Ever felt that rush of nostalgia when a classic rock tune hits the airwaves? We're cranking it up a notch with a blast from the past as Nutley Nick—you know him as West Virginia Nick—joins us with his special Japanese version of Bon Jovi's "Slippery When Wet." Strap in for a ride through the history of New Jersey's rock icons, where we uncover the original album artwork that never made the cut and dissect the anthem that almost wasn't, "Livin' on a Prayer." We'll even toss in some good old debate: Is Jon Bon Jovi or Bruce Springsteen the true New Jersey hero?
As we go track by track, we'll hit you with lesser-known facts that'll make even the most die-hard fans do a double-take. Just how does Desmond Child's songwriting mastery resonate with the working class? What's the connection between "You Give Love a Bad Name" and Bonnie Tyler? And let's not forget the harmonious showdowns—Richie Sambora's guitar solos meet anthemic choruses, making for a rock symphony that's stood the test of time.
To cap it all off, we're pulling back the curtain on the music industry's inner workings: Did teenagers in New York really pick the hits? How do artists like Prince continue to influence music beyond the grave? And we've got a heartwarming story about Bon Jovi’s lasting friendship with Skid Row's Dave "The Snake" Sabo. Whether you're here to reminisce or to discover the roots of rock 'n' roll, you're in for a treat that's as timeless as the classics we're celebrating.
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Ever felt that rush of nostalgia when a classic rock tune hits the airwaves? We're cranking it up a notch with a blast from the past as Nutley Nick—you know him as West Virginia Nick—joins us with his special Japanese version of Bon Jovi's "Slippery When Wet." Strap in for a ride through the history of New Jersey's rock icons, where we uncover the original album artwork that never made the cut and dissect the anthem that almost wasn't, "Livin' on a Prayer." We'll even toss in some good old debate: Is Jon Bon Jovi or Bruce Springsteen the true New Jersey hero?
As we go track by track, we'll hit you with lesser-known facts that'll make even the most die-hard fans do a double-take. Just how does Desmond Child's songwriting mastery resonate with the working class? What's the connection between "You Give Love a Bad Name" and Bonnie Tyler? And let's not forget the harmonious showdowns—Richie Sambora's guitar solos meet anthemic choruses, making for a rock symphony that's stood the test of time.
To cap it all off, we're pulling back the curtain on the music industry's inner workings: Did teenagers in New York really pick the hits? How do artists like Prince continue to influence music beyond the grave? And we've got a heartwarming story about Bon Jovi’s lasting friendship with Skid Row's Dave "The Snake" Sabo. Whether you're here to reminisce or to discover the roots of rock 'n' roll, you're in for a treat that's as timeless as the classics we're celebrating.
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https://freesound.org/people/Sami_Hiltunen/sounds/527187/ Eerie intro music
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https://freesound.org/people/Zott820/sounds/209578/ Cash register
https://freesound.org/people/Exchanger/sounds/415504/ Fun Facts Jingle
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Hey man?
Speaker 2:what are you listening to, man? I'm listening to the Vintage album review in the old dirty basement.
Speaker 3:Well, turn it up, man.
Speaker 4:Hello everybody and welcome to the inaugural edition of Vintage album review.
Speaker 1:Thank you, here we go and the inauguration.
Speaker 4:I try to get everybody to jump in on that one. That's right, we'll get that next time.
Speaker 1:Got a special guest in the house and I felt like I should dress up for the occasion. So go on YouTube. Check out our YouTube channel Old, dirty, basement and Nuttley. What do you think about get up?
Speaker 4:You didn't announce a special guest.
Speaker 1:Nuttley Nick.
Speaker 4:Nuttley Nick, ladies and gentlemen, hey everybody.
Speaker 1:What's going on, Nuttley?
Speaker 4:AKA West Virginia Nick.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, aka one of our biggest fans.
Speaker 3:Happy to be here, guys. Good, good, good. The world premiere, the world premiere of the vintage album review.
Speaker 4:We keep on missing that. I think we're it's fine. We're all trying to say it together We'll get there. We'll get there.
Speaker 1:This is something that you and Zap are really talking about. I know, zap, you love this first album as well, correct, no?
Speaker 2:so I'm going to bring everything back into speed here. So this is the brainchild of Nuttley Nick. This is absolutely his idea, and I say that with specificity, because this is this is going to be fun. Like this is a great way to to move this and do something different. I mean, I think this is a great idea. Thank you, kudos to you, nuttley. This is a great, great idea. Now, with respect to this particular album we will be reviewing today, it is not my particular favorite Bon Jovi album. However, to stay true to Nick's wishes, the idea is to what to talk about. What album was a particular artist's breakout album? Okay, like, what put them on the charts and I mean, and in this one, this guy, this one made these people a worldwide success.
Speaker 4:It's nice, Nice. What is the album Nuttley?
Speaker 3:Slippery when Wet by Bon Jovi. Oh right, they're third studio album.
Speaker 4:I thought we were doing New Jersey.
Speaker 1:No, you didn't prepare. Oh, oh, you can talk about that one.
Speaker 4:I knew it was slippery.
Speaker 3:That's a much better album than this one, by the way.
Speaker 4:Actually, yes, new Jersey is, I think, their best.
Speaker 2:In my humble opinion, it is their best. I spent a lot of time with that album. I mean months, if not years, with that album. Just over and over and over again. It's fantastic, but again the top of this broke.
Speaker 4:Exactly, they had all, the, all these songs that you're about to hear. You would hear them on the radio, which which really, like you said, a breakthrough album, and that's what we're trying to do here.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm going to get comfortable before I get into all the all the facts and stuff on this.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this made them go from opening acts to headliners. Absolutely.
Speaker 2:So curious at the time. For whom were they opening? I know I'm almost positive Van Halen was one of them.
Speaker 3:They opened for Kiss also.
Speaker 4:Nice, was that in Harrisburg, or actually the city island?
Speaker 3:Don't know I wasn't living here.
Speaker 4:Have to look that up.
Speaker 1:So let's get into this. I guess I'm just wondering what release date on this album August 18th 1986, the label Mercury and Vertigo Do you ever hear of Vertigo? No?
Speaker 4:Mercury, I know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Mercury is a big name Another song by you too, Vertigo. Vertigo yeah Studio. They recorded this at Little Mountain in Vancouver, canada. And Vancouver is that on the East or West coast of Canada? I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 4:I think that's straight up North in it.
Speaker 1:Is it East?
Speaker 4:No, it's West, I don't know what damn thing about Canada?
Speaker 2:Why did they record in Canada?
Speaker 3:Vancouver is all the way out West by Washington state.
Speaker 1:Probably the same reason they do movies there.
Speaker 4:Maybe it's cheaper, Cheaper possibly quieter, more beer, eh yeah.
Speaker 1:And I guess your only competition up there is Rush Maybe that too. I don't know.
Speaker 3:But Brian Adams, yeah, brian Adams.
Speaker 1:Okay yeah, true.
Speaker 2:We'll hear from him later.
Speaker 4:Michael J Fox.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, is he in a band oh, no, not a band. No, he did invent that I'd have his back to the future. That's right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he learned how to play the guitar from Back to the Future, but he wasn't in a band, but he was in a band in Light of Day, oh good movie Going back.
Speaker 1:Was that the stock car movie?
Speaker 2:No, that was Days of Thunder Days of Thunder I don't know. I get confused with the names. They're all over the place.
Speaker 1:So length on this 43 minutes 49 seconds. So we're used to doing the vintage cinema review, so obviously these albums are going to be a little bit less. I do think this is kind of a short album, though, when I was looking at the tracklist thing and stuff which we'll get into. But yeah, that's pretty much all I have for that, so I'll turn it over to Zap for the band members and other fun facts.
Speaker 2:Absolutely so. Here are the band members and album contributors. We've got John Bon Jovi, lead and backing vocals, rhythm guitar, acoustic guitar. We've got Richie Sambora on all other guitars and backing vocals. We've got Alec John Such on backing vocals and bass, tico Torres on drums, percussion and finger cymbals and David Bryan on backing vocals and keyboards. Additional musicians include Tom Keenleyside on saxophone, hugh McDonald on bass for living on a prayer, joni Bye on backing vocals and Nancy Nash on backing vocals From the production team. We've got Bruce Fairburn, producer horns and percussion. Now, I love this guy, by the way side topic, before I go any further, I love this dude.
Speaker 1:I was fair burn.
Speaker 2:I was first introduced to him, at least you know, being becoming familiar with him with his work on Aerosmith's Pump album.
Speaker 1:What was on that pump album? Was that like in the 90s or?
Speaker 2:So Pump came out in 89.
Speaker 1:89.
Speaker 2:And that was the one with. I mean, Janie's Got a Gun, Okay.
Speaker 4:Okay, janie got it, that was.
Speaker 2:Love and Elevator.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yes, okay, what it takes. Great, great album. I probably spent as much time with that album as I did with Bon Jovi's New Jersey album Fun fact. Anyway, we've also got Bob Rock, who was the engineer and in charge of mixing. First heard of Bob Rock, by the way, he produced Dr Feel Good by Motley Crue Fun fact. Tim Critch, an assistant engineer, george Marino, digital remastering, bill Levy on artwork and art direction, mark Weiss on photography and George Corsillo on design.
Speaker 4:I thought he was in Seinfeld.
Speaker 1:Yeah, George Corsillo and Mark Weiss. I wonder if he's related to Jess.
Speaker 2:We had one from a nice friend and Sean, her brother, the snowman.
Speaker 4:Last name's Weiss.
Speaker 1:Snowman and that Bob Rock. Is that like a Flintstones guy? Sounds like a Flintstones?
Speaker 4:Yes, Tico Torres, I don't know finger symbols with something. I thought percussion just covered that.
Speaker 1:You would think, who plays that breathalyzer thing? The talk box, the talk box.
