Strap on your headbands and crane-kick into nostalgia because Dave, Matt, and Zap are whisking you away to 1984 with a retro rewind, unpacking 'The Karate Kid' in all its glory. Relive the iconic moments that shaped a generation, from Ralph Macchio's unforgettable portrayal of Daniel LaRusso to the timeless wisdom of Mr. Miyagi, as we delve into their defining impact on '80s pop culture. Feel the rhythm of our shared memories and find out how 'Cobra Kai' is keeping the karate chop alive for new fans, all while we drop some behind-the-scenes gems and ponder the 'what-ifs' of Hollywood casting.
Get ready to pop your collar and dust off those Vuarnet shades as we cruise down memory lane, exploring the trends and tech that had us all trying to be as cool as the '80s movie stars we admired. Listen in to hear tales of BMX shenanigans and parachute pants, and how the culture of 'The Karate Kid' parallels our own high school dramas and dirt bike escapades. Our chapter summaries will make you laugh, reminisce, and maybe even cringe a little at the fashion faux pas we thought were so hot back in the day.
Finish off by pulling up a bean bag chair and settling into the old, dirty basement as we muse over Ralph Macchio's career trajectory and the eerie Hollywood trend of 'frogging.' From celebrity privacy boundaries to the charm of American film history, we've got it all. Whether you're here for the '80s love or the continuation of a classic saga, we're serving up a podcast episode that's as much about reflection as it is about appreciation. So, lace up those Adidas and let's get ready to debate whether Daniel was really the good guy or if Johnny was just misunderstood.
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Strap on your headbands and crane-kick into nostalgia because Dave, Matt, and Zap are whisking you away to 1984 with a retro rewind, unpacking 'The Karate Kid' in all its glory. Relive the iconic moments that shaped a generation, from Ralph Macchio's unforgettable portrayal of Daniel LaRusso to the timeless wisdom of Mr. Miyagi, as we delve into their defining impact on '80s pop culture. Feel the rhythm of our shared memories and find out how 'Cobra Kai' is keeping the karate chop alive for new fans, all while we drop some behind-the-scenes gems and ponder the 'what-ifs' of Hollywood casting.
Get ready to pop your collar and dust off those Vuarnet shades as we cruise down memory lane, exploring the trends and tech that had us all trying to be as cool as the '80s movie stars we admired. Listen in to hear tales of BMX shenanigans and parachute pants, and how the culture of 'The Karate Kid' parallels our own high school dramas and dirt bike escapades. Our chapter summaries will make you laugh, reminisce, and maybe even cringe a little at the fashion faux pas we thought were so hot back in the day.
Finish off by pulling up a bean bag chair and settling into the old, dirty basement as we muse over Ralph Macchio's career trajectory and the eerie Hollywood trend of 'frogging.' From celebrity privacy boundaries to the charm of American film history, we've got it all. Whether you're here for the '80s love or the continuation of a classic saga, we're serving up a podcast episode that's as much about reflection as it is about appreciation. So, lace up those Adidas and let's get ready to debate whether Daniel was really the good guy or if Johnny was just misunderstood.
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https://freesound.org/people/Sami_Hiltunen/sounds/527187/ Eerie intro music
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https://freesound.org/people/Zott820/sounds/209578/ Cash register
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Hey, this is Dave. Matt and Zap, and welcome to the vintage cinema review where, every week, we review some of our favorite films from the past.
Speaker 2:Hey, there ain't no late fees here.
Speaker 3:Silence is golden and be kind.
Speaker 2:Rewind. Hey, Davey San, what are you going on in the VCR today?
Speaker 3:Very nice. I like what you did there, Dave. This is in fact your pick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is actually the Karate Kid 1984. Not that we confuse with the newer.
Speaker 3:The woke version. Yeah, it was at 2010. They're going to say the Van.
Speaker 1:Halen album. Oh yeah, I forgot about that one.
Speaker 2:One of their best, isn't that a Taylor Swift album 1984.
Speaker 1:I think it's 1989. Oh okay. I knew it was an 80 something, because I have a 15 year old daughter.
Speaker 3:I'm sure she's a cheat and I'm sure that's the reason you knew that.
Speaker 1:I should say about, about to be 15, not 15 yet, but yeah, this Karate Kid 1984, this one man for me, just this screams 80s man.
Speaker 3:Oh my God. Yeah, without a doubt, this is one of those that you want. Assumes that everyone our age or everyone in the known universe has seen, but it's not necessarily the case. I know for me, for damn sure. I've seen this dozens of times.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, the new one kind of like through, I think, a lot of people off. I think the kids kind of gravitated toward the who's, who's, the who played Mr Miyagi in that Jackie Chan and will Smith's little kid.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think I saw the new one bits and pieces.
Speaker 2:I saw. Yeah, I didn't see the whole thing through either.
Speaker 1:For me the classic one, always the best. Now I do like the show they made, the Cobra Kai. I don't know if you've either of you have seen that available on Netflix.
Speaker 2:I've seen, yes, every episode of that. Actually, my wife came in the one time I was watching it. Oh really, in the room she wasn't really like, she didn't really hear anything about it and she was like, what kid show are you watching? She thought I was watching like Nickelodeon or something. That's awesome Like a teenage show. Yeah, it was like a teenage show.
Speaker 3:I'm pretty sure I'm up to date on that. I'm almost positive I'm up to date. What are your thoughts on that? The Cobra Kai show yeah, oh, it's fantastic.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm not really. Oh, my God, it's awesome.
Speaker 1:I really like it. How about you, Matt?
Speaker 2:I love it. I like the fact that they went through Johnny's like his whole life and kind of like making him a whole character that you can relate to. He has a whole life. That hasn't been that great. He's just trying to like live his life and be a regular guy. He has problems, no kid, he has no real job.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's one of my favorites. I like Johnny Lawrence.
Speaker 2:Ever since this movie. Yeah, I think everybody's like Johnny.
Speaker 1:Lawrence For sure. So Karate Kid, rated PG. Released date on this June 22nd 1984. So summer movie, sure Running Time, which I didn't realize, this was this long, 127 minutes, directed by John G Abeldson, written by Robert Mark Kamen and produced by Jerry Weintraub, which is a name I've heard. He's definitely, I think, in the 80s was doing a lot. That name sounds very familiar to me.
Speaker 2:Wasn't that the Me Too guy? No, that was a wine steam.
Speaker 3:Wine steam Harvey, not Jerry.
Speaker 1:Harvey Weinstein. So budget on this 8 million box office, 130.8 million God damn, that was all the summer of 84.
Speaker 2:It made that.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It was box office money. Well, I'm trying to think back. If I saw this on like HBO or something. That's why I've seen it.
Speaker 2:I did not see it in the theater. I remember it was playing on HBO like nonstop. It would like they would like have the movie and then they played again.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:I didn't see this one in the theater. I saw its sequel in the theater, but I did not see this one in the theater. But for damn sure, once it was available on your HBO's or whatever, for damn sure, I saw it. You caught it, yeah.
Speaker 1:So this was mostly filmed in Calabasas, malibu, woodland Hills, areas of LA, oak Creek Canyon in Arizona. The Miyagi house which is now since demolished, was located on Galt Street in Kenoga Park, los Angeles, probably like a suburb, and filming for this October 24th and 83 started, ended December 8th, so about 45 days of filming.
Speaker 3:That's not bad dude. No, you want to talk about the juice being worth the squeeze, right, if that's all you got to put in? Is that much effort and 8 million bucks?
Speaker 2:Shit With kids too. Like that's there are a bunch of kids filming this you could slave labor, it's fantastic, and there was.
Speaker 1:This is one of the rare movies that was filmed like chronologically, so each scene was filmed as they were going through it. A lot of you know they'll do the beginning, the end and mix it all up. That's pretty much it for all that fun stuff, so I'll pass it over to that for the cast.
Speaker 3:Cool, all right. The cast of 1984's the Karate Kid includes Ralph Macchio as Daniel LaRusso, pat Morita as Mr Miyagi, william Zabka as Johnny Lawrence, elizabeth Shoe as Ally Nills, martin Cove as John Crease, randy Heller as Lucille LaRusso, ron Thomas as Bobby Brown, chad McQueen as Dutch, tony O'Dell as Jimmy and Rob Garrison as Tommy.
Speaker 2:Tommy, tommy, that's a good cast. I have a thing to add to that. I might have said this on another podcast.
Speaker 1:I think that Dave said yeah, it was on the Greenbriar Ghost. If you want to go back and hear it, yeah, check that one out, but Ally Nills, who is played by Elizabeth Shoe.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's Elizabeth Shoe. Ally Nills is actually the mom's name on the Wonder Years. That's her real name.
Speaker 2:In real life In real life. Yeah, that's just a little fun factual. But yeah, elizabeth Shoe. I was in DC with my wife and we were walking down the street I seen this lady with her hair was all curled, blonde hair, great body. She was in this blue dress and I was looking. She turned around, looked at me and I was like Elizabeth Shoe. I said it like that out loud and I just stopped. My wife bumped into me and I stopped there looking at her. She's like five, 10 feet away and she kind of looked at me and smiled and turned and went into the hotel there. No, no, no. She seemed really cool and I was like what the heck? Who was that? I was like that was Elizabeth Shoe. She's like who. I was like Adventures in Baby Sitting, crowdy Kid. I was like Elizabeth freaking Shoe.
Speaker 1:You should have kicked the soccer ball over to her In the face.
Speaker 2:I won't say anything about the song yet, but yeah that's been a cool part.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it's just a little fun fact there. Yeah, that's pretty cool. I got a fun fact too on one of these cast members, Chad McQueen. We played Dutch.
Speaker 3:Yeah, is he dead as fried chicken?
Speaker 1:No, he's, as far as I know, still alive. But you know who he's, the son of.
Speaker 3:Steve McQueen.
Speaker 1:Steve McQueen correct.
Speaker 3:Give it a name like that McQueen. It's like hmm, a lightning McQueen, yeah, so wow, I did not know that was Steve McQueen's son.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's awesome. One and only son. So he was born in 60.
Speaker 3:McQueen died like that yeah, he died a while back. He died young.
Speaker 1:Did he die like an accident, car accident or something?
Speaker 3:No, he had the bad cancers or some kind of stomach something or whatever, but it it. He went down for the count early. Some internal something was going wrong.
Speaker 2:Queens from Bullet right Correct.
Speaker 1:Who's the guy I'm thinking of? That like maybe 50s guy died in like a car wreck, like a Porsche. Good looking guy, james Dean.
Speaker 2:James Dean yeah, that's from the 1950s or whatever.
Speaker 1:I know, like my dad and like old heads, they love Steve McQueen because he was always in his car movies and all that yeah.
Speaker 3:So I mean he was like a precursor to like a Bert Reynolds, Like he was the Bert Reynolds of his era.
Speaker 2:He was like a manly man. He was the man's man.
Speaker 3:He was definitely a man's man. I mean, you have him in not only Bullet, as we've discussed, but he was in the great escape, incredible movie, oh, a movie later remade with Pierce Brosnan the Thomas Crown affair.
Speaker 1:Oh really.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I didn't know that was a remake. He did a bang up job in that?
Speaker 2:Who was the? Who was the redheaded lady that played in that?
Speaker 3:In Thomas Crown affair with Pierce Brosnan. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can picture.
Speaker 3:Is it Renee Russo?
Speaker 2:Renee, yes, renee Russo.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she's Renee Russo, foxy lady in that Foxy lady. Dennis Leary's in that as well.
Speaker 1:Oh, he's great. I forgot about Dennis Leary.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but don't sleep on that. The OG original Thomas Crown affair, give that a shot. Nice James Bondi.
