that. So he probably kind of let them all like hey, you do this, you do that.
Speaker 3:We probably saw too, that she was still alive. There was like hope.
Speaker 1:Well, he said like the pulse was faint, but it was there.
Speaker 2:So, despite suffering a gunshot to the face, a severed carotid artery, carotid and a bullet lodged in her skull that couldn't be removed, after nine hours of surgery and two days on a respirator, mary Jo lived, amazing, amazing. And again, dave, she could have bled out right there on the porch.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God, yeah.
Speaker 2:Nowadays she would have. Well, how about that? The neighbors don't give a shit.
Speaker 1:That hockey player. That happened, oh my God, dude, I saw that. Oh God, that was so awful, he bled out in like a minute.
Speaker 3:But that was the same artery, but I think it was sliced, so it was just like.
Speaker 1:Right, but you would think if a bullet goes through, it's now open and your just pumping blood is just bleeding. I don't know.
Speaker 3:I mean the short's different. The guy that cut him was being charged for manslaughter. He should be, If you watch that tape.
Speaker 2:There's no way any hockey players like he basically tried to kick his neck off. Yeah, like no hockey players. Foot should be that high ever.
Speaker 1:Ever. I know that's crazy.
Speaker 3:Do you think it was just like? He was that mad, he was like I'm just going to kick them and scare them, and it just was like maybe shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think he wasn't really thinking.
Speaker 2:There's no reason the hockey players foot should be that high period. That guy should rot, absolutely rot. Speaking of rotting. Meanwhile. This is, you know, mary Joe, rotting on the.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think I don't know where you're going with that transition. Meanwhile we'll go with it.
Speaker 2:Meanwhile, police made inquiries of Joey as to who could have possibly done such a thing. Who, Well, he suggested it could have been Paul Makley, with assistance from Paul's girlfriend Amy, who was also a friend of Joey's. So basically Joey's like, yeah, it could be this mullet dude, Paul Makley and you know, his girlfriend Amy, and that was the gym guy Cause I, yeah, the gym owning guy. Future physique flux capacitor physique.
Speaker 3:Yeah, not knowing that the police would question everybody. That's right Like, be like. So you didn't know this. Amy Fisher, joey, yeah, I've heard of her. She was in the shop a few times.
Speaker 2:I'm surprised he said anything why?
Speaker 1:would he just say I don't know, did he give him that info before?
Speaker 4:Yeah, oh, he did. Okay, because yeah, I was, he talked to him again, bro, okay, after.
Speaker 2:Okay, so while while Mary Jo is unconscious for two days on a respirator, he throws that out there. He put that out there. Look not for nothing. If it were me, I would have said I have no idea. Officer.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:We live in a nice, you know, beaver, cleaver.
Speaker 1:Well most people thought it would thought it was a home invasion, or they were, you know, trying to rob Sure.
Speaker 2:According to Joey, it was entirely possible that Paul shot Mary Jo out of revenge against him, as Amy had loaned money to Paul, and Joey told Amy it was a bad idea for her to loan money to Paul. Yeah, that's, that's the story he concocted, like dude. Stupid people shouldn't commit crimes, just say I don't know.
Speaker 1:Right, he's just giving up all the info Like what the fuck You're telling me?
Speaker 2:I'm going to be Mr Police Officer here for a second. Mr Budafuco, mr Firethrower, you're telling me that you think this dude shot, or his girlfriend shot, your wife because you told his girlfriend that loaning money to him was a bad idea. Seriously, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3:What if the cops are there, like you know doing the little stories on little notepads are like all right, this is pretty cut and dry. Thanks, man, we're good, we're good here. Thanks, joe.
Speaker 2:Thanks, Joe. You should be a detective, Joe. You're pretty good. You're an upstanding citizen, Joe.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's my card this week. We got it this week. It'll be done, like thanks.
Speaker 2:Joe. Wow, the wildly unbelievable police had little else to go on relative to a suspect. That is until Mary Jo recovered On May 20th. Mary Jo regained consciousness. She went on to tell the police the story of Ann Marie Fisher's visit to the house and provided a physical description of her attacker and her attacker's boyfriend's car. Okay, joey, I don't know. Is the answer Like there is a possibility that your wife's gonna wake up? You know she's gonna. We think she's gonna forget that she got shot and who shot her and what that person looked like. Technically she could have.
Speaker 3:Well, they said, you know what I mean. Like if she did come out of it, that's a big gamble, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:When she did come, you know, come out of the coma, or when she was out, she couldn't speak cause she had the. Not only she had a breathing tube in her.
Speaker 3:Yeah, girlfriend in a coma, I know.
Speaker 1:Is it a Smith song? It's serious. That's a good song, dear Christ. But she. So she had to get a notepad and she wrote down, like the name and the T-shirt or the shirt and this information and all that. She had to write it down because she couldn't speak. Probably because of the stroke at the time and also the breathing tube. There's that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, where was the bullet? The bullet, was it lodged in her head? Did it come out like anywhere?
Speaker 1:They got lodged in there, yeah.
Speaker 2:It was lodged, absolutely lodged, stuck in. They could not get it out Tank 25 caliber.
Speaker 3:She's lucky it was a 25. Cause it was a nine millimeter or a 45. That close, yeah, it would have blew the back of her head out.
Speaker 2:Armed with this new information, the police questioned Joey again. Now Joey, reverting back to his initial story, said once again well, it's like I said it, it was either that guy or now it's entirely possible that in fact it was this girl, this Amy girl. I don't know her. I told you that from the gay right I said it was either this dude or this girl.
Speaker 1:What she kept telling the police, or she he kept telling the police, was yeah, she's a daughter of one of my, one of my customers Customers. Yeah, it was no talk of like, oh, I had a, you know, a relationship or anything like that. Not at all.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow.
Speaker 3:That's all I had to say. Was I had a relationship with it? Well then, you're in trouble for the underage too, but I don't know if that's the thing after the fact.
Speaker 2:We'll find out. We'll find out after the thing. I don't know if that's the thing after the fact. I don't think it's a thing until somebody says it's a thing.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:No, I'm saying it's like it does. If a tree falls in the woods, does it make a sound. So in this case, if a guy has sex with somebody who's underage, did it happen on or is it a crime? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait Just the guy, me and girl also, until you can't. Well, I'm not good, I'm not even going down that road you, it's not discovered or it's not a crime, unless the girl says look man, this guy had sex with me, and I was just a teenager at the time.
Speaker 1:I was underage.
Speaker 4:Yup, Is that? Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1:I think, is, if they come out and make that charge, and you know what I mean, then it becomes I'm not saying, anyway, she performed that it's not wrong.
Speaker 3:I'm just saying it doesn't officially become a crime until you disclose it, or if you break up with me, I'm telling the cops, that's right, that's right, and then you're like oh so.
Speaker 2:Police returned to Mary Joe with a photo of Amy, and Mary Joe immediately identified her as the attacker. Well, there it is Done. Case closed, it's open and shut.
Speaker 1:Case Johnson Open and shut. I saw this once when I was a rookie.
Speaker 2:So they're looking for this broad, Apparently, you know these. A couple of days go by and Amy's not shown up at her house. So again, now that police know she was identified, you know, here's the picture. Yeah, that's the chick that shot me in the face Police are looking for. Could not find her, so the police instruct Joey to contact Amy in order to find out where she was.
Speaker 3:Now Amy was on the lamb yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean but yeah, but for how long? Yeah, yeah, where was she at the mall?
Speaker 1:The mall. Where are you going?
Speaker 3:Sleeping over at your friends maybe a day or two Right Over at the complete auto body repair shop with your.