Speaker 2:Richie Sambora, of course, because it's connected to his guitar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yes.
Speaker 2:I got you.
Speaker 1:So I guess that's it for that. We'll turn it over to Matt for the track listing Synapsis.
Speaker 4:The track listing for Slippery. One Wet, the first song, let it Rock. Song two you Give Love a Bad Name. Song three Living on a Prayer. I thought I was living, but it is living.
Speaker 1:Living On a Prayer Yup.
Speaker 4:Four Social Disease. I guess that was kind of like a filler song there. Yeah, that wasn't really too big, not a good one, yeah, not a good one. Five Wanted Dead or Alive.
Speaker 1:Nice Flip it over now.
Speaker 4:Yes. Side B Raise your Hands. One song without love. Third song I Die For you. Four song Never Say Goodbye. If you're in any dance in the 80s it's a big one.
Speaker 1:Big one, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4:And number five, I think the worst song on this album Wild In the Streets.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like the Circle Jerks version better. Wild In the Streets.
Speaker 3:Wow, yeah, I played definitely Worst one on the album.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Social.
Speaker 4:Disease Wild In the Streets I differ.
Speaker 2:There we go. I think Social Disease might be the best, but we'll get there.
Speaker 1:I guess that's it for the fun stuff there. I guess we'll get into the fun facts of this album. So what do you guys think? What do you got on it? What do you want to talk about?
Speaker 2:Well, so from the gate, I know that Nutley has, in fact he brought with him a fun fact. We can take a look right at it. There it is.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, the original cover.
Speaker 1:Hold it up to that camera over there, that one's live right now. You can probably get it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, there you go.
Speaker 1:Get that. There it is. Yeah, I can even put it up on screen, actually with the magic of editing. But yeah, you got a Japanese version of Slippery Moon White, correct?
Speaker 3:This is so. What's the Japanese import?
Speaker 1:What's the story behind that?
Speaker 3:This was the original cover, because the guys were recording in Vancouver and they were at a strip club and their testosterone was high. This is what I was reading and that was this was one of the strippers.
Speaker 1:I got you the stripper's there. That was her.
Speaker 3:That was her, but the record company didn't think it would sell and places would not sell it.
Speaker 1:I got you, so they flipped from that to what a trash bag or something, a garbage bag.
Speaker 3:Is that what it was A wet garbage bag.
Speaker 2:And what you're not seeing out there, if you're not watching this on YouTube. The original cover is that of a woman's torso. She's wearing a wet t-shirt that reads Slippery, moon Wet. In fact, the t-shirt reminds me of a Hulkamania yellow rip away t-shirt. For sure, that's what it looks like.
Speaker 4:I actually thought that was John Bon Jovi. Just in a t-shirt I got it.
Speaker 1:No chest there, though. You got to have the chest there pop off.
Speaker 4:Oh, that's right yeah.
Speaker 1:Because he is one hairy dude.
Speaker 4:Indeed.
Speaker 1:I mean, as am I, so I can relate, but I don't think he did much maintenance back in the day.
Speaker 3:Kip Winger too. He looks a little hairy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, kip Winger here in the studio. If you go on YouTube or I'm sure you've seen our stuff we have Kip Winger in the background. Very much looks like John Bon Jovi, but I don't, I mean, I could tell the difference.
Speaker 4:It's the hair. The 80s, 80s rockers all look the same.
Speaker 2:People didn't shave back then Everybody was hairy-chested hairy everywhere.
Speaker 4:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Razors didn't use of razors didn't come in until 90s porn.
Speaker 1:I missed that era.
Speaker 4:How natural, as they say.
Speaker 1:So what else you guys got on? Like, what are some standout tracks? Like, what do you guys like about the album, dislike about it? I got a, you know, I got a story about it, but you know somebody else take it.
Speaker 2:I mean. So I want to point this directly back to Nick. So the first thing I'm thinking of is living on a prayer. So incredible song, great, great, great song. Most fans consider this their I should say Bon Jovi's signature song. What would you say about that, nick?
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, definitely, okay, definitely. Their signature song Cause you know you give love a bad name was one of their singles beforehand and that was big, but they were still opening acts. But when Libidonna prayer came out with Tommy and Gina, it just hit home for a lot of blue collar workers in New Jersey.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and spoke to them.
Speaker 3:And it they blew up. After that the video on MTV was on. You know constant replay that. You know that made the band that song. And John did not like the song.
Speaker 2:That's correct. That's funny, that is correct. He would their first recording, their first recording of it. He hated it.
Speaker 3:He thought it was he just didn't think it was going to be a hit.
Speaker 2:Just good enough. So fortunately Richie convinced him that's right, man, we I love being able to finish your sentences, not Lee and Sam Bore convinced him that it was a hit in the making and it's it's. We can do this, man, we can do this. The band re-recorded and they released that second version on the album and that's the the version we've all come to know and love.
Speaker 3:Now the original version is out there on a box set called a hundred million. Bon Jovi fans can't be wrong. It's a hidden track. So if you look, if you have that box set five CDs I think there's a DVD in there too. You have it, I do have it.
Speaker 1:I should have brought it with me, yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm just moving on a prayer. Mm it's it's a hidden track at the end of and it's a different version of it. It's the original recording of Living on sound different, like the whole arrangement and everything's different.
Speaker 1:Intrigued intrigued.
Speaker 2:Nick is the version that we've all come to know and love. Is that featured on the box set?
Speaker 3:So to be clear, did the bit, the baseline. There's different drum tracks and that's when they use the talk box on. Well they didn't have they didn't have the talk box on the original version.
Speaker 2:I'll just get right to the chase. Are there two versions of that song?
Speaker 3:there are two versions of the box set on. The box set. No, it's just the original.
Speaker 2:Wow, so they didn't include on their box set the song that is the sick? The signature version of that song? Probably not. Wow, that's amazing. I have to check out that box.
Speaker 1:I mean, I guess it makes sense, Like why would they have it if, if you're buying that, you probably have living on a prayer somewhere, so you would think that, but there are I mean I there countless compilation albums out there.
Speaker 2:I mean you'll hear different versions of different songs. I mean, look at songs that were done Original recordings then they were done, let's say, acoustically or a live version somewhere that might even be better than the original. They completely exist, that you might in fact find those you may.
Speaker 1:So, matt, what was your first experience with his album Like? Do you remember back then?
Speaker 4:Yeah, I remember this. It was a big one. The thing I have with living on a prayer now. Did they, did they write this song? Or was it written for them? Or was this a? Written by Sam Bora? Written by.
Speaker 3:Desmond Child helped. He was a huge writer, did a lot of bands. He helped out with you know bad name without love, I'd die for you and then prayer Yep. But he also helped write. He has a book out too. I just got my son.
Speaker 1:He worked with share, I think, to us kiss wrote some songs with them.
Speaker 4:Because a lot of these songs, like you, you hear these and you think it's like an anthem of these guys growing up hard like that. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Like you know, he had a hard job, like the unions on strike, all this stuff. You know she's working there trying to support them, but it's. It's kind of the same thing, like I thought springsteen was like a real like New Jersey guy in that sense, but he never had to experience half the shitty things about right, so he's writing from yeah, not really from a really yeah not writing from a real place, just getting songs made for you.
Speaker 4:But I think when you hear this anthem you you kind of relate to John Bon Jovi as being like growing up like that or like working class.
Speaker 3:Yes, working class here, that's a good way to put it. That might know this Question. Go for it, tommy and Gina live it on a prayer. Yeah, real people. They were also mentioned in another later Bon Jovi song. Do you know which one?
Speaker 2:Like Tommy and Gina, you never back down. It's on the New Jersey album. I can tell you that it is not it is it is not are you sure?
Speaker 3:100% positive.
Speaker 2:Okay, Well they're on this album. Give me a second.
Speaker 4:Is it you give love?
Speaker 2:wait, wait, wait, wait. Are you sure it's not? It's my life. It's my life, Okay well then, shit, you're right that it's not on this and it's not on it's not on New Jersey. Yeah, it is on the, it's my what?
Speaker 4:what album? One of their crappier ones.
Speaker 3:No one of their better ones, damn, I'm drawing a blank.
Speaker 2:It came out in the 90s. Oh hell.
Speaker 1:I don't know, bon Jovi, is it with long hair?
Speaker 4:Bon Jovi, or short hair Bon Jovi short hair. Okay, that's why I don't know it. I kind of lost, yeah, with the bond, that also but you know what I'm wrong.
Speaker 2:It did not come out in the 90s. The one that crossroads came out in the 90s and that was a quasi compilation album. It's my life came out in the definitely in the 2000s. That oh fun fact that song also incorporates a talk box.
Speaker 1:It's my life, that's sure does. I know the song. I didn't you know indeed I don't know the album or anything like that fun facts.
Speaker 2:It's we're talking about living on it. Brett, back to live it on a prayer. That song is actually rated number one on VH ones list of the 100 greatest songs of the 80s.
Speaker 1:Oh, for real. Living on a prayer, for real because it tells the story.
Speaker 4:That's what that was great about the song, I think.
Speaker 3:It's on the album crush crush which came out whenever 2000 there you go.
Speaker 2:Thank you for helping me walk that one through.
Speaker 3:Which also has my ultimate favorite Bon Jovi song on it.
Speaker 4:What, yes, what, what, which one?
Speaker 3:Captain crash and the beauty queen from Mars? Oh, I've never heard that is it.
Speaker 1:Love that song. That's a special one, my favorite. You know that one. No, I don't know that one either.
Speaker 2:No, that sounds like something. That sounds like something the Beatles threw away.
Speaker 1:It's a good song, okay, so I trust you for me, man, this like when this album or this is there playing this on the radio, big time back and when it first came. I don't know when did this like really hit, like living on a prayer and all that I'm assuming came out. I just have memories of like being in. I was probably 1011 at the time.