Speaker 1:I think I saw it like about years ago. So I guess that's it for the cast and we'll pass it over to Matt for a brief synapsis.
Speaker 2:Yes, we have a brief synapsis here of the movie Karate Kid. A fatherless teenager faces his moment of truth in the Karate Kid. Daniel Ralph Maccio arrives in Los Angeles from the East Coast and faces the difficult task of making new friends. However, he becomes the object of bullying and the Cobras, a menacing gang of karate students, when he strikes up a relationship with Ali Elizabeth Shoe, the Cobras leader ex-girlfriend. Eager to fight back and impress his new girlfriend, but afraid to confront the dangerous gang, daniel asks his handyman, miyagi Pat Morita, whom he learns is a master of the martial arts, to teach them karate. Miyagi teaches Daniel that karate is a mastery over the self, mind and body and that fighting is always the last answer to a problem. Under Miyagi's guidance, daniel develops not only physical skills but also the faith and self-confidence to compete against tremendous odds. As he encounters these, they fight towards his life in the exciting finale. This entertaining film is one the whole family would enjoy.
Speaker 3:Nice Wow.
Speaker 2:I just said the movie.
Speaker 3:God damn, was that on the back of a VHS? Yes, it is, that is the VHS.
Speaker 2:You don't even have to rent the movie.
Speaker 3:We can hold it up for a while. We have the whole movie right there. That's a ridiculous synopsis.
Speaker 2:Okay, fun facts, fun facts.
Speaker 3:Yeah, fun facts, jesus.
Speaker 2:Christ.
Speaker 1:Well, I was very happy to be here, thank you, so I guess it's time to steer through the movie a little bit.
Speaker 3:Yes man, it's going to be tough, though I mean there's not much left to fill in the blanks.
Speaker 1:Right right.
Speaker 3:But indeed our story begins in September in Newark, new Jersey. Amidst a cityscape of working class, a lone station wagon departs its passengers waving goodbye to their friends and neighbors as they depart for sunny California. Arriving at the South Seas Apartment Complex, we're introduced to the travelers a hopeful single mom, lucille LaRusso, and her distraught son, daniel LaRusso. Why do you say distraught? Well, because he's distraught. He doesn't want to fucking be there.
Speaker 1:He's like why do we even have to move what?
Speaker 3:a teenager, true man. An awkward meeting with his neighbor, freddie Fernandez, lands Daniel with an invitation to a party at the beach later that day, and a broken faucet in their new apartment prompts Daniel to meet the apartment complex's maintenance man, mr Miyagi Miyagi.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so those kids, in the very beginning when they're leaving New Jersey, there was like a pack of kids, like you were saying, chasing the car. They were supposedly like local kids in that neighborhood that were like bothering the people on set and the guy was like, look, if you just leave us alone, we'll let you in on the movie, like just chasing the car or whatever. So they were actually kids in the neighborhood the actual neighborhood that were like bothering everybody there.
Speaker 3:Kind of like Rocky running behind him. That was so typical. I mean, they did a great job. I'm sure it was that had to have been filmed, I'm guessing in Jersey, Because I mean that was as typical you could expect out of Jersey.
Speaker 1:You know, I was wondering about that because when I looked up the filming locations there was nothing on there from New Jersey. So I'm wondering if that's like a part of LA that kind of looked Jersey-ish, but I don't know Arizona or something. Or maybe maybe in Arizona, but I was thinking the same thing because I'm like that looks like an East Coast town. It was like such a striking change from where he left to where they ended up.
Speaker 2:If they're filming all of this in California, I don't think they went all the way to the East Coast to film three minutes of the movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, probably not, but that place he's living to.
Speaker 2:The South Seas.
Speaker 1:Well, when they get to California and they're living at that reminds me of a beach, Like when you go to the beach and rent like a spot, like a condo or something like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, but those pools in the middle and all that, that pool was so gnarly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe that's why he was distraught, because he like, so he's like the South Seas apartment.
Speaker 3:I'm pretty sure he was distraught because he didn't. I mean, he was pissing and moaning about it the whole way there. He did not want to leave Jersey. Why do we have to go to California?
Speaker 2:Well, mom got a new job right.
Speaker 3:Which we I wanted, I will get to that question in a second, but it is speaking of the mom played by Randy Heller. Randy Heller was. She played the character of a lesbian in soap.
Speaker 1:Oh, was that Benson? So it was like an offshoot or something.
Speaker 3:Benson was in fact a spin off of soap S. Soap is an incredible sitcom incredible. But yeah, she played a lesbian in that.
Speaker 1:Fun fact too, on her in this movie. So LaRusso, you know, played by Machio, was 22 and she was only like 36, I think they said like 14 year difference for the mother and the son in this like real life, you know what I mean Playing his mom.
Speaker 3:So he was 22 in this. Yes, one more time, he was 22. Yes, god damn, he looked young. So if he was playing a 17 year old going on 18, I thought he was younger.
Speaker 1:Like 15. Yeah, I'm serious.
Speaker 3:I mean, he looked like a goddamn baby.
Speaker 2:That's what for the casting. They said something about the guy was like, well, he's 22 and you're like, ah, that's too old. And they saw him and be like, ah, this guy's perfect.
Speaker 1:I mean he looked young, Perfect and terrible.
Speaker 3:I love dude. I remember all those girls just loving that team beat magazine with Ralph Machio in there.
Speaker 1:Oh, he was like Tiger beat, correct, tiger beat, team beat, you name it.
Speaker 3:The magazines were beat.
Speaker 2:Just beat, just beat.
Speaker 3:So it's interesting. So on the way to the California you know is there traveling through, and they stopped here and they stopped there. I guess during one of the stops they needed to pop the clutch, you know, as they're rolling the car that you know, pop it out, put it in second and do whatever. Now, this was a station wagon, a sizable station, a Malibu I think, five speed, I'm thinking. Well, that's something like a manual transmission in that size of, or I should say, that type of, a car is probably up on the column.
Speaker 1:You know, I mean one of them.
Speaker 2:That that is entirely possible, yeah that's what I think you meant is just put it down into into what drive when he was pushing it.
Speaker 1:I've never I've been driven one like that, but I know they exist.
Speaker 3:I've seen sporty little wagons. In fact I've driven sporty little wagons that have, you know, the that are manual but not this big. You know, that thing was a boat.
Speaker 2:Land yacht that was the like, a family truckster style.
Speaker 3:Did either of you guys notice the shirts between Daniel and Freddie Fernandez?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I wrote something down about that.
Speaker 3:I wrote at what was the style at the time? A muscle shirt. Do does anyone still wear those, please?
Speaker 1:God know Well the shirt Daniel had on is the three eyes. It's that only three eyes the three eyes. I looked it up, just Google it. Is that a band or whatever? It's a national park in Dominican Republic. Now, that's all I could find on that, the maybe, maybe there's a band, the three eyes.
Speaker 3:I don't know who's to say you don't even know, you don't even know that other kids I forget.
Speaker 1:his said like making bacon.
Speaker 2:Correct, His had two big a lot of making bacon shirts in the 80s he's had one pig, humping the other and had making bacon.
Speaker 3:Nice, nice, all kids should have that shirt. So, as what's his name, kicks the door in, he's kicks the door to the complex and he's walking with his bike and a piece of luggage. The bike will obviously we'll get to, but I should say we'll see more of. But what kind of bike was that?
Speaker 1:That was a mongoose and it was the model. Was called a two, four.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:And then he had a two, six, I think two, and I don't know.
Speaker 3:So that was not a 20 inch bike.
Speaker 1:No, that was. You could tell the tires were bigger and all that Like it was a.
Speaker 3:That was the big kids.
Speaker 2:Just a BMX bike for that time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so like a 20 inch, like I had a mongoose California and I got 1984.
Speaker 3:That was like 20 inch.
Speaker 1:That was a 20 inch trick bike. You could put pigs on it. You could do whatever these bikes are more I think for like racing and Mongoose is a racing red line was racing.
Speaker 2:There was like the GTs, which were like the pro performers. They were more like a trick bike.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like in the 84, 85, 86 times.
Speaker 1:So I looked that bike up to see, like you know, people selling them or whatever.
Speaker 2:Like I found, one is like over three grand.
Speaker 3:Fuck that.
Speaker 1:Like uh, one of us like put back together and I just assume we've talked about it.
Speaker 3:I just assumed get a dyno or a mongoose or a dyno back, or whatever.
Speaker 2:Japan now you can buy the sets of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're nice looking. I mean there's old bikes like they're they're awesome.
Speaker 3:They don't make them like they used to.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 3:So that crazy lady in the apartment complex that's just sitting there smoking and Doing whatever it knit and Freddie keeps telling Dan, you're like, oh you know, she's not, she's cuckoo. Was that happen? Was that the woman that played happy Gilmore's grandmother? I?
Speaker 1:don't know. I thought it was the. Where's the?
Speaker 2:beef lady no it was definitely not her.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure on that. I didn't really get a good look at her face cause she was like Done up and you know, I don't know, I didn't. I mean, I didn't put that together.
Speaker 2:But we'll have to find that out.
Speaker 1:Maybe we put that in the mail into it interesting, so we we do get a.
Speaker 3:He does meet with the busted ass faucet. He did meet mr Miyagi, so it is interesting that Matt makes that sound. I got to drop it. Fun fact Pat marita Was born and raised in the United States.
Speaker 1:Yes, no accent.
Speaker 3:He created that accent just for the character. Yeah so it's like you know, it's almost like Arsenio Hall in oh, we did it coming to America, and both him and Eddie Murphy did it. They both put on blackface to play a black character right when they were playing the barbershop guys. So in this case, pat marita is putting on Whatever he thinks is the appropriate, you know, accent of whatever part of the orient he's from, just to sound like, to sound like that.
Speaker 1:Right, well, that's a sound authentic, yeah for the casting of this.
Speaker 2:They said that they knew him from happy days and they were like we're not bringing a week, we were not bringing a comedian into this part, yeah, and and then when they did that that's when tap they said like we need somebody. That's like you know from that costume.
Speaker 1:He's like I eat you put it on and he put it on. They were like, yeah, that's it, that's the guy, that's the guy. I forgot he owned owls right sure, yeah, happy days.
Speaker 3:He owned owls after Al.
Speaker 1:That's right. Yeah, I'll back you up, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he died yeah.
Speaker 1:I think nothing. Nick told me that when I told him we're doing this is a fun fact, you know?
Speaker 2:yeah, I remember that shut up, not Lee shut up.
Speaker 1:No, no, leave not, leave alone. He's bugging to get in here, he's he's yeah, and he will be.
Speaker 3:I assure you he will be for what?
Speaker 2:the classic Classic?
Speaker 3:review of image album review. It's coming, it's come, brace yourselves.
Speaker 2:We're halfway there.
Speaker 1:Are we living on a prayer, oh?
Speaker 3:Well played, sir. Yes, that evening at night, daniel attends the beach party with his newfound friend, freddy and meets a hot local blonde, alley mills, who takes a shine to him, but uh-oh, troubles brewing. A group of high school kids arrive on their dirt bikes, and one of them happens to be Johnny Lawrence, the de facto leader of this miss makeshift gang. As chance would have it, johnny and alley used to be boyfriend, girlfriend, and he's none too happy about their breakup. Seeing Ali and Daniel hitting it off, it doesn't take long for Johnny and his most excellent skills in karate to make short work of Daniel. With a black eye and an already grim outlook for his new surroundings, daniel makes his way to school to the tune of cruel summer by banana Ramah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, get to meet our hero of the story, johnny Lawrence.
Speaker 3:It's some would say yeah but uh, the search.