Speaker 2:Joey, stop at the Orange Julius as Barrow.
Speaker 3:Mary go around, yeah as Barrow, grab a slice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, I was looking at Massa Piqua on the map, long Island, and it's not big and I would imagine looking at like the little this is modern day on Google Maps. But it's kind of like the same way our Route 22 is, or Carlisle, but everything's right there if you need it. So if I don't really leave that area, no, hell, no, you know, it's all there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean they go to like the beach on the weekends. Maybe or maybe, or they stop it.
Speaker 2:They stop at Bleebson Blips Arcade.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Bleebson Blips that was at the Colonial Park Mall way back.
Speaker 1:But the Butifucos house was like right on the water, like right there, like they literally walk to the little beach there. You know what I mean Oyster Bay, I think it's called Mm Is the, the bot, but it was like a, like you look, if you see any videos of stuff and pictures of it is beautiful.
Speaker 3:Beautiful, absolutely so they're like today. Those are million dollar homes easy.
Speaker 2:Easy.
Speaker 1:I was shocked. And the garage is a million, yeah, mm hmm, I know that just with my work where I'm at. After 9-11, a lot of people that lived on Long Island were moving out of Long Island because they were getting so much money for their homes, because there was a lot of people like leaving the city after 9-11. Sure, all that property value skyrocketed, which I'm sure was already expensive, and then they would transfer, like with my work, they would come down build a house. In Lancaster I got a mansion.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:You know, and they had a 1500 square foot house or 2000 square foot house in Long Island. Now they're building an 8000 square foot house.
Speaker 3:Yep Never forget.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yep, and it was all right after that, and you know. So I'd imagine this area is probably way up there in value.
Speaker 2:Thanks, osama.
Speaker 1:Mm, hmm, I don't remember.
Speaker 3:Actually real quick.
Speaker 4:It's never real quick. It's never real quick.
Speaker 3:But I remember where I worked at the time being shut down because we weren't letting any air traffic out that day.
Speaker 1:Yes, Couldn't fly yeah couldn't do anything.
Speaker 2:It was crazy, it was a crazy day for all of us.
Speaker 2:I'm sure we all remember where we were that day, yep. So now, scared out of his mind as to what she might say, joey ultimately got a hold of her on the phone and police discovered that she was now at her parents' house. This makes sense, right? Like he's calling her, calling her, and I'm sure she's excited to get to get a hold of. Holy shit, I got a beep from Joey. Oh, ps, when I say he's calling her, he's actually beeping her. This is 92. She's actually got a peeping. People are carrying beepers Sky page up. Hell yeah, s O S.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Call me. Yeah, so they go to Amy's parents' house. She is arrested and she was actually, at that point, told that it was Joey's call and Joey's interviews with the police that led them to her Backstabber. Yeah, so now she's pissed. She is a woman scorned. Now, immediately, amy tells the police that she and Joey were lovers and that it was Joey who'd given the gun and the instructions to her. Sounds like he said. She said to me.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Where's the proof?
Speaker 2:Yeah. She also went on to say that the shooting was an accident, that the gun had accidentally gone off, that she'd only intended to scare Mary Jo, not shoot her.
Speaker 4:I don't know.
Speaker 2:Well, these stories of Amy's would go all over the place and she would be asked to tell the same story, and it would be a different version every time. This, of course, diminishes her credibility over and, over and over again. She's not a good liar. Not at all. Not at all. In fact, it was only thanks to neighbors of the Budafukos that Paul Makley was dismissed as an accomplice as he did not fit the description of the guy driving that Thunderbird. So that's good.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Good luck for Paul. He could go back to work into the gym yeah. Future physique. That's it. It's getting ripped. Meanwhile, old Joey Budafuka was losing his mind. Don't think about it. He knew he couldn't be linked to the gun, nor directly linked to the crime. However, he had been banging a minor, so they really can't link him to that. Yeah, well, that could be problematic, especially when she said that her and Joey were lovers, but okay.
Speaker 1:And according to her now at that time. I don't know if it changed, but at that time in New York age of consent was 17. But they had started sexual relations, according to her, a month before 17th birthday.
Speaker 3:See, there's no way to prove that.
Speaker 1:No, I know, but I'm just saying. According to her testimony, the first time it was like a month before 17th birthday. So he had like given a ride home to her house and their parents were at work that day and come on in and have a cup of coffee WWKD.
Speaker 2:Yep, that's it yeah kid what would kept him. So this is the part that we all remember now. Yes, she's arrested, she's and the tabloids just eat this up the sun and people magazine, all of them.
Speaker 1:Was this before? This was before Bob it? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know it was before OJ. We know that.
Speaker 2:And it was OJ was 94.
Speaker 1:That's correct. I'm not sure about the because we did Bob it, but it's been a while.
Speaker 2:It might have been 91.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm just wondering if this was one of the first of the where it's just on all the time and gets coverage like that, because those are the big three that I think of from the 90.
Speaker 2:Well, the thing is, I feel like it has, because we did Bob it and I can't remember the day in 1989.
Speaker 1:There you go, bob it. Okay, so that was out before that.
Speaker 3:Oh no, hold on 1993.
Speaker 2:Well, which is it 1989?
Speaker 3:the year of your phone. No, it says the former couple married in 89.
Speaker 1:No no okay, okay.
Speaker 3:They received international press coverage in 1993, when Lorena severed John's penis. So this was that, this was before the SS very good, so this might have been one of the first when it was just everywhere.
Speaker 2:Hmm, yeah, dude, and I mean everywhere, and it was so trashy and I mean trashy. Think of the shows that were going on back then, though. I mean, there was the 2020, was whatever, but you had like more current affair a current affair. Maury povich, that's a man. Laurie Morton Downey, gene Morton Downey Jr. Oh man, that guy was awesome.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's one.
Speaker 2:He smoked a lot.
Speaker 3:He loved him he loved him.
Speaker 2:That guy was awesome. Donahue, phil Donahue, that's right.
Speaker 3:He's dead, any as fried chicken.
Speaker 1:I would think he was like 90. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was a 90, but he looked old.
Speaker 2:He did look old, it was the yeah, that way here, steve Martin, yeah he did, but the hairstyle was more like Captain Kangaroo. Yeah, captain Kangaroo forgot about him, who was a Marine, by the way. Captain Kangaroo wasn't that, wasn't that made up?
Speaker 3:what they said Captain Kangaroo is a Marine and Fred Rogers was a ABCO.
Speaker 2:I don't know about Fred Rogers being a Navy seal, but for damn sure Captain Kangaroo was a Marine.
Speaker 3:Sally, jesse Raphael. She had cool glasses.
Speaker 1:Who was the Ricky Lake? I mean, you just go on and on. There's so many of those shows like that and they all deal. Now some of them would change over time, they would get more, some would be more risky, and yeah, and then Oprah now Oprah used to do that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she did when she started. Yeah but yeah, everybody was doing that early 90s as all was hard copy. Yeah, Gerardo.
Speaker 1:Yes, gerardo.
Speaker 3:No, her all though. Yeah, he broke into the vault.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm sure this was on all of them.
Speaker 3:You remember that. I remember when Gerardo yeah, gerardo, broken to the ball. Yeah, the Al Capone's wall. Yeah, there's nothing there.
Speaker 1:I watched that live and I'm so did. I and I'm like you, get this guy.
Speaker 3:That's why I brought it up with a, something that you'll remember from being a kid, you got no credibility right. They like, they like. We're pushing it for like six months.
Speaker 1:I know yeah. I felt like I was watching it for six months.