Speaker 2:So the first single was you give love a bad name. So if the album came out in 86, you give love a bad name was the first single for 86.
Speaker 1:But for me, the one that really, like I remember, like was all over the place, was living on a prayer which would have came out probably, I mean that was the second one.
Speaker 2:In fact, that was their second single.
Speaker 1:So you think that would have been in 87 then, or it was late 86 87 when slippery came out.
Speaker 3:They were still an opening act and I have a ticket stub from my first Bon Jovi show, august 7th 1987 in New Jersey. That's awesome so that's when they had started.
Speaker 2:Nutley was eight years old dude. That's awesome.
Speaker 1:How were you there, nutley?
Speaker 4:15 oh a young kid. That's what I meant. Yeah, I wasn't far off.
Speaker 3:I was there with my sister and there was a bunch of her friends there.
Speaker 1:So what I was going to get back to is I remember there was a girl that you know I was like I said probably 10 or 11, and you know your boyfriend, girlfriend, but you're not really and she was weighing the Bon Jovi and I remember walking up to her house she was like talking about Bon Jovi out, you know, and she gave me the cassette. And I wasn't into that kind of music at all, but living on the prayer was on the radio or whatever, and I liked that song and I was like, oh okay, I'll check out, check out the rest of the album. I did like some you know most of the other songs on there, um, one of which ended up being one of the movies I love the young guns, the one in dead or alive.
Speaker 4:That's what I'd say was one of the biggest ones.
Speaker 1:I knew from this album.
Speaker 2:It wasn't in young guns.
Speaker 4:No, that wasn't a young, young.
Speaker 2:The song you're thinking of is a John Bon Jovi solo song.
Speaker 1:Oh, blaze the glory. That's where he shot down. So one of the dead or alive was not in. Uh Was not in that movie.
Speaker 4:No wow.
Speaker 2:In my memory banks it was featured in. Well, we'll get the.
Speaker 1:Mandela effect. But anyway, that was like my first experience really with this as an album. Um, I probably would have never discovered any of these other tracks other than her giving me that cassette. But there again, like I said, this is not really my wheelhouse, so you talking any other Bon Jovi, I'm pretty much lost on it. But uh, I do. I would say, though at the time this was huge Bon Jovi, that summer, I mean. I'm sure, zapp, you remember matt, of course. Uh, around here, I mean anywhere, you went, I was.
Speaker 2:I was 10 years old at the time, but I mean, it's even then, it was all over the place, right?
Speaker 3:I think it's when you think about growing up in jersey, where he's from.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, so I can imagine where radio stations mtv everywhere, do you? Think you like Bon Jovi so much because of that? Do you think you would love them as much as you do if they weren't from new jersey, like? Or do you think that just enhances it for you? Does it make a difference? Doesn't make any difference? Doesn't make it like?
Speaker 3:springsteens from jersey.
Speaker 1:Right, but you don't. I still like the music right, but you're not like a huge could have been from california, I don't care.
Speaker 4:Right, it's his. You saying you don't like springsteen. Oh, I love springsteen. Oh, okay, I didn't know like I. He's not one of my favorites but I dig like a lot of his songs.
Speaker 3:Well, like some things, like the one uh video, bon Jovi's video for um Slip from 7800 Fahrenheit Yep drawing a blank. Um, damn it, zapp, help me out.
Speaker 2:I'm trying, dude, I've got the same blank the video on mtv.
Speaker 3:They're filming at seaside heights on the boardwalk at the board jersey.
Speaker 4:I've spent.
Speaker 3:I've spent spent many days down there like right, where they film this video. Yeah in and out of love. That's an image.
Speaker 2:Oh, thank you, there it is.
Speaker 3:Thank you so kind of like you know him being from jersey, from the jersey short and yeah, it hits home a little bit. I could relate right.
Speaker 4:So who's bigger? As, in saying that they're from jersey, would it be jbj or would it be springsteen?
Speaker 3:Springsteen has been around longer.
Speaker 1:Oh, who's the bigger artist? That's a tough one yeah that's a.
Speaker 3:Different genre of music. Yeah, right, yeah, when you say bigger.
Speaker 2:Is it bigger fan base? Is it bigger album sales? I'm thinking like, as as far as New Jersey is like.
Speaker 4:Who do they love the most new New Jerseyans?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that would be a good question.
Speaker 4:I don't know. Yeah, that's a tough one.
Speaker 3:That is a tough one because Sinatra's also from jersey. There's another one.
Speaker 1:I was gonna say name a third band or artist from New Jersey there you go. How about a fourth one?
Speaker 2:Jesus come on.
Speaker 3:Trickster.
Speaker 1:Trickster.
Speaker 2:Trickster love don't come easy.
Speaker 1:Love that cereal.
Speaker 4:They're not competing.
Speaker 1:Love don't come.
Speaker 4:Tricksters are for kids.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, trickster from Paramus, New Jersey.
Speaker 2:Oh wow, are you sure? Love don't come easy, was not trickster?
Speaker 3:That was white line.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:Isn't he, uh, the reggae dude?
Speaker 4:No.
Speaker 2:Oh, god damn it Not. Lee, you're right, that is white line.
Speaker 4:You never heard of white line Dave. Seriously, I heard the name.
Speaker 1:I thought he was, uh like a reggae artist, so that's like a metal.
Speaker 3:Mike tramp is the lead singer. He still makes music.
Speaker 2:He's from Denmark and he does a lot of stuff over there by far and away, though, the greatest talent in white line has to be veto Brata Without one of the best guitars. He is, he is a virtuoso.
Speaker 4:Well, when the children cry, remember that was like a 1988 or 89.
Speaker 1:That's mad line.
Speaker 4:No. Now mad line is the reggae guy yeah, that's it, I know it good like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah, that's mad line, yeah, that's white line. I know that song white line is what? Yeah, when the children cry was big when we were probably in like eighth grade, seventh or eighth grade. I know that one yes man, this train is way the fuck. That's okay, hey, no, we're going with music.
Speaker 3:Did you anything?
Speaker 4:music related? Yeah, but is it as a go?
Speaker 3:has anyone seen the movie disorderly's?
Speaker 2:Yes, does that start with fat boys? Yes, okay.
Speaker 3:Now there is a song that that was recorded for slippery one wet that didn't make it on there.
Speaker 4:Yep, I saw that made by the fat boys.
Speaker 1:No by bonjovi, that wouldn't have fitted on that album.
Speaker 3:They want to made it, it would have it. It's a song that, yeah, it should have been on there.
Speaker 4:And it was in the movie.
Speaker 3:It's in the movie disorderly's. It's called edge of a broken heart. You were just I was saying you're just listening to it, it fits the mold for slippery one wet.
Speaker 1:It would have fit in there perfectly. I love that movie disorderly's. I remember the night before. I think it would have been Sixth grade. I couldn't sleep that night because you know, the first day of school you can't sleep and I stayed up and watched disorderly's like two in the morning or whatever the fat boys, that was a good flick.
Speaker 4:It was like some old dude try to get their money. Yeah, they were like work.
Speaker 1:They were working in like, uh like they were like a nursing. Yeah, yeah, it was a good flick.
Speaker 2:Not late. That song edge of a broken heart? That's not to be confused with the same. So the song the same name done by vixen, is it?
Speaker 3:No, it's not okay living on the edge of a broken heart that one. No, the name of the song is edge of a broken heart.
Speaker 4:No, I think is that yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:The song by vixen is incredible. I am not familiar, however, with the banjo v version At all, or I should say the banjo v song at all. But, fun fact, speaking of banjo v songs and in fact banjo v songs that are on this album that, oh holy shit, we're reviewing, there is a song on there called you give love a bad name. So this was the first single. This was the first single off of this album. That song was originally recorded by bonnie tyler under a completely different title, with completely different lyrics. Same song, just completely different lyrics. And the title was if you were a woman and I was a man.
Speaker 1:Yes, so that was what desmond child. He had written it and tweaked it for him. Okay, he actually did for bonjov.
Speaker 2:He did that with bonnie tyler and she released it and it flopped and he took that song that he had helped to write. He took it back and said hey, you know, hey, richie, hey john, let's rework this song and maybe it could be a hit for you. And they did, and for damn sure it was was she country or something?
Speaker 1:No, that was total eclipse of the heart, bonnie tyler country.
Speaker 2:What did she sing? Total eclipse of the heart. Bonnie tyler did yeah, thank you. Total eclipse of the heart. Okay, she did. It's a heartache. Um, she did. I need a hero.
Speaker 4:Looking out for a hero.
Speaker 2:Yeah, look at her.
Speaker 4:Oh bonnie tyler yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I knew that first song that I named, but I don't know that any of those other ones. But yeah, I did read that, what you were saying about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah man, that's wild as hell.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so stand out tracks on this. Notly, what are we looking at like? How do you rate these songs on here? Let's somebody, if somebody, I should say if you were to introduce somebody to bonjovi, would you tell them to start on living on a prayer? Would you tell them to start at well?
Speaker 3:that's, that's their signature song, living on a prayer. Now, I've heard that version, you know, half a million times. There's I, I like the version. Uh, there was a concert that they did. It's called inside out. You could find it on youtube. Different concert clips from uh, the metal and stadium went before it was met life london and madison square garden. So inside out, the liven on a prayer version on it's, I mean, it's live version, not a studio Phenomenal, phenomenal, but that you know that's, that's their signature song. So, yeah, someone who's never heard bonjovi before. Personally, I would go with later albums, but if we're doing this album, right from this album.
Speaker 3:Living on a prayer, but my favorite on here is wild in the streets.
Speaker 1:It's a good funny, so that's your favorite, and mad at your least favorite.
Speaker 3:It's a good. You know Jersey hard. You know jersey tune like without love. I wish that was Wasn't even on the album. What?