Speaker 2:certainly the hero of Cobra Kai, for sure, yeah, Um, I just, I just wanted to say like I like that part too, because you're showing these are kids that like Johnny, really doesn't him. Him and Daniel LaRusso, I don't, they don't have anything in common, not a goddamn because he's a rich kid, like they're all on their dirt bikes, you know, they have dirt bikes just because they can. You know what I mean. Right, they don't ride regular bikes, they got dirt bikes.
Speaker 1:I mean even have cars like what he. He has a car.
Speaker 3:Why are?
Speaker 1:you riding the dirt?
Speaker 3:because it's cool. Yeah, because the same reason.
Speaker 2:A dog looks his boss because he can't he just get on your dirt bike right out to the beach, like, uh, but yeah, these, you mean these guys, they're at the Cobra Kai. They got their own little like their little buddies. Big houses, country clubs, it's just a gang, yeah.
Speaker 1:I noticed cool kids. One of the group of kids that Daniel was hanging with had a Varney Varney shirt on. As I said, it Varney, french, if you say the sunglasses V you a R N E T remember those Varney.
Speaker 2:I do not know the shirts Varney shirts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the big. That was the big thing in the 80s.
Speaker 3:I wasn't that highfalutin.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean it was a little before our time, like we would have been much younger, sure, but I was aware of it mostly, probably because of movies and stuff. It was like product placement in movies. But yeah, I noticed that shirt and again one of our boomboxes the big thing in the 80s. That's what kind of sparked all this. Yeah, they're a little run-in on the beach.
Speaker 3:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:So Johnny, we find out, obviously has a thing for his ex. Yeah, they're broken up.
Speaker 3:He won't let it go. Mm-hmm, it's so. I see the boomboxes like that and I remember seeing those, but when I was a kid, the boombox to have was that, though, any one of them that had detachable speakers. Yeah like that to me was that you were the shit if you had to like your. Your boombox was a transformer right, which was just awesome.
Speaker 2:It was like the record player to tape decks. Yeah, and it had like the big equalizer underneath, and then you had the two speakers that you could take off.
Speaker 1:You get it from Sears. It was always like the SR series, like SR 2000, sr 3000.
Speaker 2:What is it? That's like Sears robot, something to do with their?
Speaker 1:wonder yeah, you know what you're right.
Speaker 2:Sears robot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the SR but then later, if you were like mid 90s, it was Iowa AI, that was how it progressed. Those things sounded awesome, those little Iowa systems, but 80s boomboxes all over the place all over the place.
Speaker 3:So we were talking about the dirt bikes, right? So Matt and I grew up not too far from one another and Maybe right in between us. Geographically was this area of yet to be developed land Billy's trails, the Billy trails? Well, so it was a cornfield that, over the course of time, there was a lot of runoff, almost like glacier, like that had cut through a back side of it. It could have been from earth movers, who knows, but there was a just a ton of dirt that was moved and created this huge, long-running ditch.
Speaker 1:Off-white house lean. Is that what we're talking about?
Speaker 3:This would have been.
Speaker 2:I mean not at the time it was in between there was a hand over street and God, it's where your cousin lived. It was right behind, which was hand over street. Hand over street. It was right behind, like Rosedale Avenue down. That way the Michelli's lived the next complex down. It was right behind the complex that was like that. Lake side drive yeah.
Speaker 3:So there was any number of ways to get to this and it was all through what? You're riding your bike through woods or cornfields like Nobody no, no, parents knew where it were. In fact, I knew where it was in fact. I remember my parents at one point saying look, you're not going to those trails unless you take us to these trails. What you keep talking about, this what's go? What goes on back there?
Speaker 2:That was the first place I had a Tobacco.
Speaker 1:So let me put it in perspective back then when you guys were kids is like Hill Valley. When you go back to where Marty's houses, it's all fields. Yep, but now it's all houses. Oh yeah, okay, I'm trying to get there now.
Speaker 3:I bring up the concept or the memory of the Billy trails because, as we're talking about bicycles and whatever so, most kids, and I mean 90 plus percent of the kids back there, were riding their BMX bikes. They would go down this into this ditch and come back up, like you guess like a half pipe made of dirt, correct?
Speaker 3:Yeah, thank you for that. That's exactly what I was looking for. It's a very long half pipe made of dirt and it was deep, it was. So Every once in a while, every once in a while, you would see someone show up with a dirt bike, and that I mean they would just rip. I mean rip you. The air they would get was unbelievable.
Speaker 2:But I don't know if you remember Jeff Webb. He was like one of the older kids. So you, jeff.
Speaker 3:Jeff Webb used to hang out with a guy named Scott guest. Okay, those two were the dynamic do yeah.
Speaker 1:I had a Yamaha.
Speaker 2:Right, you and your brother, yeah.
Speaker 1:I used to ride and do that. You couldn't go anywhere in the city Like I'd have like a little. I just do little circles and stuff your grandma's, your grandma's house.
Speaker 2:She had those two hills.
Speaker 1:It's not like now, like in the city. Kids just ride up down the street like through traffic. Oh my god, I can't stand that shit.
Speaker 3:I look forward to every single one of them getting hit by a car.
Speaker 2:I'm serious, I'm ridiculing cancer.
Speaker 3:I look forward to every single one of them getting hit by a car real quick.
Speaker 2:We didn't mention this, but I never real quick cruel, cruel summer there by banana Ramo. This saw there was a pretty good soundtrack To this. For sure it's fun. It takes you right back, shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, with that part too I wanted to mention I wrote down here so that scene where cruel summers playing, they're all walking into school. Yep, everybody's got denim jeans on and I'm like man, that's a nice ass, that's a night and like half of them are dudes. Yeah, because they have the same hairstyle, because you just see him from the back, and a lot of guys and girls had a hand and the third yeah, and the jeans are so tight, I'm like man, that's nice, like and it's a dude.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, dude on this one is like riding those bikes. Yeah, you're like hey, check, check oh when you're driving up on them.
Speaker 3:You're like oh, oh, oh, oh. Hey, man, I just wanted to ask you if you thought the game was good last night.
Speaker 2:Oh, how about it? How about that game?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Jesus Christ, that's tight denim jeans back in the day.
Speaker 2:Yes, they were all the guest jeans.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm, yeah, I guess who's wearing them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, good one.
Speaker 3:All right, everybody's at school. Not long into his first day at school, daniel has a rough go at soccer tryouts, where we find Johnny and his friends dominating the practice session and luring Daniel to take the bait for a fight. Daniel is determined to get even with the local hooligans and is now intent on learning karate. Making his way to the local dojo, he's swift to find that his nemesis, johnny, and all of Johnny's cohorts Are the star pupils of Cobra Kai, the dojo's namesake fear not. A quick pep talk with his mom and a reminder of Ali's attraction set his mind at ease for the moment.
Speaker 3:That night, as Daniel makes his way home on his bicycle, he's followed and terrorized by Johnny and his friends on their dirt bikes. He doesn't stand a chance as he's run off the road, tumbling down the hill with his bike right behind him. Eventually making his way to the apartment complex, we find a distraught Daniel cursing his bikes inferiority To the point of throwing his bike into the dumpster, and his mom's inability to console him at the time. All of this Outside the door of mr Miyagi's on-site workshop eight, where he's heard the entire exchange.
Speaker 1:You know one thing I want to mention too. With his Daniel he gets the town and makes friends with those that guy there and then a group of them stuff and they ditch him like real quick Just cuz you get your ass beat like off. Screw you, I'm done with you and they just kind of roll that one, thank you.
Speaker 3:So that was in the first thing when they're doing the beach party.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I want. I wrote that down. I forgot. I wanted to mention that you.
Speaker 3:That's messed up. They left him there.
Speaker 1:Like, would you do that? Like ditch it, dude, cuz he got his ass beat. You know, you met Somebody's pretty cool and then you're getting it off and then they get to beat up and you're like, ah, you're a loser and they just kind of left them there.
Speaker 3:You know, you remember, and it was just kind of maybe back then I might.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm just a kid.
Speaker 3:So in 84. I'm eight years old, so yeah, I probably would do that. Like who's this kid? I just met him. He's trouble. I don't want anything to do with this guy.
Speaker 2:Hey, just yeah, cuz you're like, if he got beat up, maybe I'll get beat up if I hang out. You're a loser. Yeah, you don't want to be like so sure as be. Then too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you're like. And one other thing I couldn't notice because it was nighttime, but it was Johnny wearing parachute pants, and you remember those from the 80s.
Speaker 3:I for sure remember parachute pants, zippers. Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when did emcee hammer come out?
Speaker 3:I think 89 or 88, the first one, I think, of his emcee hammer.
Speaker 1:But those were more of a baggy pants, parachute pants. You could get ones that were kind of tight and almost like, but they would have zippers like joggers, right Right yeah and and and I'm pretty sure he was wearing them and it made me think off. Forgot about parachute pants.
Speaker 2:I thought they were all the rage in the 80s I thought they were more like work, like like a jumpsuit type pant maybe like an adidas.
Speaker 1:I had parachute pants. You could zip up the side and like there'd be a different color, like up the scene you know me that type stuff. And you know I was looking at Johnny's outfit and I'm like oh shit, parachute pants. Now in HD you can see all that stuff.
Speaker 2:They still make. They still make the button pants that button all the way down. Yeah, that you usually take off for a basketball game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm sure they do.
Speaker 3:Oh my god, I forgot all about those.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I completely forgot about the adidas ones yeah yeah
Speaker 3:so before the, before those guys run Daniel off the road.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:So Daniel goes to the doge, took Cobra Kai dojo sees the bad guys in there and he high tails it the hell out of there.
Speaker 3:Yeah so just draw it again. He goes over to this restaurant where his mom is, his mom's working. So the bad guys seem in there and they're just waiting. They they're. They know he's got to come out of there soon enough. So as he's sitting there in the restaurant talking to his mom, his mom says you know, she mentions her ability oh, this place is great, I'm gonna train as a manager. I'm curious just If she isn't already a manager or some higher level of employee. What was her draw? To leave Jersey to go to California to be a waitress?
Speaker 1:No, there was something that they mentioned, that she was going their job Computer computer.
Speaker 3:So she did say that, oh, if I do this manager thing, maybe she was working two jobs.
Speaker 2:Maybe so it wasn't so techie in the New Jersey area. I think that they were in. So you know, you move out to California. Big tech jobs. It was come down yeah she was looking at.
Speaker 3:This makes sense now. So her main gig was something in computer, because she says that she's oh, I could make way more money than being in computers making it out of the safety sands or whatever it's called shady shady anchors South seas.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the Oriental Oriental Express or something, that restaurant she was at her but, I was looking at his plate. He had like a nice big steak. He's like picking on me, man. That steak looks banging. It wasn't a Benny Hanna food was really good.
Speaker 2:Oh, it looked real good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I'm. He's there like picking at the broccoli and like do I be tearing that steak up? Look like a high-end kind of restaurant, Nice restaurant. But yeah, I wondered about that too with the job thing I've heard that as soon as she said.
Speaker 3:The computer thing and you piece that together for me. Thank you, dave. Yeah, she had to have moved out there for computers.
Speaker 3:She's working a second gig for sure. Well, the next day at school, a Pleasant run-in for Daniel with Ali and her friend is short-lived. As he sees Johnny as and his friends lurking about, he runs away without being seen and makes his way home. Upon arriving in his apartment, he finds his bicycle waiting for him, fully repaired and in brand new condition. Assuming correctly that it is Mr Miyagi to thank, he pays him a visit, a lesson in bonsai trees and a quick talk about inner peace. Later, daniel has made a friend in Mr Miyagi and is shaping up to be a worthy apprentice.