Speaker 3:That's back only two, when we had like 20 some channels. Maybe, true, that's when cable was just starting. It's cool, this it's cool, this right.
Speaker 2:So this is when the terms fatal attraction and Long Island, low Lita came into vogue. I mean, I know we had mentioned them earlier, but this is when that's again. This is now hitting and it's it's hot, it is hot.
Speaker 1:Did that movie come out? Fatal attraction was that after Fatal attraction was before this Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was 80s, wasn't it? Maybe I've never, seen, I've heard it was good You've had this seen fatal attraction.
Speaker 1:I've never seen fatal attraction away.
Speaker 2:It's way I have never seen it, and I've never seen basic instinct either. What are you doing on vintage cinema review?
Speaker 1:We got to get on them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you got to get on that.
Speaker 1:There's a good people were throwing those around, those terms like, hey, it's, it's worth it, it's absolutely worth it.
Speaker 2:So the again, these, these two saying this is hot.
Speaker 3:This is like these bloodsuckers are everywhere.
Speaker 2:They're reaching out to anyone and everyone. They couldn't hope so, being the first dish any dirt they could find like that, and that's how this goes right they want to be the first with the fresh, hottest story.
Speaker 1:Yo, I had that shit first and be yo.
Speaker 2:I had that shit first.
Speaker 3:Yo, you guys here, amoree, no man.
Speaker 2:Well, the first one was a current affair. They obtained a copy of a sex tape of Amy Recorded by one of her escort clients and it's ironic, it was a current affair. It was a current affair Now. That was by one of her escort clients, matt, and it was a sex tape, which means that she had sex, okay, while money.
Speaker 1:That's how did he not get charged with child born?
Speaker 2:She didn't charge him.
Speaker 1:Maybe it was because she, I don't know no, but in general, I mean if he has well, she was probably of age at the time, so she didn't have to see was 17 year, you're right, and if, if age, it can stem but I would imagine, because that's considered like a porn, like or she even could have been 18 or whatever, when he made the sex tape.
Speaker 2:I know I thought the charges had to be brought by the person. So let's, let's work this bathroom Bath. Let's work this back mathematically. So she was born on August 21st 1974, 74. This thing that's going down now is in 92 and it's only a few months before Her 18th birthday.
Speaker 1:Right and I guess of age, of age of consent, like I said earlier, was 17, then she's good, she's good to go. But I just would think with but I guess, if that tape will get distributed, say, in a state where it's 18. I wonder if you get a gotten trouble for that. I don't know. I guess some current affairs got good lawyers so I'm sure they looked into that Sure before they ever gonna buy a tape, but maybe current affair doesn't give a shit, true?
Speaker 2:and at the same time, if a girl is going to this, there's. This happened with Tracy lords. You guys remember Tracy lords?
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:So, I. Am familiar with her body of work, right, so I have? No, that's not where I was going.
Speaker 3:Tracy was underage. Tracy lords is doing these porno movies.
Speaker 2:She's like oh yeah, fuck it, I'm 18. Of course, of course, I'm 18. No, you're not, not even close that they found out years later.
Speaker 3:And they were 15 or 16 or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, these movies were already out, yeah, but now they're like taken like there.
Speaker 3:A lot of you can't find them. The internet has been scrubbed.
Speaker 2:The dark internet obviously has not been right but the regular internet has been, and any Reputable porno site is not gonna have the Tracy lords early years movies on there. They should be going. Yeah, it is in fact thanks to Tracy lords that now, whenever a porno movie is is recorded, the Starlets of that movie Stand with a video camera facing them and a picture of their, their, their license right, and they say, yeah, this is my name, here is my license, I am of legal age to be on the vacation.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no it's.
Speaker 2:It's so that the poor, it's so the porno movie makers aren't on the hook right, yeah, it makes sense I mean we thought we talked about that.
Speaker 1:You can tell how old a tree is. You cut a tree down and you can count the rain or whatever. They have a way, but with humans I mean yeah, it's just your word. Like you know paperwork. Yeah, like there's no blood testing, go there, your bloods Is yeah, that was at the time you can really get somebody make a fake ID, like he was talking about, just that. You make a fake ID and still you know the mean.
Speaker 2:Screw over the you can and that's why they're like Look, we're doing everything. We can here you can verify this now, if this person is blatantly, blatantly lying to us, how are we gonna stop that?
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, true.
Speaker 2:So this tape, this sex tape, was actually aired on national television on the current affair the night before Amy's bail hearing was it added.
Speaker 3:I hope they edited it yeah they had to put the little like fuzzies, fuzzies, yeah, and those proper places of fuzziness yeah they had to put the fuzz over the fuzz, because this is your 90s.
Speaker 2:They weren't shaving back then? No, probably not.
Speaker 3:No, you know, you got to like cover my legs, all three of them, yeah.
Speaker 1:The fuzzies.
Speaker 2:I hear they call them big dick Matt, big dick Matt BDM. They call him tripod Matt Try pod yeah.
Speaker 3:I thought that daddy long strokes.
Speaker 2:So at this point any shred of credibility Amy might have had is fucking gone. I mean, looks again, trial by media. We've talked about this before. Anybody out there is gonna say you can't keep your story straight. Number one, number two my opinion of you has diminished completely because you're just a. You're a prostitute, right, you're a whore. We can't believe you. You're a harlot.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yes, a judgment is a thing.
Speaker 2:I don't believe you. Well, the Nassau County District Attorney held nothing back in his vigorous case against Amy. On June 2nd her bail was set at two Million dollars. Two million Cardo's go like this, not like this time. The now, that number was the highest bail ever set in the county at the time, all right. So a month or so later, pdg confessed to being the one who procured the gun for Amy. Not long after, that gun was discovered in a storm drain near Amy's house.
Speaker 3:Wow, let's come on, man, you got, you got it. What the river or the lake nearby there, the?
Speaker 2:ocean. I know, dude, you got the river or the ocean whatever right there come on man, that's like where you get like Saps.
Speaker 3:The link with the gun goes.
Speaker 4:What are you doing?
Speaker 3:man, they won't find that. Be there, that's good.
Speaker 2:They never complained about my cigarette butts are not gonna complain about a head.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna leave that alone. That'll burn the evidence.
Speaker 2:Maybe, maybe. Well, at this point Joey's in the clear. Like Joey's great. Like all the attentions on this crazy bitch, he remained safe and sound and way out of harm's way. The focus was on fatal attraction. Prostitute Amy, not good old family man.
Speaker 3:Joey, but PDG, is he an accessory now to attempted murder, or is he like being charged for procuring the gun and all that other stuff, or Eventually I'm okay.
Speaker 2:I mean, I'm sure he admitted to procuring a gun for Amy and this was a hot gun, this was yeah.
Speaker 3:That's what I mean, like the hot gun, and then he's driving her like a hot gun today, you're that's like jail five years, like automatic or something like that You'll be surprised.
Speaker 1:I'll be surprised when you find out what he.
Speaker 4:Oh, you'll be surprised.
Speaker 2:I'm surprised, yeah, so this poor chick and I say I use that term tongue-in-cheek $2 million is a lot of money. So she's just sitting there rotten in jail waiting for her trial. Yeah, dad's like I got that on it's like no you got yourself.
Speaker 2:It is, I'm not paying two million dollars on bond to get you out. But after more than two months in jail, amy miraculously made bail. It was secured for her by KLM Productions. That's KLM productions who paid it in exchange for exclusive rights to her story. I mean, that's a pretty sweet deal. Yeah, it's like, look, we'll get you out of jail, but look, we are the exclusive ones, because I hear a year or two from now, you know, I'm thinking we're gonna get. Who can we get? Probably Alyssa Milano. Yeah, fuck it, let's get her right. Shit we got. We're doing those stories.