Speaker 4:do you mean by good jersey? Tune Like you got to be like kind of drunker, like blue collar, hard workers, blue Okay.
Speaker 1:Just on the way home from work. Yeah Truck yeah, I mean you drive pickup trucks in New Jersey or I didn't, no, no what's like the car choice in jersey.
Speaker 4:An iROX 80 okay iROX 828 Like a Pontiac or a Buick or something.
Speaker 3:No something with teetops.
Speaker 4:Okay, okay, nice.
Speaker 3:Now, like the opening song, let it rock, wasn't too thrilled. I don't know that, not one of my favorites.
Speaker 1:No, but then that the one that starts kind of like.
Speaker 4:Like a church.
Speaker 3:That was the opening song when they toured, and it was just david bryan who His real name is david rashbaum. For anyone they know bryan is his middle name, but that was just him on the stage just playing that intro with and it was just cool with the lights and the and the smoke and then they went in to let it rock the whole song. But it was a cool intro to a concert, to a concert.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can imagine that. So it, when you say let it rock and you the way that they recorded that, of course, like with that huge Keyboard intro, that is a great intro and of course that makes a great deal of sense. They did something very similar for the new jersey album again just a very long, I should say, elongated Intro into a song, when they did lay your hands on me, right. So as I'm listening through this album and and being reminded of this album I took a look at, raise your hands.
Speaker 3:I think Another good live song.
Speaker 2:But now, while that's an incredibly great live song I bet I've never seen it, but I think that could have been a contender for the first being the first song on this album. I'm saying, like, if you eliminate from Let it Rock, if you eliminate that prolonged keyboard intro, I think that raise your hands could have been absolutely a contender for the first song. So when you're laying out an album, there's the concept. It's called sequencing, right? So if they have 10 tracks, you sit around and, okay, these are the 10 that's gotta be on the album. In what order are we going to place these songs? So, like, think of a DJ, right? So a DJ does the same thing every time that DJ plays his tracks. Like he's not gonna play 10 slow songs back to back to back to back to back, he's gonna break it up. Same reason you don't have the three power ballads in this album back to back to back.
Speaker 2:You wanna shake it up a little? So yeah, raise your hands. Just has that much like Let it Rock. Both of them are energetic, they get you excited, they get you psyched. They do yeah, again. Both of them showcase the hell out of John's voice. Both of them make a great deal of use of a signature move of Bon Jovi's, and that's just the use of woe and oh like, repeatedly over and over. You just have to think in your head like this is something you can sing along to in the shower, in the car, at a concert. They use woe and oh, so very much, and it's just. It's for that reason. It's to get that listener truly involved with the song.
Speaker 1:Woe and oh yeah, this was from Spaceballs too, right.
Speaker 2:Also featured in.
Speaker 1:Spaceballs. That's right, raise your hand.
Speaker 2:Barf, barf, follow me. Is dancing along to this song, while in, or whatever the name of their Spaceballs won.
Speaker 3:Winnebago is not Spaceballs won.
Speaker 2:No, no, winnebago won.
Speaker 1:Winnebago won.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it had a name.
Speaker 4:Whoa whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1:Joey Lawrence.
Speaker 2:So it's great to, I think, go back to an album like this, or, I think, of many of the Bon Jovi albums as a whole. You really get to hear that that tried and true. This is how a rock song in the 80s is laid out. It's, you know, first bridge chorus, first bridge chorus.
Speaker 3:Guitar solo.
Speaker 2:Chorus, chorus, that's it, and then maybe an outro and that's it. Like that's exactly ever. That is the recipe for every 80s song. First course bridge, I'm sorry. First bridge chorus, first bridge, chorus, solo chorus, and that, and it worked. It worked like hell for these guys.
Speaker 3:It worked for a lot of bands that way.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah man hell yeah, Of the hair bands from the 80s is Bon Jovi. The biggest was Motley. Cruebigger was like I'm trying to think I'd say Bon.
Speaker 3:Jovi.
Speaker 2:I would definitely say Bon Jovi, motley Crueb didn't hit it, and I mean big, big until Dr Feel Good came out. They I'm not saying they didn't have hits, they certainly had some singles.
Speaker 3:Theater of pain was was kind of a bust.
Speaker 2:Theater of pain. Without the without Home, sweet Home that that album was a throwaway album.
Speaker 3:But Dr Feel Good. Yeah, that was, that was their first one. They wrote Not being drunk or high.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's great. Yeah, but like Bon Jovi is like pop, pop rock.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 4:It's not really what I think a lot of the other hair bands were going for.
Speaker 1:Well, that's exactly it, Matt. I want to like in the 80s a kid that was like more in the rap and R&B and whatever else, like that. Motley Crueb I didn't really get into until high school. I kind of liked a couple of tracks but Bon Jovi pulled me in because he said it was kind of poppy. You know, it was rock, it was catchy and and like that was saying that whoa, no. And it makes sense that I would say their music is a little more. What's the word I'm looking for? Like or makes it easy to like or like generic.
Speaker 1:Not generic.
Speaker 2:I don't mean it like that, I just mean it like it keeps a format like you can set your watch to it Verse Bridge, chorus, verse, bridge chorus. Guitar solo chorus out. That's, that's how it goes. That was, that is the tried and true recipe of every 80s rock song.
Speaker 1:Also, motley Crueb would be a little heavier, a little more edgy. Sure yeah, the way they dress.
Speaker 4:No, a lot of a lot back then too, a lot of producers and stuff. I mean, the industry is about making money, and if you can get songs on the radio, you get more listeners, you make more money. So whatever they can get to be radio friendly is what a lot of producers, a lot of bands were doing at the time.
Speaker 1:Who's better looking, john Bon Jovi or Brett Michaels?
Speaker 2:John Bon Jovi. Jbj, looking to Brett Michaels, took a man.
Speaker 1:No, I'm talking about back then.
Speaker 4:No, I mean Bon Jovi was on.
Speaker 1:Sex in the City Like he dated like some hot chicks.
Speaker 3:Brett Michaels had more makeup on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, sure, when you, when you take a look at, look, with the cat dragged in.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:They're all dressed like chicks, every single one of them Brett, bobby, ricky, cece. They're all dressed like women, like you. They look like dudes in drag. Do you think they got more?
Speaker 3:But that's a great album. I love look with the cat drag. Could I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 2:It's a great album, but they back on track on the topic. They dressed and looked like chicks. I don't think Bon Jovi ever looked like chicks.
Speaker 1:No, they don't like make up.
Speaker 4:You talking about poison, yeah, poison, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm just trying to think, like his, bon Jovi was a sex symbol. I remember back then, like my cousin, my one cousin, sharon, loved oh, he's so gorgeous. All the girls love Bon Jovi, you know they still, do they still do, yeah, but Brett Michaels and Poison got that treatment too. That I remember of the rock bands I mean a lot of them guys did, I guess.
Speaker 4:Sure, but well, motley Crue was coming out around that time that isn't.
Speaker 2:Doesn't define the whole genre of hair metal glam.
Speaker 1:That's what you're trying to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, it's glam, it's that. What can we do? That's shocking. What's going to be provocative? Well, I'm going to be a dude, put makeup on and dress like a chick.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Motley Crue did the same thing.
Speaker 2:Sure, did they absolutely Cinderella.
Speaker 4:Yeah, nick, nicky, sex would play sets on speedballs, and the guy's still here, so whatever he's doing, I want two of those.
Speaker 1:Yeah, good diet, yeah, but I guess like the one of the originators maybe of that where they're kind of feminine maybe not feminine but like just is, like maybe like Led Zeppelin, like he kind of had that style. No, no, I mean, he kind of looked he would wear tight clothes and that.
Speaker 4:No, that was.
Speaker 1:that was rock and roll, though, like back then that wasn't like any kind of glam and he kind of not glam, but just like the almost like what is that?
Speaker 4:You're a huge Zeppelin fan, do you think?
Speaker 2:I see where Dave's going with this and there's almost so.
Speaker 4:I mean his jeans were tighter, Like they were like a third grade girl's jeans, but Robert plant, but that was the style yeah, that was what they did Bells, bottoms, hip huggers of Zeppelin.
Speaker 2:I think Robert plant really pushed the boundaries of androgyny.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm talking about, yeah.
Speaker 2:But I he never put off like a feminine, like a thing.
Speaker 4:He wasn't wearing lipstick and an eyeshadow or any of that.
Speaker 1:No, neither did Bon Jovi. I was just saying that, yeah, bon Jovi is not in that they're not in that category.
Speaker 3:Like they're not a glam rock band.
Speaker 4:They're just a rock band.
Speaker 3:No hair metal hair metal.
Speaker 2:So, speaking of hair metal, track two on this album, you could track to track to track to so you give love a bad name.
Speaker 2:We talked about this. This was their first signal single. This was this is a known classic. So if you've never heard the album, you, for God damn sure, have heard. You give love a bad name.
Speaker 2:Now, I love this track. I love it. It's not my favorite on the album, but I love it. Reminds me a lot of the track before it, let it rock, follows the same format. I love the harmonies in this song and for every chorus, love the harmony. Like you really hear Richie Sambora coming out in this Fantastic solo, incredible solo. Like you can hear the finger work. It's unbelievable. Oh, this is another trick of the trade in this track and you give love a bad name. The chorus following the solo this is one of those climactic Bridges or ends or choruses that comes that follows the guitar solo where you take out all of the instruments. Right, it's, it's only silent, with the exception of a voice that's singing it and in this case, a drum. That's just just, that's just beaten. That's all you hear. And then, at the end of that, bam, all the, the, the instruments come all back at once and it's just odds, it's just climactic for lack of better work. Am I wrong? No, you're not wrong Thoughts anybody.
Speaker 3:It's also in the show how I met your mother, how.
Speaker 2:I met your mother there's an.