Speaker 2:Sounds very ominous.
Speaker 3:Is it Maybe hopeful? He's a.
Speaker 2:Sith Lord.
Speaker 3:Sith Lord, yeah, so PS. Allie's friend is a bitch, that dark-haired chick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's always trying to jump in, it's just awful Like come on man.
Speaker 3:Hey, this is my friend Daniel charmed. Yeah, shut up.
Speaker 2:Like all the kids in this high school, they all seem to be rich because Allie's house Correct, so how did they zone to be in? His little apartment complex there. Like why are they going to this school? Wouldn't that be like a?
Speaker 1:Well, no, this is one like I taught to LA Ron because he grew up out there and he always mentioned how, like the schools he was at, like you'd have some kids that would be from the hood like down in some areas, and some are like out in these, like the. What do you call that?
Speaker 2:place Cliffs or something.
Speaker 3:The hills or the hills sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and he's like you'd go to these parties and these houses are.
Speaker 2:It's like a whole another life and here around where we live they seem like every time they put up like a real big new housing project.
Speaker 1:they like zone it out, zone it out of a certain school district.
Speaker 3:Yeah, school districts, like what the hell? It's like a congressional redistricting? Yeah, it's redistricting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you see, like these lines, like it goes like a mile east and then it drops like six miles south to pick up the project. Yeah, and then it bumps and then it goes over and gets the projects like all out of the picture. That's so crazy.
Speaker 3:It's so true though.
Speaker 2:It is true.
Speaker 3:So when Daniel runs away from these cats again he's with Ali and her bitch of a girlfriend he sees Johnny and Johnny's friends. They're all sitting on their dirt bikes at the bus stop Because, again, daniel doesn't have a bike, he threw his. At this point, daniel threw his bike into God damn dumpster, so he's got to take you know, get on the bus and there's Johnny and his friends and Daniel just wants to avoid these guys. We were talking earlier about the dirt bike thing around here, and I'm sure it's. In fact I know it's nationwide. There's whatever with ATVs or four wheelers or even dirt bikes, where just the bad element gets on them and they roll up and down busy streets, absolutely busy streets.
Speaker 3:Three lanes, four lanes of traffic, Rush hour traffic. Yeah, so this is back in 84. We're talking I hate to say it almost 40 years ago.
Speaker 1:It's crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Wrap your head around that one. So how are these dirt bikes legal? Like for them to ride these around, there was no license plate. There was no license needed to ride one of these Was, I guess. Was that okay in California or just okay overall?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know about that one.
Speaker 2:When we were kids you could ride your dirt bikes on the street. I don't think they'd really bother you, unless you were. You would probably like weave in and out like go up on the sidewalk or ride down the sidewalk in the street. Yeah, like bop out, like when nobody's looking and stuff.
Speaker 1:I never did with mine. I would always take it to like what little patch of grass we could find. Otherwise I'd go outside of the city, We'd load up on my dad's truck and take it out and ride at my cousin's house or wherever. But in the city I wasn't jumping on it Like riding it up to the little league field.
Speaker 2:There's kids around here that they'll drive up the sidewalks onto the little league field and stuff so yeah, I don't think it's a thing, unless you're like really causing trouble.
Speaker 1:Now I had cousins that lived in Halifax.
Speaker 3:Yeah, a lot of dirt up there, so they're riding. There's still a lot of dirt up there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they'd ride wherever. I don't even know if there was a cop up there or state police. They might be the only ones that patrol it. And they're not patrolling it.
Speaker 3:Regional, they call it.
Speaker 1:Regional, yeah, so I don't know about out there. I would think that they would frown on that Dirt bikes riding around, but maybe for the movie they just kind of rode it in there, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Or no, like if they're just riding around the beach and stuff. I don't think it's.
Speaker 3:Well now, with that, what did we see? Not but 10 years or so later, in Terminator 2? We see a young John Connor and his friend riding their dirt bikes around town. True, maybe that's an LA thing. That's an LA thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Who's to say oh, wow. Well, time passes and Halloween is soon upon us. At the encouragement of Mr Miyagi, daniel decides to attend the school's Halloween party. Daniel and Ali rekindle their estranged, budding relationship and all is right in Daniel's world. But timing is everything. And when Daniel finds Johnny in the bathroom rolling a joint in one of the stalls, daniel makes the most of the situation by sneakily placing a maintenance hose in just the right place to douse Johnny from head to toe with water. An infuriated Johnny races past Black Spider-Man and, along with his entire group of misfit friends, chases Daniel all the way back to Daniel's apartment. Daniel is caught in the ass-kicking of a lifetime in Seuss. Just when we think all hope is lost for Daniel, mr Miyagi arrives and saves the day, making short work of Johnny and all of his friends.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's Daniel. He can't just leave things alone, he's gotta go in there and stir up some shit. He's okay.
Speaker 3:He was dressed as a shower curtain, which I thought was like a shower, daniel is definitely a shit-star, johnny is definitely a bully, but Daniel is definitely a shit-star.
Speaker 1:Then he goes out and crawls his accidents running down the street like in traffic.
Speaker 3:Oh shit, that's right, the two guys. I mean the guy's a menace. A menace, I tell you. Yeah, a menace to society.
Speaker 2:I think Johnny was just upset that he was trying to take his girlfriend Like right in front of him. Like the goal on this guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So indeed, I said it tongue in cheek, but in fact there was Black Spider-Man. Oh yeah, so the kids, just, it's just this dude walking into the bathroom and he puts his hand up like yo, what up, johnny. Johnny just runs right by him. Just disses Black Spider-Man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, saw that.
Speaker 3:That isn't cool at all. Not at all. Any of you catch the one line from Miyagi when he says that Daniel doesn't wanna go to this party. He just wants to be an introvert at this point because he just gets beat up wherever he goes. So Mr Miyagi says oh, like Confucius, right To make honey, young bee need young flower. That's pervious shit.
Speaker 1:It is a little pervy I didn't catch that one.
Speaker 3:What was the? Is that improvised, I guess? What was the name that Johnny's one friend it might've been Bobby gave to the joint he's like are you rolling that?
Speaker 2:Thunder stick.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like insert Thunder stick.
Speaker 2:He didn't call it a joint.
Speaker 3:He didn't call it a whatever, A whammy or something like that. Did he call it a number Like hey, are you done rolling that number Maybe?
Speaker 1:Maybe it might've been. Oh wow, that's something. I didn't catch either on that.
Speaker 2:But I don't think Larusa knew he was rolling the joint there. I think that was just a bonus.
Speaker 1:Well, he came up over and was looking down at him through the mic drop where he put the hose over. But yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, so after Miyagi comes in and saves the day at the end. So Daniel's trying to let's recall, Daniel's trying to jump this fence to get away. His apartment's like right there, His building is right there, and of course the bad guys catch him and they pull him off of the fence. Did anyone other than me notice that after Miyagi kicks all these kids' ass, after having jumped from the top of this fence onto these kids, he just lifts the chain in the lock right off of the thing and the gate opens wide. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Maybe he had the key.
Speaker 3:He didn't insert a key. He just like flipped some stuff over. Maybe he karate chopped it. He's magic, yeah, magic Miyagi.
Speaker 1:It was like Batman jumping down there taking out all those dudes. I laughed too, though you ever see and it's always, and I get it because it's a movie, but they always have you got five guys, they all take weight, their turn to get their ass kicked. It's like why wouldn't you just fucking why?
Speaker 2:wouldn't you do. They're all like doing these moves. They're guys like sitting back To the air and then they like attack.
Speaker 1:You're spectating. He's done. All right, my turn, and you're gonna get your ass beat Like if you all three jump on him at once. You might have a chance.
Speaker 3:Now you couldn't see it, but Matt just did a great impression of Johnny, who was the last one to get his ass kicked, but yeah, like he's standing back there, he starts waving his hands around Like he's basically doing wax on, wax off, and he comes over and Miyagi just kicks him right in the belly.
Speaker 2:But you remember, like Kung Fu theater growing up it was always like that, like, oh, it's like one guy attacked at a time.
Speaker 1:And everybody's watching everybody else get their ass kicked In real life. I don't think that goes down like that. Five on one, I don't care who you are.
Speaker 2:So why wasn't there any charges pressed against Mr Miyagi for beating up a couple of 16, 17 year olds?
Speaker 1:It's 84, man. Stuff like that just happened it's 84.
Speaker 3:Kids got a beating back then and that was it.
Speaker 1:That was it Just kind of happened here, yeah, but by like a grown Asian man.
Speaker 2:Right, so if you told your parents like I don't know, asian dude just came down and whooped our asses. Dad.
Speaker 3:Well, any good father is going to say well, what did you do?
Speaker 2:Right, right, right, you were picking on the LaRusso or the LaRusso kid was starting trouble again.
Speaker 3:Yeah, only a woke helicopter parent is going to go over and say you beat my kid up. I don't care what shit terribleness he did, you can't do that to my kid.
Speaker 1:Right, I think back then it was just kind of like kids got in fights all the time. Yep you know what I mean. You come back beat up a little bit, or bruised or no, your parents never really questioned.
Speaker 2:I got my eye cut open when I was six or seven.
Speaker 1:Fighting and stuff. No, I was throwing. How old was?
Speaker 2:he 14-E? Yeah, no, he was like 13 or 14. He was riding his bike over the hill by where I used to get babysat, so anyway, we were throwing these stones Spelled differently.
Speaker 1:I know, I know who he is.
Speaker 2:I guess I hit the kid's bike so he like slams on his brakes and comes over. He's like who threw the rock and, like my friend Mike, just turns around and runs back towards his house. Oh man, the kid just goes and punches me and I remember because I got stitches under my eye and I remember I didn't get, they didn't inject me, you were six. Seven or eight.
Speaker 1:Oh, seven or eight still.
Speaker 2:He went no-num stitches. Yes, I remember that to this day. I just remember how much it hurt on the no-num stitches.
Speaker 2:Because it was so close to my eye. But anyway, my dad wanted to know who this kid was, so he had Mike's brother jump in the car and my dad found the guy and he was riding his bike. Still, the kid, who was probably 14, 15. Grabbed the handlebars of his bike, bent him, and then the kid went and told his dad and my dad called his dad and said look what you did to my son. I remember the dad's like talking it out and the dad was like, oh, he deserved that, then this and that. But yeah, to your point, I think yeah, that happened in the 80s.
Speaker 1:Shit, shit, that happened. Yeah, you just kind of work it out. Hey, stop being a dumbass. Look, I got slapped around a couple.
Speaker 3:I got slapped around by my friend's parents for sure, like because it was expected. Like look man, my parents would say if my kids acted up, feel free. Like it probably went unsaid. It's just understood If a kid acts up, you're going to smack him around a little bit.
Speaker 2:But I was just thinking like these rich parents, this Asian guy from an apartment complex whoops my kid's ass. Like I'm sure there would have been like cops called.
Speaker 3:I don't know. You can't get blood from a stone.
Speaker 1:And yeah, those kids aren't going to probably say anything either.
Speaker 3:They're not embarrassed.
Speaker 1:And they're in karate, so they probably come home bruised up all the time.
Speaker 3:True, getting beat up. We used to come home bruised all the time too. Just what? I went there Getting woopin, yeah, hell yeah, with grill marks, all right, well, hot damn. Daniel now has another avenue in which to learn karate Mr Miyagi. Mr Miyagi accompanies Daniel to the Cobra Kai Dojo in hopes of squashing the ongoing feud between Johnny's gang and Daniel. Soon enough, we learn a little more about the sinister nature of the Dojo sensei John Crease. After a short exchange between Crease and Mr Miyagi, the gauntlet is thrown. Daniel will fight at the upcoming All Valley Karate tournament, where all scores will be settled. In the meantime, there are to be no fights or harassment from Johnny and his friends. In order for Daniel to train, mr Miyagi has a few tasks for Daniel to complete before he starts training, however, and his first task waxing all of the cars in Mr Miyagi's parking lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, wax on, wax off.