Speaker 1:Wonder how they make all that money back on. I mean I guess with advertisers and stuff. But that just seems like so much money you got to recoup well that when you put no one, oh, I should say, let me take that back. If you put up two million dollars for bail, yep, okay, they use that money just to hold correct, so you get it back to correct yeah you don't lose the two million. So they're putting it up just for the rights and they're not losing two million.
Speaker 2:They'll get it, assuming she doesn't skip bail. Yes, if you go back, yeah she skips, if she misses a parole hearing, or if she which is essentially skipping out on bail, or if she goes missing. That money stays that money is, yeah, it's out of their pot. It's gone.
Speaker 3:That is now the government's yeah, the state's one, yep.
Speaker 2:Hmm, well, a week after Amy made bail, mary Jo, but a Foucault filed suit against Amy Fisher, pdg and Amy's parents. That's what got OJ to mm-hmm.
Speaker 4:I.
Speaker 2:It, yeah it, the glove did not fit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you get. All that always bothered me about our judicial system. How's that? No, like where you go, like a civil suit can always end. It always bites you in the ass. Yeah, you're. You know you're in front of a jury. You know 12 people find you not guilty for what you've just been, you know in in a court hearing for whatever. This could go on for months.
Speaker 3:You're found not guilty and then then you have a civil trial, then you still have a civil trial out, where they're just trying to get basically a payout, pretty much, and then, like in the civil trial, they're always found guilty. Yeah, like well, where was this?
Speaker 2:It's good, it's the. It's the level of preponderance of evidence.
Speaker 3:No is civil, the civil trial. Is that just with the judge right, that's no jury. Or is that also a jury for a civil trial? I don't know, we might have to jw phone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, please get jw in on that cuz. Yeah it just, I'm no attorney. Yeah, I'll have to ask jw on it might know there's juries involved, cuz when I hear things like juries awarded this and juries awarded that, but is that in the criminal?
Speaker 3:That's in the criminal shit, I think the civil is just in front of a judge and the judge is the one. It's already heard all this stuff from the damn court cases.
Speaker 2:Like man, this dude's so guilty this dude, this dude with the one glove.
Speaker 3:Anyway, I mean she was, she was guilty of this, amy Fisher.
Speaker 1:Well as allegedly so the judge showed up that jersey on, but dad be fantastic, but oh, Jay, you really don't know.
Speaker 3:I mean, you really don't know, you don't, you don't even know.
Speaker 2:I don't know one, as I mean I don't know, I don't know one glove Lucky just to have just one glove. Thank you, matt, for picking that up. Thank you All right, but man, that was good.
Speaker 3:harmony, yeah, you got it.
Speaker 2:So, as you had mentioned, this could have gone on for months, months, if not years. Well, like this podcast, no trial necessary, real quick.
Speaker 2:This episode yeah no trial necessary, facing the potential of a maximum of 50 years in prison Good Lord, 50 years for attempted murder in the second degree, criminal use of a firearm in the first degree, armed felony assault and other charges. Amy's lawyers had a trick up his sleeve. Instead of going to trial, amy accepted a plea bargain of five to 15 years in prison in exchange for dropping a dime on Joey. Oh, they were investigating him for some shit. I mean, this guy wasn't squeaky.
Speaker 3:No, he was not. But I mean, was it like, well, I mean he owned that or he didn't own the complete auto body repair shop? His dad did.
Speaker 1:I think he had, he did have part of it.
Speaker 2:I think he had bought out like part of it, or was like a tax evasion type thing, or I got a feeling in all of this that Amy had said well, look, there's this, but he does this bad and he does this. He like he. He skims things out, he gets fake insurance claims or he knows how to do this out of the other thing, or he's a scam artist or he does all this other shit again. Like I'm thinking like maybe insurance fraud or Some other shit, like he's doing some real dirty shit at that shop.
Speaker 3:And then the they're also looking at him as being grimy too for having an affair with a 16, 15, 16 year old girl. He's banged so he could have put any kind of influence on her. She was the one like oh you know, he had his hair slick back, He'd smell like grease and he was getting all worked up and they're like this guy's taking advantage of her. I get it.
Speaker 2:I get it so greasy drop the dime on him so sexy. Well, poor Amy. Two days after the plea deal, the television show hard copy aired a video Secretly recorded by our friend Paul Makley. The day before Amy accepted the plea deal, what did she say? Hey, well, as chance would have it, paul had visited her in prison. During their conversation, amy stated she wanted a Ferrari as payment for all she'd gone through and that she hoped Paul would marry her so she could have conjugal visits guys look at doors.
Speaker 3:Good like this, yeah, that's something a teenager would say.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean Like.
Speaker 2:So yeah, that I guess I guess Paul asked the question like gosh, you know If you could have anything. You know after all of this, after all you've been through, and the right answer is I wish this stuff would have never happened or I would just I want to go Away or I want to disappear so nobody ever sees me. Her answer is well, I want a Ferrari because I've been through a lot of shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you ask, like 16 year old Dave, like what I want to Porsche, like a Porsche or Ferrari? Ask you know, dave, 10 years later it's like I like that three row SUV being nice. Toyota Highlander yeah, pretty Land Cruiser would be nice, or you know nice, something with utility, just like that says, tells you like something with good towing capacity right right, I mean she's 17 years old or 18. She's a child, right, right? This is.
Speaker 3:Paul Mekli guy thought ahead though. He was kind of like you know what, I'm protecting myself, I'm gonna and I'm gonna get some money out of this.
Speaker 2:You got copies gonna give me some money. I think it was 10,000, hell yeah yeah look, 10 grand and 92 is some good money.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that guy's like. I didn't have 10 grand 10 minutes ago, that's right, 10 grand is 10 grand. Shit. Yeah, five bucks is five bucks hell, yeah, yeah with grill marks.
Speaker 2:Well, in October 1992 the Nassau County DA's publicly stated that they would not prosecute Joey Bonifuco as they didn't have enough evidence against him to make a case.
Speaker 3:Hey bro, Good cherry.
Speaker 2:Which tells me that they gave up the 50 years they could have had on Amy. They gave that up for nothing, pretty much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, get something out of it.
Speaker 2:Yep, they got nothing out of it. Then, in December of 92, amy was sentenced to 15 years in prison, which is a hell of a lot less than 50, right. So she could get out and do something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when you're that young, that's not that bad.
Speaker 3:That was for the firearm, All right. What did? They convicted her of pretty much everything. Yeah, that was. That was just the plea deal for deal. Yeah, all in all in.
Speaker 2:And then in a couple months later, in February 93, old PDG Peter Gojenti was sentenced to Six months in jail for obtaining the gun for Amy. It's not bad six months.
Speaker 1:I think, I think, I think you might only serve like four months, six, you know what I mean. So wasn't? It was like nothing?
Speaker 3:But for him even, but even with the getaway car, telling her to go back and get the shit like they were. Like We'll let that slide just go get the gun?
Speaker 2:Yeah, or was it go get the gun, bitch I?
Speaker 1:mean, that's what good lawyers will get, you know, I mean exactly, they got good lawyers and and they don't want, they want just this shit to be over with. So a lot of times I'll just like, hey, at least we got him on something and let's end it.
Speaker 3:This sounds crooked too, but a lot of them lawyers with pool and like big cases like this. They they like having their name out there like well, I got the guy six months.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it looks good on you.