Speaker 3:There's an episode where Barney has a get psych mix and you give love a bad name is the only song that you hear from his CD that he made that it gets him psyched.
Speaker 4:Better backing vocals.
Speaker 3:All you hear is shot through the heart, and that that's all you hear in in the episode Yep, but they played over and over again.
Speaker 4:What would you guys say would be better on the backing vocals? Would it be Sambora or Michael Anthony?
Speaker 3:Michael.
Speaker 4:Anthony, so easy.
Speaker 2:For with with respect to range, for sure, michael Anthony Good.
Speaker 4:However, oh and however However.
Speaker 3:Richie can sing. His solo album is really good.
Speaker 2:Richie can for damn sure sing.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he can sing.
Speaker 2:However, the Michael Anthony has a greater range, but the songs that Richie is singing to are far more melodic, and that's, in my opinion, just because they have a fifth member. They have a keyboard or I guess they had that in Van Halen but there is a fifth member going on, and when you have five guys playing versus four at the same time, you have more opportunities for melodies and for completely different directions to take a song. So I would say, given the song, how about this? I'd love to hear Michael Anthony's voice singing back up.
Speaker 4:Okay, I get you For a Bon Jovi song. For a Bon Jovi song, gotcha.
Speaker 3:And David Bryan. He's got some good pipes too, Backing vocals. Oh, my God yeah, absolutely, I guess we're not really doing apples to apples here.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean. We're kind of mixing it up a little bit, but I just it just popped into my head Like I was thinking like backing vocals. Yeah, Like with Anthony.
Speaker 3:Harmonies.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I would go with Michael Anthony on that one 100%, but equally so like Michael Anthony, is the one that any Van Halen song you're hearing where you hear a harmony that's higher than the vocal, that's Michael Anthony. He's hitting every single one of those highs. Sam Bora does the same thing. True, he out. He's at a higher octave or a higher note or a harder hit note than John Bon Jovi. Almost every time he's I mean he's incredible.
Speaker 4:Just talent. They're all talented. You make it this far. You got to have some kind of talent I mean in the 80s. Nowadays I mean it's whatever. They have all kinds of things to mix your voice or do whatever they need to do Auto tune, auto tune yes.
Speaker 1:So who was Bon Jovi linked to? Like famous wise, like romantically, Cause I know. Like you know, we were talking about this was when they were at their. Would you say, this is their peak slip room wet, or have they gone up since then? I don't know.
Speaker 4:Like no, he got really big at like he was on. He was like an actor for a time.
Speaker 1:Like.
Speaker 4:John.
Speaker 3:Bon Jovi was on Sex in the.
Speaker 4:City. He was on like a couple of different movies.
Speaker 3:U571. That's a good movie Was he been married this whole time he's been married to his high school sweetheart since you know slippery when wet came out.
Speaker 1:So he hasn't been on the one. Okay, I got you, so he was probably living at this time when they're on tour for slippery when wet.
Speaker 3:You heard no scandal stories, so Richie was the one.
Speaker 1:Richie was the one with like Heather.
Speaker 3:Locklear and all that Right, Right Well.
Speaker 4:Heather Locklear got around.
Speaker 3:Allegedly.
Speaker 4:Allegedly.
Speaker 2:Allegedly Third track on the album live it on a prayer. So we've talked about this. This is their signature song and if I'm if Nutley isn't going to tell me otherwise, I will happily say that yeah, this is their signature song.
Speaker 1:Second single.
Speaker 2:Now this is in my opinion. When I hear it, it is very, very similar to you Give Love a Bad Name. I was surprised that this was the second single in hindsight right, so not when I'm 10 years old when this comes out.
Speaker 1:Similar in sound, you mean?
Speaker 2:They sound very similar. They both have the exact same tempo. You hear so much of the same again the same things the verse bridge chorus, verse bridge chorus. But what makes this song stand out, in my professional opinion, is the catchy hooks and the chord progression, especially in the first measure of each bar of each chorus. The way again the notes progress in each chorus is different than it's more dynamic or it's more diverse. That's not the word I'm looking for. There's just more to it than you would otherwise find in.
Speaker 1:You Give Love a Bad Name.
Speaker 2:There you go, extravagant, there's just essentially, there's more notes and there's more changes. But the real change, what makes this song, their signature, stand out? One is the key change in the final chorus.
Speaker 4:Are we still talking about living on a prayer?
Speaker 2:That key change in that final chorus is really what makes this song just stand out. Like Nutley, I can't imagine being at a Bon Jovi concert and being in that crowd. When they get to this last chorus and again the key of the song changes it's higher. Everybody's got to be hyped and just losing their minds.
Speaker 3:No, oh, definitely. Unfortunately, like with everybody, john's been doing it for how many years? He can't hit those high notes. Hell, no, no. So the crowd sings that part. He doesn't. He lets the crowd sing the. You know we're halfway there, whoa living on a prayer because he can't hit those high notes and I don't expect them to. After you know, he's 60-some years old. We all can't do things like we used to.
Speaker 4:That's right, that's where I thought we were more than halfway there, but we're only on track three.
Speaker 2:Well, look, so this is the inaugural episode. Right, we want to do this justice, right, we want to do as much as we can. But it's fortunate now we've already hit two of the singles and there were only three or four on here, so we're getting through this. In fact comes the fourth track on this album, Social Disease. In my opinion, this is a thrill-way song.
Speaker 3:This was filler at best it was filler and it should have been Edge of a Broken Heart. Listen to that song. You will not. You will enjoy it.
Speaker 1:Fun fact on that living on a prayer. My wife thought it was back when she was a kid living on a prayer Interesting.
Speaker 4:Like Little House.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was seven, though. Yeah, true.
Speaker 2:Fun fact when I was a little kid in grade school we were talking about grade school just before we started recording. So, going in Catholic school as a little kid, I had this dream that one of the nuns that was teaching me that I was at this concert and she was singing this song.
Speaker 1:Living on a prayer? Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 2:So she's now since passed. Her name was Sister Joanne and I swear to God, I had this dream that she was singing this song.
Speaker 1:Sister Joanne Bon Jovi.
Speaker 4:Funny thing of what that was saying. Do you guys remember that song? It was like touch me, touch me. I want to feel your body.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:So, anyway, we were at this a friend of mine, Matt. I don't know if you know Matt Golden anybody. Oh, yeah, yeah we did.
Speaker 2:I have a picture of you and Matt.
Speaker 4:Golden. We did this whole thing and made it to. I think it was at Millersville University. For some religion you had to make a song up or whatever. So they had these girls come out. I don't know, we were checking them out. They must have been in eighth grade or something. I think we were in sixth at the time. They did that song and they were like touch me, touch me, I want to feel God's blessing.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, that's scandalous.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4:At that time we were like, oh man, they're really singing to that. They can't do that.
Speaker 2:They changed the whole lyrics and stuff. You can't take us a man at the fox song and turn it into a religious song.
Speaker 4:I want to feel God's blessing.
Speaker 1:That's funny, dude, because we should do that as a game. See if you can turn tracks religious.
Speaker 4:That's what that was done in South Park. Remember if you take any kind of baby or anything and just put God's name in it, you can make a song. You can make any type of Christian song.
Speaker 1:That's pretty fun.
Speaker 4:We would be, we would. I mean, I bet we could do that, we could try that. That's just hilarious.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:That's what you, when you said, just remind me of it.
Speaker 2:That's funny.
Speaker 1:That's a good one.
Speaker 2:So I a good friend of the show Hawk.
Speaker 1:He actually did that inverted what we just said you take him and make it satanic he would take.
Speaker 2:He would take a nice. He would take a nice happy religious song and just turn it into something else. And then, for example, there is a Christian song out there I don't think we coming up ever did it. It's called uh, he believes in me because he believes in me, right? So he changed that to I got the weed in me. That's cool, right? That's just what he would do. Anyway, shout out to Hawk Good job, hawk. Thanks Hawk for ruining Jesus.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:All right, we're almost there. We're almost done with the first side. The fifth and final track on the first side of this sweet cassette in your back pocket is Wanted Dead or Alive. Now this is the third single, the third released single off of this album. It is in fact the first power ballad on the album. I mean, what rock album doesn't have power ballads? This is the first one featured admirable and I mean very admirable guitar work on the part of Sambora. This is the first track on the album that breaks the the simplicity of a song and and really just adds, just showcases his talent. The standalone acoustic guitar in the first verse really helps the forthcoming buildup when the chorus starts to add subtleties, followed by a verse that adds more instruments than by the final verse in this song. I mean everybody's all in right. You know how this builds up. You've all heard this song Wanted Dead or Alive. Everybody knows it. Dave might call it blaze of glory, but it's actually Wanted Dead or Alive.
Speaker 3:Another one of their signature songs 100%.
Speaker 2:This one is if if Live it On A Prayer is number one. This one is one point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is right there. Thank you, exactly what I was going to say. It's not even two, it's the closest possible writer you could possibly imagine. I think that Sambora's voice really came out well in this one, but you hear him like when when John will say you know I'm Wanted and you hear Sambora want it. Yeah, it's things like that that again really just show, or I should say, enable the listener to hear what an incredible talent Richie Sambora hit.
Speaker 4:This is probably my. This is my favorite song on this album Nice Wanted Dead or.
Speaker 1:Alive, nice. Yeah, I like that song too, for sure.
Speaker 4:The Powerball had always got me. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:I've seen a million faces and I've rocked them all and he's.
Speaker 2:This is again. This is one of those songs that is made for a live show. This is absolutely that thing that gets the crowd involved. This one uses catchy lyrics instead of woe or oh, like we talked earlier, like this is the one perfect example. And I've rocked them all. You just got to. You can close your eyes.
Speaker 3:That's when the lights go down.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:They go out to the crowd. I've seen a million faces.
Speaker 2:And then the house lights come up Yep and everybody's arms are up in the air screaming, and I rocked them all. This is just that song.