Speaker 3:Wax on, wax off. So the Mr Miyagi John Crease exchange was pretty good. Like you have this menacing, angry, just a shithead of a man here that's just teaching his kids like hate and beat people up and this is how you be a bully. And what was their creed? It was like no mercy and that's it.
Speaker 2:But Crease had a pretty jacked up backstory.
Speaker 3:He did which we find later. He did discover later.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, a lot of that has stemmed from just years of abuse.
Speaker 1:Right, he wasn't born that way. Yeah, he was just kind of me. He was me To a killing machine.
Speaker 2:He was a killing machine. Actually, he was perfect in that movie. Like you, just hated that guy.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:Oh my god, yeah, he was the villain. Nobody liked Crease, nobody at all. He was terrible.
Speaker 1:Are you more of a wax on or a wax off guy?
Speaker 3:Booth Paint the fence I guess it depends on the situation. Yeah Well, that night Daniel's got a date with Ali. They make their way to the local golf and stuff where, despite what had been such a fun date, Daniel finds himself intimidated by Ali's affluent friends, their cars, their everything. But back to focusing on what's important. Daniel's next day with the Pistramiagi is met with yet another task Sanding the floor of the decking surrounding and making its way through Mr Miyagi's Oriental Garden. Evening comes and morning follows.
Speaker 3:Daniel's next day with Mr Miyagi begins with a quick stint of catching flies with chopsticks, followed by yet another task Painting both sides of the fence surrounding the rear of Mr Miyagi's property. Evening comes, and morning follows. Yet again. Today's task for Daniel paint the entirety of Mr Miyagi's house, with only a note to guide him as to how to perform the task, as Mr Miyagi will not be present this day. Upon Mr Miyagi's arrival at his house that night, he finds an infuriated Daniel, frustrated with having to perform so many tasks while having received no karate lessons in exchange. Daniel's mind is blown when Mr Miyagi reveals that all the mundane tasks Daniel has been performing for him have actually been part of his training.
Speaker 1:I remember back when I saw this movie that I was kind of blown away by that part.
Speaker 2:Oh dude, that's a great part I would have never guessed that, that's what he was doing.
Speaker 3:Incredible he pulled a mind trick on him. That was crazy.
Speaker 2:He's showing me a paint the fence and then he's doing the hand moves in Sand the floor. It was really cool and just how he was doing it.
Speaker 1:It was only that easy to learn. And the other thing, back to that park where the mini golf, golf and stuff. Again, with those beach vibes. Watching those scenes makes me think of when you go to the beach. We live on the East Coast here, so when I go to the beach, those are the things you do. There's water slides, there's mini golf, there's arcades. It just seemed like a night at the beach on the East Coast. Out on the West Coast, this is what they do, I guess.
Speaker 3:The weather is completely different out there.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely it's like 65 degrees in the winter.
Speaker 1:That's what I was laughing the night before the match which takes place in December. They're out on water slides and stuff. They're at that park For sure You're on Christmas break and you're swimming and stuff.
Speaker 2:What was the tune at the park there? That?
Speaker 3:one I don't remember.
Speaker 1:I have it written down here your heart's young.
Speaker 3:No, that's later. That's not now, that's later.
Speaker 1:I thought it was. Yeah, you're right, it's the second time, correct, ok, ok.
Speaker 3:So Daniel drove Daniel I'm sorry, daniel's mom drove Daniel and Allie to the golf and stuff. She picks him up, of course, in the beater wagon and the thing doesn't work, or again it stalls again. And now Daniel and his mom are pushing Daniel's would-be date and Daniel's actual date and she's the one starting the car.
Speaker 1:Pop the clutch.
Speaker 3:So I guess it's quite evident that Daniel didn't make such a good impression with Allie's parents.
Speaker 1:Right, ok.
Speaker 3:Oh, we were talking about dirt bikes earlier and they ride dirt bikes because they can, and Johnny already had a car, in fact Johnny's car. He drove in a Vonte, but they are. It's not often you see an Avanti. Yeah, I don't know, that's an incredibly rare car, but it makes sense considering the affluence.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that other dude pulls up in a white vet.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so this is cool.
Speaker 1:And this is 84. They're filming us. That was that new body style at that time. Yeah, so all your Corvette's up around the stingray type. Well no, this 84 vet was when they got real long the curves went away.
Speaker 3:The curves went away and the flat came in right, yeah, they weren't that like 70s style Corvette the best.
Speaker 1:I think 82 they was the last year of that like your 70s style vet. And then they went to that Almost like real modern looking, so you'd imagine you're in a theater in 84, like what the hell kind of cars had that white.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that white vet. It was like seeing a DeLorean like whoa.
Speaker 1:I've never seen that before right, but that I didn't know that. Avanti Yep, I think they're rims right. Let me talk about Avanti.
Speaker 2:Avanti.
Speaker 1:Now I remember. Renzo's what was that? Yeah, that's what they were Lorenzo's Avanti.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so yeah, and Avanti Fantastic or a neat little car, definitely a neat little car. So when? So everything is all coming together here and Daniel's pissed in a moment like dude I've been, I've been doing this work for nothing and all I want to do is get trained. Am I the only one who thought, when mr Miyagi or I should say, thought mr Miyagi might have been for a special treat Wink-wink when he told Daniel to wax on wax?
Speaker 2:off at.
Speaker 3:Santa floor and Daniel bends down immediately and he's completely out of the scene. Yeah and just be like I Was thinking the same thing. All right, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't feeling one being juvenile no, no, that's where my mind goes.
Speaker 1:He's like no, get back up here. Up here or not. Down there All right.
Speaker 3:Well, with his arms now conditioned, daniel's first day of official training begins on the beach, where he is to learn balance it is during this session where he catches a glimpse of mr Miyagi before performing what is known as the crane technique have a quick fun fact on that.
Speaker 2:You guys know what I'm gonna say no. Okay, that was not Pat marita up there doing the crane technique. That does not surprise me.
Speaker 1:No, who was it?
Speaker 2:It was the guy. Actually, it was one of the writers. He came up, but he just made up the crane tech. It's no. There's no crane technique in the martial arts. Oh was some guy and he just they said well, what is it, what do you do with this crane technique? And he got up on that thing. It was doing it doing that move, and that's where Allah I feel like.
Speaker 1:I feel like I don't have this written down or in any fun facts, but I feel like Somebody in the UFC or somebody used like the actual crane technique, then in an actual fight, and I don't know if that's real or not, if I just think I read that somewhere might have been just for comedic effect.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm sure, and it's to say yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, as a welcome distraction, daniel makes a date with Ali for this coming Saturday night. He's to meet up with her after she attends dinner with her parents at the local country club. In the meantime, daniel's training continues with learning balance, this time on a small boat with mr Miyagi. Saturday night arrives and an impatient Daniel sneaks into the country club and hoops of seeing what his crush is up to and why she may be delayed. There he sees her and Johnny dancing. Johnny seeing Daniel kisses Ali passionately, and Enraged Daniel swiftly flees, only to make a fool of himself by running into one of the servers who's carrying plates of pasta and tomato sauce go figure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, once again Makes a mess of everything he does. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, do you have to pay for those dishes after you ruined them? Yeah, I know what's he been doing there. He wasn't invited.
Speaker 1:That's probably one of things where you know they tell you like you got to watch dishes to make up for everything they buy, Adam work, this whole scene, that whole scene where he Runs into the whatever runs into the other server.
Speaker 3:So, first things first, daniel's outfit, who the fuck wears an entirely white Outfit, a white shirt and white jeans or white slacks, like he was all white the only thing, not Shadowing the only thing not white on him was a red zip up you know, rain jacket.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Look, he was in like running of the bulls, like the old way down fit like a red scarf, like dude, what were you thinking Like?
Speaker 3:was that ever fashionable? All white?
Speaker 1:like to go out that coat to. It had one of the zippers along the neck, yeah.
Speaker 3:I was wondering if that was what members. What's it called?
Speaker 2:members only, members only. That's it. No, they had the zip pocket on the might have been a London fog.
Speaker 1:Yes, I know fog.
Speaker 3:So after so Daniel, now in all white and now covered in pasta and sauce. I am curious had it been another server that ran into the ones Not Daniel, but another server to the run into the server who's carrying the pasta Would the whole room still have laughed as much as they did? Oh yeah, I know like dudes lay in there with pasta all over himself and there's another server right next to him and the whole room is just laughing at these two cracking up.
Speaker 2:Well, that's what Johnny, he saw. He saw Daniel there in that little, in the little window there, and that's when he like he forces the kiss upon Ali, hmm, and then she gets all like stop it. But they didn't even hang around to see that part. Mm-hmm, he shouldn't have been there. Though, like you said, davey's just trying to like call his shit again.
Speaker 1:He's just stirring it up and that part with the what wait a second, wait, wait.
Speaker 3:He wasn't stirring it up. He was supposed to have a date with this chick after she was done with dinner right at 9 30. Well then, it's 9 40 and Daniel's waiting outside.
Speaker 2:Okay, so where's this? You know? But they weren't like inclusive, Like she's allowed to date other people if she wanted to. Like he's getting all, it's getting all weird.
Speaker 1:And those people in the country club. They always want to make rich people look Evil you know, they're laughing in there, dude. That goes back to look at that poor kid. Look at that kid.
Speaker 3:Black and white Of course of course Did anyone else besides me the when. When Daniel and mr Miyagi are in the rowboat and Miyagi shakes him out off of the the front of the boat, the first thing I thought of was clutch cargo, because he's like Daniel's son. You all went behind that he is Ah.
Speaker 1:I don't know alive.
Speaker 3:I told him Paul alive.
Speaker 2:Wasn't, wasn't Daniel's mom like, didn't you know he was hanging out with Miyagi all the time either?
Speaker 1:Well, she, I think she likes it because he got a friend. It's a father figure, you know.
Speaker 2:yeah he is fatherless yeah ps.
Speaker 3:I loved that. That was like the first or second word in the synopsis. You, you read, matt what father, father, fatherless. That's why I repeated it like dang, yeah, yeah, all right, a fatherless I know, Jesus Was a test.
Speaker 1:Did they say what happened to his dad?
Speaker 2:Is there any?
Speaker 3:part of his biological didn't bother.
Speaker 2:No, so he just he's somewhere in new jersey with another family could be, could be. He should. They should have him back on like the uh cobra kai. That'd be a good episode, could be long lost father.
Speaker 1:Maybe they'll go into that. There's a new season coming out who's this?
Speaker 2:a book, season four? I think no three.
Speaker 3:More than that, we might be on five five, it might be oh. Who's to?
Speaker 2:say I mean, these kids are like 27 now.
Speaker 3:Right. Oh my god, I still can't believe he was 22 when he did this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dude.
Speaker 3:He was old. Well, after the failed date, daniel makes his way to mr Miyagi's house, where he finds a drunken mr Miyagi Lamenting his long dead wife and son. The next day, daniel trains alone. The following day, daniel's training continues with mr Miyagi, where Daniel finally learns how to go on the offense as he is trained in how to punch. Time passes and we come upon a red letter day in the larusso family, daniel's 18th birthday, which also happens to be the day before the all valley karate tournament. From mr Miyagi, daniel receives a gi and the keys to any of mr Miyagi's cars of his choosing, ready to take on the world. Daniel makes his way to golf and stuff where he reconciles with alley during a montage of scenes with Young hearts playing in the background.