Speaker 3:It looks good on it for everybody, right, right?
Speaker 2:Now I got a feeling that Amy Fisher didn't have OJ money, so it's not like she had a dream team. But I wonder, I wonder, whoever who her attorney was it if he ended up becoming like somebody popular because, hey, I represented Amy Fisher. I got her down from 50 to 15.
Speaker 1:Yeah right, I'm not sure I Wanted to ask you about something about I don't know, somebody involved with it wasn't a Kardashian. No, but something involved with her that when they went back to trial Later on, something came out about. I don't know if it was a lawyer or who it was. Do you have anything on that? Like there was something appropriate, maybe, or back to trial.
Speaker 2:Back to trial for what? Yeah would you mean that are you referring to? In the same month as old PDG's Sentencing, that's February of 93, only a few months after the Nassau County DA publicly stated they would not prosecute Joey. Mm-hmm that the Nassau County DA's office Reopened their case against Joey. But a Foucault.
Speaker 1:Well, not that, but later on I think, dang, I'll wait till the end.
Speaker 2:You got you're, you're going to future fitness here. Yeah, future physique.
Speaker 3:Maybe that's why he wasn't charged the first time, because I could figure out they got more on them one more time.
Speaker 2:Despite being a harlot, an Escort, a prostitute, as it were, amy was in fact a minor at the time of her and Joey's sex Coupade. Oh, this is where Amy would go on to tell her side of the story of Joey. But a Foucault which included hotel receipts. Did you either of you guys see that like? Yeah Listen, I am no criminal. But I can tell you, and I've said this over and over and over again Do not bring ink and paper into this cash man yeah, you're leaving a, yeah, you sign a false name.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm, I Do what like the like rock stars do. Man Just put like any names yeah.
Speaker 2:So the hotels they had gone to, or the hotel they had gone to. Joey does whatever he does and he's signing on these receipts when he's there, short Joey. But if you go, short Joey, but if you go, all Amy has to do is name some dates that she was at a hotel with Joey. Go to the hotel record. Sure enough, there's the receipts. Fuck you, joey, we got you Joey, we idiot. Yeah, he's a real idiot. So Joey, now in flagrante de lector, could soon come to be indicted on 19 count, 19 counts of statutory rape, sodomy and engaging I'm sorry, endangering the welfare of a child more counts than she has years on earth was that thing you said.
Speaker 1:Sodomy, no statutory rape.
Speaker 3:No, before that you said in Friday Conducto.
Speaker 2:I was in the flagrante de lector book of the dead.
Speaker 3:Yes, no, I thought that was a place I took my wife for anniversary. I got, I got some banging calamari there flagrante de lector.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I didn't. Lebanon, yeah, full grante de lector.
Speaker 2:It's like a different version of bananas foster.
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah it's delicious.
Speaker 2:They like. They like your dinner on fire.
Speaker 3:But it was a great place to eat.
Speaker 2:I highly like plantains, so in flagrante de lector basically means caught in the act that your, your Flagrant flood grante, so you are busted like there's no chance.
Speaker 3:I know it was between that place and Dorsey is I Couldn't get a good evasion Couldn't get a rest.
Speaker 2:Nope, all right. So after all of this, though initially pleading not guilty and proclaiming his innocence, joey soon changed his tune. He changed his pleaded guilty on one count of statutory rape. Joey went on to serve six months in jail. That's it now I'm gonna do that one more time in a summary 19, 19 counts of statutory rape, sodomy and endangering the welfare of the child To which he pled guilty, to one count of statutory. And he for even just one count of statutory, he served six months in jail.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how is that possible? Everybody's getting off easy shit, yeah, except a whole day long yeah right, or maybe Amy's presence was, or Her presence.
Speaker 2:Maybe Amy's sentence wasn't so bad 15 out of 50 possible.
Speaker 1:You know I'm saying yeah, so you're saying all these did she serve 15 maybe?
Speaker 3:All these receipts? Those were all at times that she was 16, right, she wasn't quite 17, correct?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so they would have to been correct.
Speaker 3:It would have had to have been when she was not of 17 right, so yeah so those 19 counts were all times that he had receipts for when she was underage and you figure, okay she's.
Speaker 1:According to her, their first time together was a month before she was 17 and they were meeting like twice a week shit. Yeah, so if not more so. All those counts by having in that month could have you know. Well, they would have all had to if that number is accurate as far as, like she's saying, that was their first.
Speaker 2:Although maybe 19 is the sum of all of the statutory rapes, all of the blowjobs, all of the butt-dubs and all of the endangering.
Speaker 3:So is that, like, is that through interviews, do they say well, how did you? Do? They ask, like, how did you have sex?
Speaker 1:And that's what we talked about before, like how many no?
Speaker 3:I'm saying, is that where the sodomy charge comes from? She was like yeah, we did, you know?
Speaker 1:I had, we did the butt of Foucault.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they were like yeah that's, that's the charge, yeah so that makes sense. So okay, you went to a hotel this day and what happened?
Speaker 4:that day Well he.
Speaker 2:We had sex, which, okay, statutory rate because I wasn't of the age of consent to, I gave me handy or, I'm sorry, a blowy J.
Speaker 1:Okay, they'll call that sodomy, although in my I know, yeah, we saw me as far as.
Speaker 2:I'm concerned is but sex. That's not a blowjob, right? So okay, fine, they had. Then they had but sex. That's account number two plus whatever. I think it depends what your definition of sex is, I did not have sex with that woman, miss Monica Lewis, that's what.
Speaker 3:I'm saying, yeah, like I think sex. I think I think the statutory rate would be the oral sex, or is that, like you said, with the sodomy is the oral?
Speaker 2:It could have been either it could have been either, or it could have been just in the butt.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what I'm probably like the the cops are probably. They didn't say it that way, they were just probably like you know a little, and then they were like it. What else happened?
Speaker 1:right, she was probably, like you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, the old corn press, yeah, the old corn the old cornhole.
Speaker 3:not talking about the game, no well, good for good for Amy.
Speaker 2:There is a shining light to this whole thing. So that went down in 92 after so sentenced to 15 years. After only seven years, amy was released from prison in 1999, so she partied like it was 1999. She sure did I gotta believe her that New Year's Eve was amazing yeah, the most amazing New Year's Eve she ever had. That was awesome. She ended up becoming a columnist for the Long Island Press. She married a guy named Lou Ballera in 2003, with you know, you know, friend of yours.
Speaker 2:Lou Ballera. Yeah, that sounds like a. That sounds like a poor name in and of itself.
Speaker 3:So he bear, she made a fitness gym. Come to Lou Ballera's fitness for, like, old people.
Speaker 2:Like white hair balleris biceps.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you got like white hair like a big gold chain. He does come to Lou Ballera's Tuesdays. Oh, you can eat and drink and fitness. That's Lou Ballera, I don't know, it sounds like him and cigarettes, and cigarettes.
Speaker 2:So she married Lou in o3 with, with whom she would go on to have three children. Oh, but alas, not. But 12 years later they divorced in 2015. Oh, she did release an autobiography in 2004, titled, if I only knew that Joey was 38, now 16. She left the Long Island Press in 2005. She appeared alongside Mary Jo but a Foucault in 2006 on entertainment tonight and the insider.
Speaker 3:See what a payout on that like come on making bank.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is where, I believe in our previous episode, the question was asked Was it Joey's influence? Was it Amy, like, who was telling the truth? Mm-hmm, it was during the Interview on. The insider heard the second one that she had finally said at the end Joey had nothing to do with the. The whole plan was mine, the whole time whole thing was okay she admitted to it. Yeah, she later appeared alongside Joey Joey himself in 2006 for the coin toss at the lingerie bowl. You guys remember that they still do that.