Speaker 1:I wonder if he's seen a million faces when he wrote that.
Speaker 2:Oh well, it's fun fact, his writing this song was actually inspired by his love of the old West and he correlated his love of the old West to actually being in a rock band of musicians, like being in a band of outlaws. So when he did that correlation, it's like well, look man, you know these outlaws are out there trying to rob trains or banks or do whatever, like before the sun comes up or before noon, or you know, I do not kill him before noon or whatever, anything like that he would correlate his experience as being in a rock band, like these guys are on the fucking road, they're it's. It's hard work, it's it's. You're traveling all over the place constantly, be it a bus, a plane, a train, you name it. You're always on the move and you're getting so much stuff in and hell, even sometimes drinking that early in the morning, just maybe because you just finished the night before. So that's from what I understand. That's where the song came about. Also, this song was influenced by Bob Seeger's Turn the Page.
Speaker 4:Very, very similar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 2:No, you say that this song's been in a lot of places, a lot of places, but as of late, it's certainly the you're going to hear it all of the time as the theme song for Deadliest Catch.
Speaker 4:Oh, what is that on?
Speaker 2:Discovery Channel. Okay, oh. So the next song on this album, or after Wanted Dead or Alive, raise your Hands.
Speaker 4:Yes, yeah, you were saying about that. You said you, that should have been number one.
Speaker 2:I think it was a, so I was certainly not the one to pick out. I'm guessing it was Bruce Fairburn that picked the ultimately picked the sequencing of the song. I just think that Raise your Hands could have been a contender for being number one.
Speaker 4:But just let it rock is the A side, number one Raise your Hands. B side, number one, is kind of like he might have been a coin flip.
Speaker 2:That's fair. So you know that you make a very good point on that. It is in fact the number one on the B side.
Speaker 4:So they're the exact same song, this different side.
Speaker 2:Yeah, pretty much. This one really stuck out with me because of the repeated harmonics you hear from Sam Borra's guitar at the end of almost every measure of every verse. I wish we were. I wish we had the legal Cajones and we paid enough to pay for the royalties to play these songs. But at the end of each measure you just hear a harmonic. It's the same harmonic that comes out of Richie's guitar. It's classic 80s, it's fantastic Bon Jovi and again over and over. I do love Richie Sam Borra and he really showcases himself in this song. Oh, I love the core In so many of the other songs.
Speaker 2:When you hear the verse bridge course first, bridge course it's consistently the same. Consistently the same. This one sticks out Really well because there's a chord progress and change for the solo. So the, while the solo is typically going to be in place of a verse, the actual music behind it changes, which is great. So it's like whoa, this is like a warp zone for the song. It's like the underground part of Super Mario Brothers, like there's the whole world that's operating on top, but then there's this. You know the second part of it that nobody knew about. So I just like that. Natalie, what did you think about this track?
Speaker 3:The great live song Every time I hear it. I remember when I took my older son, who is a big Bon Jovi fan also no-transcript, he was getting into it. You know, you think you know a teenager, not you know, gonna be with his father at a concert. He's just gonna be like you know, but he was, you know, raise your hands, and he was really getting into it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's awesome, matt, in addition to hearing it on spaceballs, do you remember? Do you have any fondness for this track?
Speaker 4:Um, I liked it on spaceballs, like I don't. I don't remember like being a kid running around singing like raise your hands on me, raise your hands on me yeah no, so right now. Sandman Good old, matt, yeah lay your hands on me was from spaceballs.
Speaker 3:Didn't listen to the album like he should have raised your hands was, uh, spaceballs.
Speaker 2:No, no, yes, Are you sure?
Speaker 4:promise. All right, how's raise your hands? Go raise your hands, if you.
Speaker 2:Starts up.
Speaker 4:Okay, all right, I was lost for a second there. Yeah, I like to raise your hands on spaceballs.
Speaker 1:That was good.
Speaker 4:I like living on a prayer on this album.
Speaker 1:It was a good like guitar riff in the beginning of that.
Speaker 2:I like to keep those.
Speaker 1:Nobody, I remember that from spaceballs. I liked it, of course, but I I didn't know that till we watched the movie, that I'd want to remember that.
Speaker 3:I forgot about. You brought it up before about spaceballs like oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4:Wait, lay your hands on me as a bon Jovi song, correct?
Speaker 3:100%.
Speaker 4:all right, that's the dust, the confusion.
Speaker 2:That's on his next album yes the opening song it is the first track on the New Jersey album Zaps favorite.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's why I was in my I like the New Jersey album. But that's I lay your hands on me was a good song.
Speaker 3:I might be going so far as to say the circle is one of my favorite Bon Jovi songs the Albums, the circle.
Speaker 4:I didn't see that one.
Speaker 2:I can't say I'm familiar with that one.
Speaker 3:And it's called circles the circle is it in the 90s, though it's not an 80s.
Speaker 4:It's in the 2000s. Oh Jesus, now You're jumping sharks. Yeah, that's not vintage.
Speaker 3:Yeah no, but I.
Speaker 4:I feel like that. You're dedicated as he got.
Speaker 3:That's like a fan as the band grew, I think Musically much better.
Speaker 2:Oh, I agree, I certainly a crushed in the year 2000.
Speaker 3:What a great one the circle was.
Speaker 4:I have to look that up Thereafter that's like the year the new Giant Stadium opened up.
Speaker 3:I was looking at life.
Speaker 1:The Grammys was on TV last night or the night before and and they were like oh, Billy Joel is gonna perform a new song.
Speaker 4:And I'm 30 years.
Speaker 1:I'm thinking yeah, after like 30 years. But I'm thinking like I mean that good for him Still making music, but you got to be a pretty diehard Billy Joel fan. That like let me go and buy that Billy Joel album. You know what I mean. Like I think when you're an artist, like you have a window of work when a lot of people maybe are into it, but you got to be a diehard fan. They're like just everything somebody puts out.
Speaker 2:So what you're saying is, by releasing a new album or new song, billy Joel isn't necessarily going to add new fans.
Speaker 1:I mean he gets, he could, but I highly doubt, more than likely, it's gonna be diehard Billy Joel fans that are got you. You know, like I'm not looking for any new Billy Joel music, I like his work but you know, after so many years this is kind of like you know what I'm trying to say like.
Speaker 3:So who knows, to him to put out some new music.
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely more power too, he was doing on the piano.
Speaker 4:It was the same music that he's always done. It was just.
Speaker 1:My point being nutly is, like for Bon Jovi, I think of it the same way, like I know Slippery Moonlight, I know a couple of these other songs you're talking about. I'm like a casual. I don't even ever see you say fan. I like a couple songs, sure, but then I'm not buying a Bon Jovi album in 2003 or 2005. You know what I mean. Like just, you're a super fan.
Speaker 4:Yeah, did anybody see? Did you watch where Joni Mitchell performed?
Speaker 1:I watched a little bit of the Grammys, but now I didn't okay, that was fantastic. I did see Bon Jovi on there, I believe nice.
Speaker 3:He just won a music cares person of the year.
Speaker 2:Good job. See cuz music cares, and so does John Bon Jovi for his philanthropy philanthropy Right, it's full rendering, first philanthropy.
Speaker 3:It was a pretty cool show. They had all these different people like Sammy Hagar was up there, boo, I Forgot who else but playing Bon Jovi songs, right, and he's the one who said alright, you're gonna do this song, you're gonna do that song. Debbie Gibson did something. Who Bonnie?
Speaker 4:Bonnie Rape.
Speaker 2:Bonnie Rape, bonnie Tyler.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, melissa Atheridge. Okay, she's up there.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I was gonna say when you're asking Debbie Gibson to do something for you, what do you see right there? She's the only one there. While I was closing, I had a gig tonight.
Speaker 2:Speaking of Debbie Gibson, I'm thinking maybe if she were to have done a song, it might have been this next song without love.
Speaker 3:Throw that one out.
Speaker 2:This is so alright. So this is the second power ballad on the album. This, in my opinion, has possibly too much keyboard. I think they could have substituted some of that keyboard with a little more guitar. There's so much keyboard in this, it sounds. It sounds like a typical 80s movie soundtrack.
Speaker 1:What's the song that I immediately confused it with runaway in the beginning. There's one of these songs that starts out just like runaway.
Speaker 3:I die for you, I did for you, I die for you, yes that's that I die for you.
Speaker 2:I'd cry for you In fact that is the next track on this album. I die for you, and the first bullet I have to talk about is it sounds way too much like runaway.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, I thought it was that song. I'm like I thought that was like Early, early bond, yeah, like their first, but it was a different song that you're saying it sounds too much like runaway, because the Keyboard just that part, the beginning, the intro beginning because it doesn't sound anything like runaway. So no, no, no.
Speaker 2:I know what you mean runaway is a classic song runaway is a classic song.
Speaker 2:Now my first exposure to bond joey from an album perspective was, again New Jersey, the album subsequent to this one. So that means that I came up with a song that I think they based on this one Born to be my baby. That song, as featured on New Jersey, I think, is they looked back at. I'd die for you, this song here that we're talking about, and said what could we have done better? By my personal opinion, and again, if you're a bond joey fan and you know anything about that, these two songs, you would. I Would think you'd understand what I'm talking to be my baby.
Speaker 2:Those like I think that's like a all-time Classic classic, great song, and I think they took this song I'd die for you and they said what did we miss? What could we have done better? What? What could we have done with cord progression? What could we have done with crescendos or, you know, arpeggios or any of that stuff, what could we have done better? And they, they did it on New Jersey.
Speaker 3:Zaptin is homework. That's that's good insight. I like that. That is.
Speaker 2:That is really never thought of it, though it's that's only because so fun fact I Hate to confess. But only recently was the first time I've ever heard this entire album. Only reason before for purposes of doing this recording. I'd never heard the entire album before. In fact, I had never heard this song. I'd die for you up until maybe a couple of days ago.