Speaker 1:Young hearts beat fast.
Speaker 3:So you're driving down the road.
Speaker 1:You know, I didn't think about that. He turned 18 and it's an under 18.
Speaker 3:Bam, that was one of my questions. Thank you for pointing that out. It is the all valley under 18 Karate tournament, so there again he's picking on kids.
Speaker 1:Well no, that's like when you're, when you're playing t-ball and stuff, there's kids that are like it goes by the yeah, goes by the date of, like the birthday if you're 18, under 18.
Speaker 2:Well, then again, are you saying Daniel's a cheater?
Speaker 1:then maybe he's just saying, like he was, wasn't under.
Speaker 2:Because maybe johnny was like only 15 at the time.
Speaker 3:There's got to be some wiggle room. What if they would have scheduled it a week earlier? Then, all of a sudden, he wouldn't be 18. Like there's got to be some kind of wiggle in that.
Speaker 2:Well, no, it's like signing up for kids sports. There's always like a sign update.
Speaker 1:Hmm, like, if you're like in, yeah, like a little league, we'd have kids that turn 13 during the season. You know when it's on 12, you know usually 12 is the age but um, yeah, that can make a difference sometimes. I know, like in travel baseball, like my son played for a couple years in there and they would always target the kids that were older. Like that would turn if you're on 11. You, you know they'd have kids that were already 12, but they would, because that makes a difference. You know, I don't know about by time you're 17, 18, 19. I mean I'm sure you can get an edge though, but a 10 to 12 year olds.
Speaker 2:Big difference.
Speaker 3:Look, puberty starts kicking in at varying ages, man. But yeah, luck, the older you are man, is it? You know?
Speaker 2:so you think, you think alley was all impressed that he had, like this, new yellow 100?. Yeah, she was like oh, I kind of like him now.
Speaker 3:Well, now he's, oh, he's like one of my friends, he's got a fancy car. And he has confidence in himself. Now that he knows how to punch, you, do whatever.
Speaker 1:Well, that was a scene too. You were talking about the friends and how her friends were kind of jerky and he's in there trying to apologize and they're all getting in the way. Yep, like they got to put their two cents and beat. It has nothing to do with you. Like you know what I mean. Like they, they just got to keep putting in their two cents the whole time.
Speaker 3:Get your white ass away from that window.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they, uh. I, I did think it had an that part.
Speaker 3:Yeah, uh, oh, so curious between both of you. Oh, all of the cars and mr Miyagi's lot. I want to pick that one. Which one would you have taken? I for one would not have taken some bright canary yellow convertible. No, it was that black one. I would have taken the black one right next to it. Yep for sure.
Speaker 2:I think that's because the only one that they focus on, because they always keep showing the canary yellow convertible, the black one right next, because it had. What is that?
Speaker 3:a Ford who knows, wait, wait, wait. The yellow one or the black one? No, the black one. The black one was a 40 something. I would say Chevy or Ford.
Speaker 1:I thought it was a Ford. The yellow one was a 1948 Ford super Deluxe. It's de dash l ux.
Speaker 2:What is?
Speaker 3:one run today there, dave I that I don't know. That's a. That's the type of apartment in the sky.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Deluxe apartment.
Speaker 2:D moving on up.
Speaker 3:Moving on up Deluxe. Wasn't that the name of the band? That's saying groove is in the heart. That was delight, oh delight.
Speaker 2:What was that in the? Was that a 90 song? Yeah?
Speaker 3:Yeah, very early, but 90s on the last 91, 92. So good, so good oh so fun fact, we see mr Miyagi the character lamenting the loss of his wife and his son from world war two. In reality, pat marita Spent time in an internment camp while growing up.
Speaker 1:I was gonna say he was way too young. The. Yeah, correct right, right, right. But I mean, I thought that's where you're going with it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he lived in. Pat marita lived during world war two, again born and raised in the united states. But at the time there was this thing against japanese where. Look man, we don't know, you could be terrorists.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they put them in camp. They put them in camps. George takai was in that, one of those two.
Speaker 3:Really.
Speaker 2:The um, actually uh, prisoner of war camp was right there on the depot in new carmelin. That was a japanese prisoner of war camp.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow.
Speaker 3:There was another one of those, uh, one of the trails where my buddies and I go hiking, or the trails of tears. Yes, the trail of tears. No, that was for the american indians. Okay, uh, there was the. Uh, there was a, an internment camp Outside of carlisle, basically like between here and carlisle.
Speaker 1:Wow, hmm, who knew?
Speaker 2:is it haunted?
Speaker 3:No, okay, not to my knowledge. The next day the tournament arrives, despite some pre tournament hazing from a few cobra kai members, daniel wins his first match and we watch Daniel win again and again in a montage of scenes playing to the tune of you're the best, nothing's gonna ever keep you down.
Speaker 2:Heck, no, that's didn't the one dude, the first guy you thought? Didn't that look like a napoleon dynamite?
Speaker 1:Yeah, what was that guy? Yeah, he was not looking.
Speaker 3:Uh, yeah, intimidating the napoleon the acting, or I should say the the punch is thrown, were pretty lame in that verse.
Speaker 1:He was very much glass joe.
Speaker 3:He was your first. Oh, my god yeah opponent.
Speaker 2:It's probably like one of the writers or screen director, like one of the kids like get in there.
Speaker 3:Yeah just no so glass joe is the fighter. His first opponent is don flamenco. He has the rose in his mouth.
Speaker 1:No that's not the first one.
Speaker 3:Are you sure.
Speaker 1:I'm positive glass. Joe is the first guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, then don flamenco is the second he's don flamenco.
Speaker 1:second, he has the rose in his mouth.
Speaker 2:Oh shit.
Speaker 3:You're right, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 2:And then the third guy is uh, uh the pig guy, or um punching the belly king, king hippo king hippo.
Speaker 3:Oh, not bald bull, it is king hippo. My bad, and in fact the name the kid's name is billy Right, the character's name?
Speaker 1:Lily the kid, yeah, little mac little mac.
Speaker 3:God damn, I gotta play mike tyson's punch out. I have it right over, right over there we can play. I'm gonna beat it real quick, I'll beat tyson.
Speaker 1:I can beat him.
Speaker 2:Fucking game here. Yeah, getting well. Who's the guy before tyson? Uh, macho, mr Saman. Mr.
Speaker 1:Saman.
Speaker 2:Oh no, super macho super macho man yeah super macho, yeah he'd spend, yeah he was real muscular.
Speaker 3:I gotta play that game.
Speaker 1:Oh, there was also the third guy, so it was a glass, joe don flamenco. And then it was the guy Great tiger. He had the oh, turban.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you have to hit the turban and your body blows.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep Classic.
Speaker 2:Yeah vintage.
Speaker 1:uh, nintendo review yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, like old nintendo games.
Speaker 3:Hell yeah. Well, fight after fight, daniel makes his way to the semi-finals. First up, larusso versus bobby brown at the it's true, is he there? It is his prerogative to beat the shit out of daniel. It was a whole new addition at the, at the insistence of his sensei, bobby lands a cheap shot on daniel's leg and is disqualified. This does, however, automatically move daniel up to the finals.
Speaker 2:Bobby was a good one, right, he was one like I'm sorry, daniel, I don't want to do it. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but how can daniel compete with a bum leg? A little Miyagi magic can fix that. The final fight is soon at hand Daniel versus Johnny.
Speaker 2:It's funny that Mr Miyagi thing where he slaps his hands and rubs them together. Yeah, I do that to my kids. Sometimes they're like dad, this hurts and I do that whole thing they're like. Yeah, they're like what are you doing, all the Miyagi?
Speaker 3:Yeah, does it work.
Speaker 2:No, I think it does for them, because they're like little kids. They think you know what I mean If they fall like oh, down my leg I can't. I was like here, let me see it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, clap your hands, create some heat and put it on there You're like oh, I feel that that's basically helped.
Speaker 3:So we're talking about competitors, right as he's going, like earlier we were talking about his first fight against Napoleon Dynamite.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:So, as again at the montage of you're the best around, or you're the best Daniel's fighting all these varying people, and I think his first Cobra Kai fight is against this fat dude, this brown-haired fat guy.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:And he does this walk-up strut that he's like you know, they've already bowed and the fight's begun and he just walks up to Daniel and Daniel just knees him in the gut and he falls over Quick. So you can actually read the lips of. So Johnny and Chris are watching this. West Marine and Johnny. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you can read his lips. He says Johnny says to Chris he's not good, yeah, he's not good. You can see his lips moving. He says that about Daniel. No, he says it about the fat guy.
Speaker 1:About the fat guy.
Speaker 3:That Daniel just beat the shit out of Like justifying it. Yeah, I didn't catch that Matt you had mentioned. I guess Bobby is the. I guess the quote-unquote good-ish, good-ish.
Speaker 1:Is he the one that when they he's torn when they were out at the fence and he's like, hey, he had enough, johnny. Yes, exactly Johnny. Stop it, Johnny. That's Bobby.
Speaker 3:Okay, so we all have seen that hairstyle that Bobby sports. I'm curious, matt, yes, did you have that same haircut when you were a kid? Of course, of course.
Speaker 2:The part down the middle it's always class, it was so feathered. Actually, I think George had one of the best feathered dudes I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1:I believe it.
Speaker 2:Man so lush. I remember like he'd be in the bathroom like a towel and listening to like Loverboy.
Speaker 1:Like blow drying it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, blow drying.
Speaker 1:Man.
Speaker 3:Every George is working for the weekend.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's like working for the weekend. I can almost smell the brooch. Turn me loose. Faberge cologne Faberge.
Speaker 2:Ah, yeah, turn me loose, but no, the feather, I'm bringing that back. I love that track, which one turned me loose yeah. Oh, that whole album. I don't know, I forget what the album's called, but it's like. It's like those jeans, oh, loverboy album.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it might be Loverboy Working for the weekend.
Speaker 2:Yeah, great album. I'm saying like when I because cry to kids on all the time. But if ever, this montage is always something like I just keep on if I'm like flipping through. Like I just leave it and sit down and like a watch for like the three to five minutes at the end. The music Just makes you feel good.
Speaker 1:I love that music. I like any underdog story, so that's no different.
Speaker 2:Was he an underdog, though, in real life.
Speaker 1:I mean, you would say he had no formal training.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was trained by a master.
Speaker 3:He had two months at best of training. In fact, no, a month and a half.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you figure October.
Speaker 3:So this was after the Halloween dance, right so?
Speaker 2:But Miyagi was like his, like family history, like they were, he was passing on techniques that have been there since the beginning of Miyagi time.
Speaker 3:Of course, they had the stereotype that they couldn't have Chuck Norris train in him. It had to be somebody from Japan or China or wherever.
Speaker 2:No, I'm just like he might have not been like that much of an underdog. I think he was given a lot of Proper training. Yeah, like the best training that you could get.
Speaker 1:You have an edge.
Speaker 3:Well, as Mr Miyagi had once said to Daniel, as Daniel's complaining about the bullies, he says well, there's no such thing as bad students, only bad teacher.
Speaker 1:And I like, when they get to the match, he goes. I thought you knew what we're doing here in Miyagi. He's like no, I, I, I fall for my life. Now for points.
Speaker 3:There you go.
Speaker 1:So he's never fought in anything like this.