Speaker 3:I think they they don't think they have a league Son, but that those girls aren't in lingerie.
Speaker 2:Whoa the lingerie league.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, it's similar. The girls are thing yeah.
Speaker 3:That's legal, yeah, oh yeah, shit, yeah, I think in only 38 states. I think a couple couple have not not joined the. I see it like. I see it like and Guam.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've seen like clips and stuff they still play like the girls are wearing, like you know, real Almost like thongs and like pretty.
Speaker 3:I don't know that they're really. Yeah, I don't know like being tackled, though, like the brushburn gotta be intense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know it's is a tackler. Is it like flag foot? No, it's tackle no they are, they all lubed up.
Speaker 1:No, I don't think so. I mean it's again on the on the YouTube.
Speaker 2:Yeah check it out. I gotta check my whole lingerie league.
Speaker 1:I'm in it real quick before we get to the one get a coach to the it's never real quick, I never really cool, so she was. What I was gonna talk talk about was she was released in 2009, like you said no, she was released in, Sorry, yeah sorry.
Speaker 1:She was released in 1999, like you said. Yep, mary Joe was a big part of her getting out. She had written a, she had written a letter basically saying she served enough, enough time, like she. She had written, wrote a note to Mary Joe basically saying, hey, I'm sorry, you know, I know what I did was wrong and all this stuff. And Then they found out she had a new Lawyer come in, I guess, and there was somebody that was I don't know if it was her lawyer or somebody involved in the first case that there was something inappropriate stuff going on, maybe. And they were like, hey, you got to throw this case out I'm, instead of going through trial again and doing all that. They were just like, hey, why don't we just end the sentence here and we'll be done with it? Another, like these other people where they're just kind of Shortening the sentence and getting it over with a waste in time on More court court time in court cases.
Speaker 1:We're just gonna let her out.
Speaker 2:That's a wild as hell fun fact.
Speaker 1:I had no idea about that and Mary Joe actually showed up and vouched for her, like let her out. So if the person you tried to kill was saying, look, they've served enough time, let them out, they're probably gonna get out.
Speaker 3:She was probably feeling bad too, because she knew her husband was an asshole.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, they got divorced shortly after Every one time there's no one that's getting shot and pistol whipped and shot in the face that feels bad about the person that did it to them. Shouldn't be. This is a very giving woman, jesus, whatever.
Speaker 3:Forgive them.
Speaker 2:He never had that sweet, sweet Amy Fisher love. Yeah, even Jesus himself would pistol whip.
Speaker 3:Mary Jo, that's part two of the Bible.
Speaker 1:But what they were saying is that her trial the first one should have been thrown out.
Speaker 2:On the seventh day, the Lord rested with Amy Fisher.
Speaker 3:That's it. No, but I think Mary Jo was like you know. Yeah, she could see how much like she probably, I don't know Time heals all wounds. Yes, it does.
Speaker 2:Dave, I feel bad. I feel like I cut you off there with the Jesus thing.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, you're good, I was just saying like I thought that was wild, that.
Speaker 2:That's bananas, is what that is.
Speaker 1:That she and that I don't know what was going on with the lawyer or whoever it was. They didn't really say.
Speaker 3:Was Amy Fisher sleeping with the lawyer?
Speaker 1:They didn't say that. They just said that Maybe it was just a blow job. They didn't say any of that, but it was something where they were like they said, her representation was tarnished, Like there was something that happened or something that was going on. I was like, look, none of this, all that stuff from the first trial needs to be thrown out. She needs a new trial and they're like we're not doing that. She's already been in for 12 years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, seven.
Speaker 1:I was only seven at that point.
Speaker 2:So yeah, 92 to 99.
Speaker 1:Okay, so seven years, like all right, that's enough, we're just done. We'll let her out and be done with it. Nice, yeah, that's fantastic. That's good justice, right there.
Speaker 2:And now to the fun stuff. That's the American way, oh speaking.
Speaker 3:Thank you Shows how crooked are our real judicial system.
Speaker 2:There's no crookedness at all.
Speaker 1:Now I'm going to shine with my expertise. Let's get to the next thing, okay, so?
Speaker 3:here's some Shinal and crazy diamond All right.
Speaker 2:So only a few years later, after they're appearing with Joey Bonifucco for the coin toss at the lingerie bowl, she released a pay-per-view porno movie titled Amy Fisher, totally nude and exposed in January of 2009.
Speaker 3:When it just porno wrapped that up like she had to add that. You know what would be a good idea if I was totally nude and exposed in my own porno.
Speaker 2:I think she had to use the term exposed to try to tap into the fact of her having gone through. You know, the judicial system, the everything gone through trial and prison.
Speaker 3:They put her through so much, I think.
Speaker 1:AI wrote it like the title. She put it in there, I am sure.
Speaker 2:I wonder if AI wrote the next one. The next year she released a porno movie deep inside Amy Fisher. That was in September of 2010.
Speaker 1:Right. Both available online, I'm sure.
Speaker 2:Promise you? I would guess. I can neither confirm nor deny, but I've since erased my browser history.
Speaker 3:but yes, they are out there. Why do you have to be deep inside Amy Fisher? Why couldn't it just been inside Amy?
Speaker 1:Fisher, just a tip.
Speaker 3:Or just the tip in Amy Fisher.
Speaker 2:Again, these are people that wanna know the story, the true story.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 3:I wanna get Titanic on Amy Fisher's head. This is ridiculous.
Speaker 2:This is so ridiculous. All right, so enough about Amy. Now on to Joey. Where are they now? So, after this all went down, joey moved to LA after his release from prison, which again was only six months, that was 92, so he was arrested in 1995 for soliciting sex for another couple of days.
Speaker 3:Come on, joey, come on, man Posing as a prostitut. He liked the hookers man.
Speaker 2:Can't leave it go yeah. A few years later, he appeared in an episode of celebrity boxing in May 2002, where he fought and won against Joni China Lauer.
Speaker 3:Now I know you guys remember that right. Yeah boxing time.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. I remember celebrity boxing. I remember China from. I mean.
Speaker 4:I'm not WWF. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she is now dead.
Speaker 2:She is dead and I certainly remember this episode of celebrity boxing.
Speaker 3:What was that on MTV? Was it celebrity death?
Speaker 1:match. That's not true. Do you guys remember that Absolutely, or like claymation or whatever?
Speaker 3:But I do have a fun fact on that event, that pay-per-view event with the boxing.
Speaker 2:Shoot, what do you?
Speaker 3:got Weird. Al Jankovic was first approached for that pay-per-view event. To fight about a food? Yes to fight, no to fight China, china.
Speaker 1:Oh, for real.
Speaker 3:And then Adam Corolla was also. You guys remember him from MTV.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Adam Corolla, the comedian he was also approached.
Speaker 3:He was like hell, no.
Speaker 2:Get your ass beat. What I had read and Matt is absolutely correct, and both said no. Both said no for the same reason they didn't believe that fighting a woman on television would further their careers.
Speaker 3:It would be a hinder instead of a help. They probably would lose. But if you're like I need some money, man, I'll do whatever you need.
Speaker 2:She was big, like she was big. China would kick all of our asses together.
Speaker 3:No, but remember Budafuco put a whooping tour pretty good.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:He's a big dude. He was not a small guy.
Speaker 2:He ended up winning by a, not a TKO, it was a win by decision. All of the judges were tied, except like one or two.