Speaker 4:Hmm, what's up, say, most of the ones on this album are on the radio, if you would want to listen to them. Yeah, I mean, that's I, it was. It was a really good album.
Speaker 2:But this song I die for you is. I love it. I think it's great because, again, I loved their follow-up single that I think sounds so much like this born to be my baby, particularly about the I'd die for you song here. I love the. The can't forget it. The phrase can't forget in the chorus. So in the chorus John is saying in a world that don't know, romeo and Juliet, boy meets girl and promises we can't forget. So this is when you hear this group in the background, I said can't. It's good, it's just like that. It's powerful, it's moving, it's it's, it's inspiring, it's good yeah be careful, that's too good, we might get copyright.
Speaker 2:I don't know. Look it's. It's an easygoing solo, but it won't be a predictable. I mean, you start, it starts out with the standalone single notes and then it progresses from there and it's crazy by the end. Again very similar format done in born to be my baby. But I think this is a great song. In fact, I'm gonna go out on the limb here and I'll tell you if it weren't for and this is a question I'd love to ask for for any, all of us If it weren't for the singles that were released on this album, what would be your Favorite song and in my opinion, it, I should say not my favorite song if it weren't for the singles, it would be. I'd die for you. It would be this song, not late. What do you think?
Speaker 3:Wild in the streets, like I said before, wild in the streets favorite song on the album Probably because like living on a prayer has been played Over and I'm done like done with it. I love hearing it live, but like on the radio or change.
Speaker 4:That's one of the ones you change like. You know this song like, but you know the whole thing.
Speaker 1:You just like it gets sick of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I'm curious now about the next song on the album. Never say goodbye. So this was the fourth single? Although no, yeah, it was this, it was the fourth single. However, it was not considered a. It was not released domestically or as a commercially available single, that is to say, you couldn't buy the individual cassette or the individual 45 that had this song on it. Fun fact, did you know that?
Speaker 2:did not know you could not buy a taper album with just this song and then a B side. It was not released, at least in in America. That way it might have been in the UK but it charted anyway. But as a result they don't get to to determine or call this a single in the United States. Fun fact On this never say goodbye. I love the harmony work by a sampler as always, catchy hook for the intro and choruses love it. His guitar work is incredible. Curious, nutley, you've been to Bon Jovi shows. What is this like Hearing this song at a concert? Is this like? Is this their signature last song? Only because it is never say goodbye.
Speaker 3:No, I've seen them 19 times and I don't think they've ever closed.
Speaker 1:That's a lot.
Speaker 3:That's a lot lately, living on a prayer is usually their closer.
Speaker 1:Okay, oh wow.
Speaker 2:They make you wait. Oh yeah, that's the thing. So that's for me. They're edging you the whole time. You've got a stick. Well, I want to hear my favorite song.
Speaker 4:All right, you're gonna wait till the bitter end quick question for you, not Lee from your first Bon Jovi concert you went to. What do you think your ticket price was about? There we go.
Speaker 3:Was that 1850, 1850?
Speaker 1:sorry 1650 dang holy moly and what do you think? 1550 holy moly rear section it says we weren't behind.
Speaker 3:We weren't behind.
Speaker 4:The stage were more side, whatever and then the last show you went to. What do you think you paid for?
Speaker 3:The last Bon Jovi show? Well, I had one for when he was touring with Brian Adams, but COVID hit, so it canceled. Um, I think it was the last show was was with with my son. Hmm, this house is not for sale. Tour in Allentown?
Speaker 4:Uh, a couple hundred each, oh wow, okay, um, I'm just saying that because my oldest daughter was saying she like this. Uh, zach, brian, I don't know if you guys heard of him.
Speaker 2:He's like a country type.
Speaker 4:And I was like, cool, we'll get, we'll get some tickets. So I went on looking for tickets um at the Bryce Jordan center they wanted for tickets like in the nosebleed like $345 for a ticket. The ones on the floor $700.
Speaker 2:I got. I got a better story for you for that. First and foremost, if anyone is not familiar, the Bryce Jordan center is, pound for pound, the best place to go see a concert. You're not going to pay Philly or Pittsburgh prices or Baltimore or you name it.
Speaker 4:That's what I was figuring.
Speaker 2:You're not going to pay giant center, stupid Hershey ridiculous prices. You're going to get a quality show. They get incredible acts up there. Uh, and the price you can't beat except when you go to see Bruce Springsteen. So I've seen Bruce Springsteen and just recently I saw Bruce Springsteen, my wife and I. Those tickets were about a thousand a checker. What? At Bryce George they were about a thousand a checker. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Um says here nutly adult ticket 16 fifths, so you paid for adult. Like somebody get these for you, I guess it was no, no, no, no, no, all ages show back then.
Speaker 3:Um, that's where the devils used to play.
Speaker 1:Okay, so does it in your, you can get.
Speaker 3:You can get a child's ticket Like my. You know my father would take me to a devil's game and his was X amount of dollars. Mine might have been $5.
Speaker 1:That's what I was saying. If you're just to get, just to, get people in the door if you were 15, you could have knocked a couple bucks off that you paid adult price.
Speaker 3:Contra's don't that, it doesn't matter. Okay, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 4:I don't care, so we get ticket. Prices now are insane Like.
Speaker 3:I don't know what they think people do. Has that on there, okay.
Speaker 2:Now our final song here Wild in the streets, certainly not least favorite, as he's mentioned.
Speaker 4:Wow boys.
Speaker 2:I think it's a bit too happy. It reminds me of on the dark side for many of the cruisers. But I can guarantee you this song was absolutely made for a live show. The use of oh yeah in every bridge in every bridge has got to get that crowd worked up. I'm sure nutley can speak to that. I don't know. My my let down, my overall let down was in the song is the solo. I find it lackluster. I think the the sound of his guitar is to fifties rockabilly. It's, it's just not. It just doesn't do it for me. Again, I mean opinions are like assholes.
Speaker 3:Everybody's got one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so just my, my take on this track, but again, not lead. I'm not, you know. I'm not pissing in your Cheerios here. Man, I want you know you love this track. What? What draws you so much to the song? Or why should say what the upbeat, so good for you.
Speaker 3:Okay, Beat sound. Um, it's a good live, live song, Like there's a. There's a part in the song where, um, because this is my hometown, yeah, Says that in there. And so when he's playing that and as a at a Jersey show, whether it's giant stadium, you know wherever anywhere in Jersey or even New York the crowd goes nuts. Yeah, man Cause that, you know that's his, that's where he's from.
Speaker 4:It's a town they go, they're all from that town.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:It's cool and that's all I got.
Speaker 1:That's it.
Speaker 2:That's it. I mean I, you know, we, we this is our first one really wanted to dive in. We're just, you know, experimenting here, everybody, you know. Thanks for thanks for your patience, just just doing everything we possibly can here to try and cover as many bases.
Speaker 1:A couple of fun facts. I guess you probably have some there too, right? And?
Speaker 2:dish it.
Speaker 1:So did you know they had? Once they had 30 songs written. They went to New York and had some teens up there in New York audition forum and the ones based on your action they get are the ones they picked out for this album.
Speaker 3:What I didn't. I'd never heard of that. That's cool.
Speaker 4:This is kind of like a screening. That's nice.
Speaker 1:Almost like, hey, let's play this forum and see what kind of reaction we get. Oh, they're digging that. All right, boom, that one goes on the album. I can't believe they had 30 songs written. No, if it was all for this album and he track took it down to what? 10. 10.
Speaker 3:But it blows my mind.
Speaker 2:So that should happen all the time. How?
Speaker 3:these how these songwriters come up with ideas and then, like, take Elton John. Bernie Taupin would write the lyrics to a song and then Elton John would be like, okay, let me read this All right, and boom and put music to it Like like it's nothing. Yep, it's a talent that I could never, I could never imagine.
Speaker 2:So, dave, circling back to what you had mentioned. So that sort of thing happens all the time. A grip, probably one of the greatest for examples is Prince. So Prince has a vault of hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of songs that were never released.
Speaker 1:Uh, and then he dies and they release them all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they'll drip. They will slow drip those tracks related to Prince's.
Speaker 4:To get that mailbox money.
Speaker 2:Pearl Jam actually released a whole album of them. It's called Lost Dogs. These are songs that they record for a particular album, but then they just drop off. Like the producer, like the, you know Fairburn will come in and say, you know, let's save that for the next album. Or, you know, maybe just it doesn't really fit the theme of this album, and so they they toss it or they throw it into the vault.
Speaker 4:I think they put that, that album that's apps talking about. I think they did a show on I don't know if it was on like Peacock or one Pearl Jam. No, they released like that album for the show Like all they're like lost Pearl Jam.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Pearl Jam.
Speaker 4:Oh, it's some show I don't know. It's from that out like the unreleased Pearl Jam, but they gave it for some show. I don't know the exact name of the show.
Speaker 1:JW, he would know he knows Pearl Jam. I'll ask him Pearl Jam is good.
Speaker 2:I love Pearl Jam. I just hate any better God damn, I hate that guy.
Speaker 1:I'm not a, I'm to be honest.
Speaker 2:I hate any better. Well, look, I just like I like Bruce Springsteen. It's the same reason why I like and hate Bruce Springsteen. It's the exact same reasons. It's it's all political and it's all bullshit, but it's it's still a thing Like just do your goddamn job Right. Just sing and entertain. I don't need to hear your input, I don't need to hear what you think about current events. Just sing, for Christ's sake.
Speaker 3:I agree with you a hundred percent there. Well, you know, I don't. I'm going to a show or something. I don't care about your politics.
Speaker 4:What have you but see? That's. That's the fuel for the fire. I can separate the two.