Speaker 3:While the climax commences, a punch to Johnny's torso lands Daniel with his first point. Thereafter, a scissor leg and a blow to the back of Johnny's head lands Daniel with his second point and Johnny with a bloody nose. Sweep the leg is the direction given to Johnny by Sensei Crease. That move gives Johnny his first point and Daniel a world of pain. Thereafter, an elbow to Daniel's ribcage lands Johnny with his second point. Frustrated with a slow progression of what should have been an easy victory for Johnny, johnny grabs hold of Daniel's bum leg and gives him an elbow to the back of the knee. All hope seems lost for Daniel. Tensions are high. Recalling his Sensei's crane technique, daniel calls upon this ancient Chinese secret and miraculously lands it flawlessly. This final kick to Johnny's face cements Daniel's victory. A humbled Johnny hands the winning trophy to Daniel and Mr Miyagi looks on smiling with satisfaction.
Speaker 1:You're all right, LaRusso yeah.
Speaker 3:See, he can be all right, he is a good guy.
Speaker 1:Come, johnny, put him in body bag, get him in my body bag.
Speaker 3:Good, johnny, which guy was that one that wasn't.
Speaker 1:Bobby, obviously yeah, that wasn't Bobby.
Speaker 3:It wasn't Bobby, it wasn't Dutch.
Speaker 2:It was Dutch, I think.
Speaker 1:It was either Tommy or Jimmy. Tommy or Jimmy.
Speaker 2:Who's the one that looked like he was in the Lost Boys with the blonde hair? Was that Jimmy?
Speaker 3:That was Dutch.
Speaker 2:Dutch.
Speaker 1:Who was Steve McQueen's kid and that was actually a dye job on that hair. Yeah, that was a pretty bad dye job too.
Speaker 3:Get him a body bag. What if they used a sun in for that?
Speaker 1:I remember sun in yeah.
Speaker 3:When you couldn't afford sun in, you would put lemon and water.
Speaker 2:Spray that on your hair. Spray that on your hair Spray that on your hair.
Speaker 1:I did that yeah. Some kids use Kool-Aid too.
Speaker 2:No, that was a diet Diet different colors.
Speaker 3:Is that a? Thing?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think girls did that and stuff.
Speaker 3:Before we get into.
Speaker 2:Mikey Zack and I did that one year with Kool-Aid, but Kool-Aid.
Speaker 3:You dyed your hair with Kool-Aid.
Speaker 2:Yeah, over the summer.
Speaker 3:Doesn't it just wash out?
Speaker 2:It does when you wash it out with soap and stuff. But you dye it in there. You just do a soft mix of it in the sink. You put red or blue. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:I remember that being a thing I do not remember that one.
Speaker 3:I do recall questioning this scene here, these fights. So Johnny's non-karate punch to the face got him no points. So this is just when he just basically hooks Daniel and hits him. He got no points with that, but Daniel had blows to the face. I should say Daniel received points for blows to the face.
Speaker 1:So what's the difference?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so what face or head blows are okay and which ones aren't?
Speaker 2:I think you're allowed not to close. It's like an open hand.
Speaker 1:Oh, maybe I think sense.
Speaker 2:I think when they don't wear the yeah, like an open hand to the face is a strike that counts, like if you punch a closed fist to the face. I think doesn't count.
Speaker 1:This makes sense now, okay, that does make sense there was like the karate thing was huge, back then Huge.
Speaker 2:Yeah, everybody was in the karate. People were doing all different types of karate.
Speaker 1:Chinese stars were all the rage.
Speaker 3:They certainly weren't num chucks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was wondering num chucks, chinese stars, all that. Do you think that was out? I remember around this time that was hot stuff. That was like the hot thing to have Chinese stars.
Speaker 3:Sure, you could buy them at Big M.
Speaker 1:Yep, yeah, the Big M market. Do you think this movie was the reason, or was there something else that I'm missing that the guy had his own karate stand.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 3:No. So you had the Kung Fu movies from the 70s and early 80s with the voiceovers. You'd see their mouths moving, but you'd hear English coming out. Those were big. Wushu is the name of that variety of movie, by the way. Wushu.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, yeah, that was the Wu.
Speaker 3:Tang and by Wushu I think it's WXU Wushu.
Speaker 2:But yeah, you could buy those like the sticks with the knife on the end, Shit yeah. You could buy, like the stars. You could buy those size or whatever they were called with the things, with the pokers, I don't know you could get anything at that freaking store. It was awesome.
Speaker 1:You get one of those like brass knuckles with the knife attached to it. You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:Dang Everybody wanted a switchblade.
Speaker 1:You would put your hands to it. It'd be like brass knuckles, but then it'd also be a knife, so you could punch or stab.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All kinds of things. The handle so it was just the handle of the knife Was open. Well, no, it had metal rings at the end of it into which you would insert your fingers to grab that knife.
Speaker 2:So you could stab yeah, Stab and oh I was thinking the. Rambo knife.
Speaker 3:That was all the rage too.
Speaker 2:Shit yeah, you would take the compass off the back and it had the matches and fishing lines hidden there. So one of those at the big M.
Speaker 1:The big M was a spot and you get some fresh what's chips there.
Speaker 2:I think at the time, I mean, I paid like 14 bucks for it, which is a lot of money.
Speaker 3:Cash Back in those days straight cash.
Speaker 1:Fun facts.
Speaker 3:Oh, I love this part.
Speaker 1:It's about that time.
Speaker 3:I love it even more because you too. I'm leaving it up to you to impress me. What do you?
Speaker 1:got. So I'll start off here with Ralph Macchio is in every scene of this film. There's not one scene where you don't see him.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's like Superman.
Speaker 1:Fun fact, that's crazy, he is like Superman.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a fun fact. Oh no, I just found this whole movie is a fun fact.
Speaker 1:The whole thing's fun.
Speaker 2:The whole thing is fun within itself.
Speaker 1:So the ref at the end of this movie, the guy at the very end who's officiating, the the mustache guy. Yes, His name is Pat E Johnson. He was a former student of Chuck Norris. I knew that.
Speaker 2:Hey.
Speaker 1:He was a former expert himself, so Daniel LaRusso, original name they were thinking for this movie. Anybody know?
Speaker 3:Butch.
Speaker 1:Butch Cassidy no, it was.
Speaker 3:DeVionne Charlemagne. That's the one I had heard I'm off, I can't remember.
Speaker 1:Daniel Weber.
Speaker 3:Yes, there it is Daniel Weber.
Speaker 2:And then they were like well, Is any like a producer or like a music guy?
Speaker 1:Daniel Weber, I don't know. He played for Michigan, I thought.
Speaker 2:Oh, daniel Weber.
Speaker 3:No, Spud Weber. Spud Weber.
Speaker 2:No, daniel Weber, Like, doesn't he make, like the soundtracks to like Disney movies.
Speaker 1:I mean he could I don't know, he might be a name like that. And how about Johnny Lawrence? You know his original name, no Matt.
Speaker 2:Todd, todd, todd.
Speaker 3:Kazinsky Johnny Coltrane.
Speaker 1:Yeah, donald Rice, which that doesn't sound.
Speaker 2:The names are based on the writers, like, I think, family, and that was where the whole concept of the story was. We went to train in martial arts and there was actually like a Miyagae guy or whatever they taught him.
Speaker 3:Did you say there was a Miyagae guy?
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is the name Miyagae or something like that. This is Sensei.
Speaker 1:So, talking about the ages, we said Machio 22. Elizabeth Shoe 20.
Speaker 2:Rob.
Speaker 1:Garrison. Tony O'Dell were 23. Chad McQueen 22. Rob Ron Thomas was 22. And William Zapka, who played Johnny Lawrence was 18. He was the youngest of them all that makes sense.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I had no idea that Machio was that old. He just looks like a baby.
Speaker 1:I remember like back when this came out and the movie was out and stuff and he was in all those magazines. It was a big deal that he was in these Teen Beats magazines. He was like 24, 25 by then, he was older.
Speaker 3:But that's Thank you for bringing that up, because I'm thinking about that this whole time. So in these Teen Beat magazines, which are intended for teens, they're looking at this grown ass, very adult man, like that's fucked up.
Speaker 1:It is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, rob Thomas, wasn't he even playing with Santana.
Speaker 1:Yeah, rob Thomas, matchbox, matchbox 20. Yeah, let me think here.
Speaker 3:Do we know any of the Kudahutashutas?
Speaker 2:instead of it was like everybody who was everybody in the 80s. Is that right?
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:No, I have a big list here, yep. So for Daniel Sean Penn, robert Downey Jr, charlie Sheen, john Crier, emilio Estevez.
Speaker 2:Could you imagine, john Crier?
Speaker 3:No, he would have sucked. I hate that guy.
Speaker 1:Nicholas Cage, Anthony Edwards, C Thomas Howe, Tom Cruise.
Speaker 2:Tom Cruise. He would have been fun, of course. Yeah, cruise could have been, of course.
Speaker 1:Right, eric Stoltz, db Sweeney and then Ralph Maggio got the role ultimately because of performance in the Outsiders.
Speaker 2:Oh, great move. Yes, they actually thought Tom Cruise was too tall for the role. He was too tall.
Speaker 1:He couldn't do the crane. Yeah, he couldn't reach his face from the kick. You kick him in the nuts. Yeah, you couldn't fight anybody.
Speaker 3:What's worse is that he would have been shorter than Mr Miyagi.
Speaker 1:His crane. Yeah, he would have kept getting disqualified for nut kicks.
Speaker 3:He would have needed a crane in order to pull off the crane technique.
Speaker 1:For sure, this was the top video rental of 1985.
Speaker 3:Makes sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can believe that.
Speaker 3:Sure.
Speaker 1:I know I probably rented it a million times. Hell yeah, supposedly you know. These are all these names we were throwing out. It's from the internet. So who knows it's from Jim Carrey audition.
Speaker 3:I don't hear that.
Speaker 1:Interesting.
Speaker 3:I don't know about that. One Wait for Johnny.
Speaker 1:Johnny or Daniel?
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, both.
Speaker 3:I guess he's like fuck it, I'll try either. He's like I'm.
Speaker 1:Johnny, okay, yeah, it would have been funny to see him, michael.
Speaker 2:J.
Speaker 1:Fox was considered for the title role, but he did back to the future.
Speaker 3:He chose wisely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and Elizabeth Shoe ended up hooking up with him then and those.
Speaker 3:I guess what in the sequel, then right. Correct, she replaced yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, the Sean Penn thing. He turned it down because he wanted to do more adult roles. That he later on said he thought Machio did a great job in it.
Speaker 2:Sean Penn would have been too serious.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so for the role of Ally, Demi Moore, Helen Hunt. They were both considered for that role.
Speaker 2:Helen Hunt's in the new true detective on HBO. They heard that was really good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it wasn't something. A movie that I watched recently Helen Hunt and it was like a really good movie.
Speaker 2:Wings.
Speaker 1:It was called. It was about no, no, it wasn't Wings, it was about a thing called Frogging. Did you ever hear of that Frogging? It's P-H-R-O-G-G-I-N-G.
Speaker 2:No, to explain.
Speaker 1:So Frogging basically is like these people vloggers and stuff people that video and put shit on YouTube. They'll go around and try to break into a house and see how long they can last with you, not knowing they're there. So it'll live in your attic.
Speaker 2:Jesus Christ, I saw some of that movie. Yeah, it was a great movie.
Speaker 1:They'll live in your basement.
Speaker 3:They'll live in you know, I don't really now I don't really want to give the way You're saying. This is more than minutes, this is like days.
Speaker 1:And like people think their house is haunted and they're like, oh shit, why is that open now? Why is this? Why is this? Like they screw with you while they're living there and they document it, but you got to do it in like a big house, you know where you can't do it in like a trailer or something like that.
Speaker 3:Holy shit, it's crazy. But it was a really good what's this called again, frogging, frogging, not soaking. But soaking.