Speaker 1:Oh, he didn't knock her out then.
Speaker 3:No, no, no. So it wasn't another love TKO. You remember the?
Speaker 1:scene what you don't know, that song, no Love, tko Love.
Speaker 3:TKO. No thanks, oh man great song.
Speaker 2:A year after that, 11 years after the whole everything went down, joey divorced yeah, joey divorced Mary Jo uh Budafuco in 2003. After 26 years of marriage what 26 years? It's all right. Joey stayed busy. He was charged with auto insurance fraud in 2004. After instructing undercover investigators how to file false insurance claim, and he was sentenced to a year in prison.
Speaker 3:This guy is so freaking dumb you would say why is he always? Going Like you can't tell all that time, you can't tell what an undercover prostitute would be, you can't tell these guys. Could you say that again, joey? Yeah, oh, really, you can't hear me, joey, could you?
Speaker 1:say that again Right here.
Speaker 3:Lean closer to my chest, Joey.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's got a pod mic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like, come on, man, let's see. So he served a year in prison, got out of prison. Finally, he was charged and found guilty of possession of ammunition, which for any three of us is fine, but Not for a prisoner, not for a convicted felon. Yes, as a result of that, he served three and a half months in jail and was released in late April 2007.
Speaker 1:And my wife's uncle my uncle as well. Just a fun fact If you go on a trip at an airport, don't take your hunting bag and then use it to put your clothes in or anything you're going to pack. He left ammunition in there, like in one of the pockets, and forgot about it. So they were going to get checked through at TSA and they found ammunition and they were like, yeah, you know. So I mean, they just told him he had to take the stuff out.
Speaker 1:But, yeah, don't want to do that. Yeah, don't do that.
Speaker 3:Check what's in your bag, Like Dave said. Another public service announcement is ZappLix, to mention. If you're going to do one thing wrong, don't do two, three, four at a time.
Speaker 2:If you're going to do anything illegal, don't do any more than one at a time. So it was funny.
Speaker 3:Last night, coming back from the Bacon Brothers show, I was driving through, getting through Hershey there and there was like the yellow light and I sped up and went through and Megan's like oh my god, there's a cop right there. I didn't have anything to drink so I was kind of like you know what I mean. I was like, ah, I don't give it, what's it going to do? Pull me over. Were you drinking the night, sir? No, all right, you mind license registration, have a talk with the cop. Cop would have been like yeah, go ahead, have a good night. Hey, we just saw the Bacon Brothers, kevin freaking Bacon. You know what I mean. So yeah, don't, ever, if you're going to be drinking, and you know you've had like five, six, you don't go running through the yellow light.
Speaker 1:With a tail light out, yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:You just just be careful what you're doing.
Speaker 1:Just throw your keys out.
Speaker 3:That doesn't work, that's hilarious.
Speaker 2:Who taught us that box does no, sir. I wasn't driving Fun fact, yes, not, but two weeks into their affair, two weeks who?
Speaker 3:Joey and Amy's Amy and Joey's Amy got herpes from Joey, the gift that keeps on giving the whole life.
Speaker 1:So how does that work? Like she's, she has her.
Speaker 3:Well, they had sex. No, no, no, I know that.
Speaker 2:And then, and then they, I get all that I get all that, but I don't get herpes part like how do you go on being a sex worker with herpes?
Speaker 1:Well, not only that, but like then later on, like this I don't think there's checks, but no, no, no. But my point is is that like this Lou guy, now anybody she's with, now you know she has herpes. So as soon as you sign up, they're like do stuff, you're getting get herpes, right? Or is there like a?
Speaker 2:Again, I'm no, I was thinking about that too, and I am no scientist, but I thought you had to be in the outbreak phase of herpes.
Speaker 3:To get them to pass, to be able to convey herpes Like it's.
Speaker 2:so don't like. You get pimples right, you get cold sores. You get whatever Cold sores herpes, a cold sores herpes. So when you don't have a cold sore, you still have the propensity, let's say, to get a cold sore.
Speaker 1:It's just not there.
Speaker 2:It's just not there. So again, I'm no scientist and I would love for somebody to mail back this, but I think there's something about the herpes that goes dormant when you don't have, when one doesn't have an outbreak.
Speaker 1:Herpes aren't flaring up. You're good to go.
Speaker 2:And the news tells me that maybe he had a couple of pimples old. You know, joey fat one had a you know a couple of pimples down there and as he's bumping uglies with Amy, you know whatever kind of ooze he was had coming out of him wiped itself onto her. Did she have to have a?
Speaker 3:cut, I don't know. Or does it just go because the is it the innards?
Speaker 2:Like I'm no scientist again, but it could just be juices touching juices.
Speaker 3:Should we have learned this in high school, Like shouldn't we know these facts?
Speaker 2:No, in high school we weren't supposed to have sex. They never told us about it. We saw videos of people dying like if you have sex, if you have premarital sex, your head will explode and you will die right there and your parents will know, and they will know, and Jesus will show up at your doorstep and shoot you in the head.
Speaker 3:It's like Amy Fisher Like who is it? Oh shit, it's Jesus. God damn it.
Speaker 2:I told you not to have sex. I told you what are you thinking? You messed up. So again, no scientist, but somehow he conveyed herpes to herp and while that happens all of the fucking time, I really do think you need to be in that.
Speaker 3:So you'd be able to see before you would have the sex Correct. You'd be like, oh, there's something going on down there Flaring off? Yeah, I'm not gonna spread it, like when you're seeing and they make drugs for that shit.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm sure they do. That's that's what I'm saying. Like if, like, say, later in life she marries this guy and you know she's got herpes, like, and I don't have it, let's say the guy, um, is there a way to, I guess, outside of wearing a condom? She probably don't want to do that when you're married all the time.
Speaker 3:Well, they had three children. I mean, they were, you know, you want to go raw.
Speaker 2:But are the kids born with herpes? No mother.
Speaker 3:What if the mother has an outbreak while she's having the baby? Can the baby get like eye herpes? I don't know.
Speaker 1:Now, with AI, this episode is going to be called herpes and Amy Fisher, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:We're going to do our whole. Next episode will be on herpes.
Speaker 2:How to prevent them.
Speaker 3:What to do if you have them.
Speaker 2:If, uh, if someone has the AIDS and they have a kid, there's a kid at the age of three.
Speaker 3:There's a kid having but the AIDS is like, that's like a cold now, like you see all the fricking commercials I saw a magic Johnson had a fucking basketball game the other night.
Speaker 2:He was at. He was at a Duke Michigan State, so he's a Michigan state, so he was at a Duke Michigan State basketball game and there he is sitting up there with his uh God, it's a Arsenio Hall, it's not GQ, it's some other Q in the name of it. Oh, um, in the.
Speaker 1:Qbert in the clothing you mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's you, or maybe it's D and G. It's not a Q, it's D.
Speaker 1:Don't you go on, he's wearing it, that's.
Speaker 2:It's not a Q. So he's wearing a D and G sweatshirt and he's just sitting up there to smiley smiley Mr Billionaire himself Magic Johnson, right, who has apparently a magic Johnson that he can get.
Speaker 4:AIDS and nothing happens.
Speaker 1:He can get AIDS and then not have AIDS. Yeah, that's what your pal has that whole bit like called calling to work. I'm not going to be in. My AIDS is acting up today. Well, they had that Did you guys?
Speaker 3:did you guys see the South Park episode where they showed what the cure for AIDS was? No, they showed a magic Johnson. He would, he would like back up this car and he had all this money in it and they'd like grind the money up and they'd like inject it back into.