Speaker 1:Now that's in the.
Speaker 2:Mormons, is it like a pH pH or just yeah, ph.
Speaker 1:R-O-G-G-I-N-G. Huh, here's a fun, funny one here. This is, and I can believe this but.
Speaker 3:But it is fun fact land.
Speaker 1:And I hate to be hogging all these, but no, you got them.
Speaker 1:But now this is supposedly. But Kyle Eastwood, son of Clint Eastwood, went out for the title role of the Crowdy Kid. He failed to get the part, denied, denied. Clint Eastwood was pissed, real upset. He banned all Coca-Cola products from the sets of any movie he was associated with. And at the time Columbia Studios was owned by Coca-Cola. So if you notice, in the movie in the beginning they had a Minute Maid Orange Juice out and they made a big deal of showing the Minute Maid and that was a product, coca-cola product.
Speaker 2:I guess of that company and also a Sprite can later on.
Speaker 1:I don't know why, and that he would even have pulled even care, because this is probably very early on in his career. But Machio supposedly didn't like that and like was pissed about the promotion of these Coke products. It's like, dude, you're in this movie getting paid. Deal with it, yeah.
Speaker 2:What he wanted the Coke products. He didn't.
Speaker 1:He was upset that they were promoting them because it all had to do with product placing. Because Coca-Cola owned Columbia, had a tie to it and he tried to cover the Sprite logo. They said in that scene if you pay close attention, what an ass you know.
Speaker 3:I'll tell you what, ralph if you're not acting in this movie, you're going to be acting in commercials.
Speaker 1:Right, stop trying to be so, machio, yeah.
Speaker 2:I thought what you did there. What was he really in after the Karate Kid series.
Speaker 1:Cobra Kai. Yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like after that, like what was he really in my?
Speaker 1:cousin Vinnie. Oh yeah, yeah, he was good in that.
Speaker 3:Other than that I got nothing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can't think of anything.
Speaker 3:I'm going to be Ralph Machio movies and that's it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um da da da. So William Zabka, after this movie, continued his karate training to the. He became a second degree green belt. So I don't know where that lies on the chart, if a green belt is close to black belt or how good that is.
Speaker 3:but I have no clue, no clue. I know that, unless I'm mistaken, this was Zabka's first movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, because he was 18. And yeah, elizabeth Shue at the time was enrolled at Harvard. Dang smart.
Speaker 3:Smart and sexy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, stopped their studies to be in this movie.
Speaker 2:That wonder if she ever went back. Figure if you're like to be Harvard educated, I mean they except like 2%.
Speaker 1:Well, you had your chance to ask her, and you missed it.
Speaker 2:I should have told her that.
Speaker 1:Just think of we would have did this before, that, I mean, you'd be able to go up there hey, we did this movie and ask her.
Speaker 2:I wonder like what stars are like, cause she's not like super huge, but she's big enough that people would definitely big enough. But, but I mean, like, do they get annoyed? Like if you would just say, hey, like, can I get a pick? You know what I mean. Like, where do you stop that at?
Speaker 1:Like, I don't know that the person would actually enjoy it, maybe for the recognition.
Speaker 3:Look, I gotta tell you, I bet that they all enjoy it for maybe the first few months of their career, exactly. And then it gets old really quickly.
Speaker 2:Cause, like if you can't even go out, like she was with her husband or I don't know if she's married, but I mean she was with somebody and they were like having a good time, you know talking, or whatever. You don't? Hey, elizabeth Shue, like I love your movies, can I get a picture or something like that?
Speaker 1:I don't know. Yeah, I got go. No, I'm sorry. I'm sure, like Zapp said, after a while it gets old.
Speaker 3:It gets really old, so old. I was in an elevator once with what's her name? Fleetwood Mac.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Steven X. Steven X.
Speaker 3:I got. I was in an elevator with. Steven X and her handler, and she was in the elevator the whole time. Like as soon as I jumped on, she put a coat over her head and, like zipped it up over her face, knowing full well that she would have to leave that elevator to go someplace else. Like so imagine just somebody walking up, or is this like?
Speaker 3:at Hershey or something, no this was at the one hotel in Philadelphia oh cool, oh, it's got the dome on it. What is it? God damn it. I can't remember. It was a hotel. Then they converted most of it to apartments. It was the God damn. It's right by City Hall. I can't remember, I'm terrible.
Speaker 1:So you were the only one on there with her. No, so there was a group of people.
Speaker 3:No, that was. It was my wife and I, and then Nixon her bike Her handler yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, I even this is on a much smaller level, but I'll never forget this, because they weren't big, they weren't. They were kind of big at the time and not. I mean, they had a couple of songs at the Bloodhound gang.
Speaker 2:I talked about them.
Speaker 1:So they played locally here at. It was called Galifte's.
Speaker 3:It was the Ritz Carlton, by the way. The Ritz, that was the hotel. Okay, I got you.
Speaker 1:They played a Galifte's across the river, which they had a little like a little bar and then like a stage and stuff underneath. I don't know if you remember that. So they came there, they had a tour bus and stuff. The roof is on fire. It was like that. There was their first big song kind of, and I was kind of hitting at the time. It was on MTV, they had videos and stuff. Well, they came there to play and it's a small venue. There was an opening band and all that and we're there hanging out and he's walking around like drinking beer and hanging out and all the guys are the one little. It was like a real small guy with yellow, with a blonde dreadlocks. The drummer, he was there. He was real nice. Jimmy Pop was walking around. We were walking into the bathroom and people were trying to talk to him. He's like I can't talk. I got it and he was like doing this thing I got to see. So I'm wondering, like with like that he probably does that, just so that he don't have to talk to people, but it's like that's only like a small level Like
Speaker 1:this guy is by no means popular, but I'll never forget that, thinking yeah, he's probably just don't want to be bothered with people talking to him.
Speaker 2:To be in the elevator with like Stevie next to her, probably like see, that's the whole thing. You don't want to be that person.
Speaker 3:You can't. I didn't say a word to her or the handler or anybody. I just remember getting on that elevator and as soon as I'm sure that she and her handler were hoping that they would go right to the ground floor, which is a tough ask if she's up in the penthouse. So I get on immediately. This jacket is zipped up over her face, like on the top of her head, which I'm sure we've all done right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's like putting up trying to. You're not going to fit your head through that hole and again. Then she's just pushed back into a corner and then her handlers there and between me and would be her, and then she's escorted off the elevator. Once we get to the lobby.
Speaker 2:You should have started like singing white winged off, yeah, break out your guitar, start playing. And your wife should have like jumped in. I'm sure that would have annoyed the shit out of her, I am sure.
Speaker 1:On the opposite end of that, a very famous person, Ice Cube, I met and was as nice as can be signed. Everybody you know we were down in Philly and he was hanging out the Holiday Inn in the lobby.
Speaker 3:We were going for a concert. Hotel Holiday.
Speaker 1:Inn and the Chiefs were playing the Eagles the next day. It's down by the stadium there. We were going to the concert the next day. It was like corn, it was the family values tour and he was on tour with them. We all walk in. We're like, oh there's all. These big dudes were like they must play for the Chiefs because the Chiefs are in town.
Speaker 1:Well, they were his bodyguards who owned the Chiefs and they part in there. There he is and my buddy's like it's Ice Cube winner. He was as nice as can be, Took time with everybody.
Speaker 2:They said Kevin Bacon, I saw him play at that when I showed you guys those pictures. But they said afterwards like he had a table and everybody, he sat and talked to everybody and like everybody waited to go and talk to him and he sat there for like 10, 15 minutes talking to people. Like people were waiting around for like an hour to talk to him. I was like shit, we left early because we're like we're old.
Speaker 1:We wanted to get out of the traffic. That's an opportunity where we should have been there with like our stuff. Kevin, can we get five minutes?
Speaker 2:But yeah, they said he was like cool as can be.
Speaker 1:But I could believe that with him. He seems like down there. So one last one here. I have the car given to Daniel, that 1948 yellow Ford the Lux. He still owns it to this day and it appeared in the Copacá TV series.
Speaker 3:I didn't know he owned it. I saw it in the series, but I didn't know that he owned it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was given to him after completion of the film. They said yeah, it's his, wow, yeah.
Speaker 2:I wonder, if he was like I, should have chose the other car then if I knew what I'd have kept it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I wonder, yeah, cause you wonder if he really liked that one, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:The car would have been cool. Minus, for my sake, I don't want a convertible and I definitely don't want a yellow car.
Speaker 2:The color was weird, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:One other thing I wanted to go back to. At the very end and it kind of when I'm watching it I'm like this doesn't seem to fit. Did you guys think anything about the promoter that was kind of announcing the whole thing?
Speaker 3:He's wearing that blue leisure suit. Yep With sideburns, yep, yeah.
Speaker 1:And it looks like cousin Eddie's outfit from Correct. I'm like this guy's the promoter that's running this, because it looked like a huge, big event. I mean, there was tons of people there. It seemed like an odd.
Speaker 2:It's like the all valley.
Speaker 1:Yeah, was they all valley me.
Speaker 3:Yes, the whole valley yeah.
Speaker 1:Or maybe it's multiple valleys, but he just didn't seem to fit that profile of like a promoter for that.
Speaker 2:Maybe they just like looking like they got somebody they thought was like a promoter type, like world wrestling, they might have thought about.
Speaker 3:Dude Matt, I can't believe you said that, because I look at that guy and I think of maybe a younger Mount to the south Bobby, the brain he knew.
Speaker 1:Bobby the brain? Yeah, yeah, I was thinking that too. The wrestling?
Speaker 2:The wrestling was doing the casting. And they're like oh, this guy looks cool. We'll take him over the top.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was a fun one. You guys got anything else we missed?
Speaker 3:I got nothing else. I know that for me this was super fun. This was all of our childhoods. You know, movie a must watch. Just a great, great, feel good movie.
Speaker 1:Speaking of that, back to the last thing we do Late fee, return or burn. So why don't we start Start with zap this time Late free, return or burn.
Speaker 3:I you know what I might actually late fee this one.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I would late fee this one. Now again, this is taking away the whole idea of being able to stream and all that bullshit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's make a rule that, like when we, when we do these movies, we're talking about it's 1985.
Speaker 3:What we would do at the time of the movie.
Speaker 1:Put yourself in those shoes.
Speaker 3:I would, I would late fee this.
Speaker 1:I agree I'm late feeing it because, if I you know, I remember the first time I probably saw it was probably only HBO, but if I did run it, I know I watched it again and like really enjoyed it. So same thing for me. Late fee, matt, what you got.
Speaker 2:Um, just yeah, I just remember watching on HBO. If I had to yeah, if I rented it I would probably think about when I had to return it, but I probably try to watch it as much as I can.
Speaker 1:So you're holding it but probably getting it back.
Speaker 3:I'm giving it back but, back in time, but with multiple watches. Yes, Multiple watches of course.
Speaker 1:So we got two late fees on one return. No burn yet.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 1:So that's good.
Speaker 3:Not this one. This is an American classic.
Speaker 1:It definitely is. Americans landed and said show me the eighties. I'd say here check, check this out.
Speaker 2:Yep, did they archive this movie? Yet I know they just said uh, uh, home Alone was just archived in the national treasuries of uh, whatever, so for like it's, it'll be encased, so further generations like 3000 years from now would be able to watch it.
Speaker 1:They'll probably put ODB podcast in there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:If they're smart check your local Smithsonian.
Speaker 1:Yep In the vaults. In the vaults, that's right.
Speaker 2:Deep in the back.
Speaker 1:In the back.
Speaker 2:In the back of the covenant.
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