Speaker 2:That's fucking fantastic.
Speaker 4:Yeah that's how you do it.
Speaker 3:He was like oh man oh, there it is, it works. It does work Money, and money is a strange thing.
Speaker 2:There was another fun fact I had. I'll just get this one out here really quickly. I know we had spoken of the. Three of us were talking, probably off the air, about the story of the air.
Speaker 4:I like that.
Speaker 2:Joey Budafuco and his involvement with the Howard Stern show. Yes, or the whole story and it's involvement with the Howard Stern show. Again, this is back in the nineties. This is back when he was still on terrestrial radio. I stopped listening to him when he went went on.
Speaker 3:When he went to pay for view.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is just within weeks of her bail hearing, of Amy's bail hearing, just a couple of weeks after again, this Joey thinking he's completely on the. You know he's off the hook completely. He had actually called the Stern show to further declare his innocence.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cause some guy called in on that episode of the stern and was saying like oh, I'm his pool guy and I saw them having lunch and doing stuff and whatever. And he's listening to this. Joey's listening on the air, you know, he hears it live and he's like I don't even have a pool, so he calls the Stern show the fuck out of you. Yeah, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2:You're fucking out of you.
Speaker 1:So he calls and gets through. He's like hey, this is the real. And the guy is asking him questions and make sure it's the real guy. And he's like yeah, I guess this is so they patch him through. And then he had that interview with Howard but it was all based on, like somebody calling in and making up a story.
Speaker 2:So that was pretty wild, joey, but a foco, please stand up.
Speaker 1:One other thing too Real quick. Yeah, here we go, real quick.
Speaker 3:No, we're not saying that anymore. Did you know? Did you know fun?
Speaker 1:fun fact, fun fact. Okay. So we talked about the time she went to Mary Joe's house and shot her and attempted a murder.
Speaker 2:That was the time, for sure.
Speaker 1:Did you know? There was a time before that that she went to her house. I did not. So there was a gentleman that she befriended and initially was going to do this crime, like six months or a year earlier I forget what the timeframe was, but it was before it actually went down. She had showed up with this guy and they had bought candy bars at a grocery store and she had brought these candy bars and was basically posing as a door to door like hey, I'm from Massa Piqua High School.
Speaker 3:That was in the movie right.
Speaker 1:It was in, but it was in real life too. It happened because they went back and tied it all together and that's how they were able to say it was premeditated and all that. So she went and was like I'm selling these candy bars for Massa Piqua High School and the guy she had hiding around the corner with the gun waiting.
Speaker 3:He got scared yeah.
Speaker 1:She was like waving him over and he didn't come. And then Mary Joe was like, nah, you know, we have enough candy. This is a day after Halloween, it was November 1st. And then Mary Joe went in, finally gave in. She was like, oh, whatever, I'll give you a dollar for the candy bars or whatever she was I think it was a dollar she was charging gave her the dollar, took the candy bar, brought it inside, flipped it over. There was a grocery sticker there 59 cents. She was like, oh, they fucking, they scammed me. You know what I mean. So at that point she's thinking to just use kids scamming to get money. Well, it comes back later on they come to ask her, the police and stuff. Hey, do you remember a girl coming here selling candy bars? And she's like yeah, how'd you know that? And she's like that was Amy. She didn't put two and two together, it was the same girl, that's so that happened.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Later Then she realized Well, wait a minute. She's been planning this for like at least six months, maybe a year.
Speaker 2:We call that premeditated, although in my affinity for the English language I would just call it meditated.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know how you meditate before you meditate.
Speaker 2:Premeditate, that's like pre heat, pre cook, pre whatever. No, just call it the fucking word.
Speaker 1:That guy's name before yeah.
Speaker 2:How do I turn my oven on? Before I turn my oven on, what the fuck is pre heat? Go fuck yourself.
Speaker 1:That guy's name was Steve Sleemman.
Speaker 3:People are just dumb People just say shit to make shit up.
Speaker 2:They make it up.
Speaker 1:Stephen Sleemman was the guy's name, not even real name.
Speaker 2:Sleemman, yeah, sleemman, good old Sleemman, stephen. Hey guys, can you wrap it up? Her timing is perfect. How does she know how to do that? Thank you, I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's almost like it's easy.
Speaker 3:Come on, what's it that bad? No, no, I was thinking her for letting us know we could have been here for another day.
Speaker 2:I'm just glad she's not coming down here and shooting us in the face. That's right.
Speaker 1:It's almost like it's a magic button or something. But yeah, that was a good one man. That was really fun to cover.
Speaker 2:It's a good trip down memory lane.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like, for me that was all like we were about the same age as Amy. Like I said, when this went down, I remember thinking like she's sleeping with a 36 year old. Like, oh my God, Like thinking like, then you become 36. Now I'm 10 years plus past that and I'm like, oh, that's young, you know, it's just crazy how like to meet. But looking at Joey Buttafugo, too, like watching the movie, like he looked older. Yeah, we always talk about that with movies and stuff like that he was a little rugged For sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was using alcohol based skin products.
Speaker 1:Yeah, fire thrower.
Speaker 2:For me, I loved going back to just remembering all of those trashy, shitty shows and how poorly put together they were. But now I realize, and I don't- watch what they made for TV movies. I don't watch much television anymore, but the amount of trashy shit that's out there now is just unbelievable.
Speaker 3:Yeah, role housewives of this, and that, oh my God, all of this is terrible. Oh, you mean just like shit television, trash TV, yeah.
Speaker 1:Listen to podcasts. That's where it's at.
Speaker 2:That's what's up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, matt, you got anything in closing.
Speaker 3:No, just like you said, good trip down memory lane. I'm surprised by the food. Could be a charge for murder. All them shots to Amy's face.
Speaker 2:Top shelf. Sir, well played, thank you.
Speaker 1:I'm here all night. Did you know those two got back together later on? What?
Speaker 3:Yeah, like a hookup or just like a no, they were on.
Speaker 1:TV holding hands together, and they were like hey, we're getting back together when was that in the fun fact?
Speaker 3:I didn't know that, yeah. Or was it just to try to get more money, or like?
Speaker 1:I don't know if it was a publicity stunt or anything like that. But if you look online I'll show you guys when we're done here. There's a video of them like together, like in there, like oh, I think we always had true love. It was always meant to be, and they're like kissing and making out and this and that, yeah. So they were doing a lot of shit here down the road to try to tromb up, make money and state relevant and stuff.
Speaker 2:But who's to say Look, man, if you have Brett Michaels and he goes into that house with all of those chicks after he's burned out from you know, washed out from poison, he goes on to that show with the Brett Michaels sex house or whatever the hell. It was Right, these two could absolutely do the same. In fact, I read something somewhere that after Amy divorced her husband, lou Lou yeah, who's Lou? After she divorced Lou, joey broke up with his at the time girlfriend because he had already been divorced years earlier. Right, and I think it's a great talk that those two get together to do some kind of celebrity fighting, boxing or something.
Speaker 2:Boxing or one of those things where, like, you're living in basically like real world, but just celebrity couples like those two living together in the same house for a bit. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, there was a video of those two going at it like in a pre fight thing and it was like UFC Nice, and then that Lou guy swings on him and like, hits him in the face and they end up in a tussle and it was all like for publicity and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:But who knows, it reminded me of the Chappelle real world episode. If anybody gets a chance. You need to see that Chappelle is the best.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's so funny the best. Yeah, maybe someday we'll have him on. Wouldn't that be awesome?
Speaker 3:Yes, please.
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Speaker 2:On the flip side If we don't see you sooner, we'll see you later, please.
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