Speaker 3:I've known people that you know Bon Jovi is lean's one way and they will, oh no, forget it. So why would I? I enjoy the music. Why am I going to deprive myself of that just because of his political views?
Speaker 2:Precisely Same reason. I went to see Springsteen recently and spent almost a thousand of fucking checker.
Speaker 3:Now he leans one way and I don't care. But don't say it, you know, don't throw it down my throat at a concert. I agree, that drives me crazy.
Speaker 4:That's what she said. How is a Bruce Bruce live?
Speaker 3:What's that?
Speaker 4:Bruce Springsteen live. I'm pretty sure it's just like his album. Like I don't see anything really changing.
Speaker 2:Like oh, how a Springsteen live. Yeah, oh, my God.
Speaker 4:Is this spot on, like the album, though, like he doesn't really change it up, just like does his thing.
Speaker 2:It is spot on.
Speaker 4:That's awesome, see, I like that.
Speaker 2:Number one. It's like you're listening to the song right off the album. Number two. I like that. Number two. His voice has not changed. It is incredible, but I think the most incredible thing about seeing a Bruce Springsteen show Say it doesn't stop.
Speaker 3:The songs are back to back there is like a banger, a back to back. There's no solos, there's no long pauses.
Speaker 2:He, it's one song stops and, as the, as you, as you hear and watch the drummer, like hitting all the symbols, like you know it's in you. It's like the end of the ending of a song that you would think it's like thank you, good night, we love you. All Right. So the drummer's going crazy and going crazy.
Speaker 4:And then right into the next song.
Speaker 2:Every song will start with two, three, four, and then the next song comes on and it's same thing. It'll end with the drum going crazy Two, three, four, and then it's the next song.
Speaker 3:Like it is, and he's in his seventies. He's playing three over three hours.
Speaker 2:He's, he does not stop. I'm sorry Not Lee. What were you going to say? The thing about a Springsteen show?
Speaker 3:You don't see the same show twice, correct?
Speaker 2:Everyone is different.
Speaker 3:You know you go see him this night, All right, and then two nights later it's a different set list they might have. He has the staple songs that are. We're going to play this every single night, but he switches them up.
Speaker 4:See, I saw, I saw Bob Dylan in Newport like years, like I was probably 19, 20 years old at the Newport Folk Festival and he Well, no, he played his music. Like it was like you were listening to an album I would. I seen him again maybe 10 years ago in in Penn State. It wasn't up right, jordan was like a small theater. I think I'll pay a shit ton for the tickets, but nobody knew what in the hell the guy was singing. It was not even that like the songs like we're, like we never heard these songs. Like, well, they'll do and they'll do. He's playing whatever never got into.
Speaker 4:But he was like an hour and a half of that and I was like what the hell did I pay for? But it's like you live and learn, man, Isn't Bob?
Speaker 1:Dylan when I don't know anything when I don't know them. Guys have rights like really good songs, but just maybe not the best singer Like you know what I mean. Like he, he wrote some songs that other people have taken and remade.
Speaker 4:Well, you're like Hendrix took Watchtower and things like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is true, so many look at he's a songwriter. He is a poet. Yeah, he's this. That the other thing, great, just don't sing it to me. Christ I think I'd rather hear. I'd rather hear a train rolling over my own head than listen to Bob Dylan.
Speaker 1:His song wasn't bad the wallflower. That one song I like.
Speaker 4:That's one song. He's had one song.
Speaker 1:He had a good voice.
Speaker 2:He did one headlight, one headlight. Yeah, one song, one headlight.
Speaker 1:Did you know what this album was going to be called? Maybe possibly.
Speaker 3:I do not.
Speaker 2:Not New Jersey Rocky when dry.
Speaker 1:No, they were considering corner, wanted, wanted that are alive and even had him cover made. And they were dressed up as cowboys.
Speaker 4:Interesting Was was Bon Jovi in any cowboy movies.
Speaker 2:Was John Bon Jovi in any cowboy? Yeah, because he wasn't.
Speaker 4:He was an actor for a while. I mean he still does act, but I don't know if he like, because he was so into cowboy movies he was acting.
Speaker 1:What did he act in? Like I would know was he. He was in in Sex in the City.
Speaker 4:He was in like a bunch of episodes of that he was in like some sitcoms. He played like Love, interest and like a lot of movies.
Speaker 2:That's not. They pointed out earlier. He was in U 571.
Speaker 1:Is that the tank? No, that's a sorry yes, I mean his first movie, I think, was Rudolph and Valentino.
Speaker 3:I think that was his first screen that comes out during Christmas. Yeah, I think that's the name of the movie back in the 80s Rudolph and.
Speaker 2:Valentino. Yeah, that's the Spanish version of living on a prayer instead of Tommy and Gina, rudolph and Valentino, yeah.
Speaker 3:So now I got to look that up.
Speaker 1:It's all right.
Speaker 2:Oh, a fun fact, Dave the snake Sabo.
Speaker 3:Sabo.
Speaker 2:Sabo, sorry Sabo.
Speaker 3:Skid Row.
Speaker 2:Correct, was John's John Bon Jovi's longtime friend and neighbor. They actually had a pact. They promised each other that whoever made it first like whoever made it really made it first would help out the other. So, as you may or may not recall, skid Row came out long after Bon Jovi had been known, actually, and it was actually thanks to John that Sabo went on to form Skid Row Nice.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they've been friends since they were 18. Now they're friends for life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 18 to life. Yeah, you got it. I saw a thing. I was watching a little thing on Bon Jovi and he I guess his uncle worked at the power station. They said growing up.
Speaker 2:Yep In New York City.
Speaker 1:He recording studio recording studio and he was like doing kind of like Janitor worked there when he was real young and it was enabled him to get like studio time and to rub elbows with like professionals and stuff and he really got to see, you know the business from that angle and it was kind of helped him with his career. But I guess when he did that runaway he didn't have a band or anything, he didn't have a producer or agent or anything he had.
Speaker 2:all studio dudes help him to do his original recording of runaway.
Speaker 1:And he put that out and it got play on the radio right and ended up on a compilation or something.
Speaker 4:And then, that's how he got his record of local bands. Yeah, yeah, so I thought it was pretty wild the place called a power the power station Yep it was in New York, yeah. Wasn't. Whose band was that in the power station?
Speaker 1:Robert Palmer. Yeah, robert Palmer. Yeah, that's that Robert Plant.
Speaker 3:Fun fact about runaway Go for it when he. Okay, he wrote that and he had studio band members. Yeah, the bass player for the original runaways, Hugh McDonald.
Speaker 2:Oh, from SNL. That bass player later circled back around to take what's his name's place Alex John Sutch. That's it, Alex John Sutch.
Speaker 3:After he left, it's Hugh McDonald. You know full circle. Yeah, that's cool so which is a great album, by the way, the circle.
Speaker 4:Thank you for that 2,000.
Speaker 2:Thank you for bringing that up, Not circle.
Speaker 3:And I was wrong. It's not Rudolph and Valentino, it's midnight in Valentino. The first Bon Jovi movie he was with me Valentino.
Speaker 2:The truth is so, not Lee. When such left the band, did he? Was he kicked out or did he quit?
Speaker 3:I wasn't there. Okay, I really don't know. Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, he was let go, that he couldn't play bass parts. Yeah, well, I know that you hear different stories. You don't know what to believe.
Speaker 2:He his original bass part on, as Chance would have it living on a prayer. It was re -recorded by Hugh McDonald. I mean that speaks volumes and I remember. I remember when he again either when such either quit or was fired, that that was one of the big the poignant things, like he's a shitty bass player or you know what. You're so bad. We had somebody else re-record your stuff on so many albums you didn't even know about it, you don't even know.
Speaker 2:So yeah, it's, he said. She said tomato, tomato, but yeah, made bank, he sure did, he makes it every month in peace every month that check comes. Yeah, how about?
Speaker 1:what you got, natalie, any fun facts? I think that's it. I got one here, give it to me. So I was looking up slippery when wet.
Speaker 4:Don't ask your kids to look that up?
Speaker 1:No, did you know there was a song by an early song by the Commodores called Slippery?
Speaker 2:When.
Speaker 1:Wet. It was a song about married men and the dangers of having affairs.
Speaker 4:Oh, that's right, slippery.
Speaker 1:When.
Speaker 2:Wet, it's a slippery slope for sure.
Speaker 1:Hanging loose may be out of sight, but it just ain't right. Out of sight Best to stay faithful and take care of the home front. Yeah, so I was in 1975 from the album called In the Act by the. Commodores, by the Commodores and actually charted in 19. I looked it up and, you know, checked it out. It's kind of funky man, good track.
Speaker 4:Well, yeah, the Commodores very funky.
Speaker 1:Yeah, lionel Richie, you know it's funky.
Speaker 3:You think those guys know the Commodores yeah what's that from Vacation?
Speaker 1:Vacation, that's right.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, that's right.
Speaker 3:Whether in St Louis or something.
Speaker 4:Yeah, right in Honky Lips on the car and everything you think those guys know the Commodores.
Speaker 2:I had a Commodore 64 grown up. Oh yeah, cool, cool. Finish gaming review. Oh, one of these days, one of these days.
Speaker 3:Like that, are we lost. This is a part of the city you never see. It's good plight, roll them up.
Speaker 4:You said about Lionel Richie. I just saw on Netflix that thing about making we Are the World. Oh, I want to see that. You got to check that out. I'm only halfway in and it is cool. They were saying how to get all these egos in a room like that, including Bob Dylan yeah, dylan was there. Huey Lewis, tina Turner, just Springsteen yeah, springsteen was there. Tons of.
Speaker 1:And they're all doing it for free, right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they were all doing it for free, but Lionel Richie was the one tasked by Quincy Jones to come up with this thing and they were like who's big? So he's like I'll call Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1:You know there'd be one dickhead there. That was like how much are we getting for this?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I mean. Probably Sting he's a dickhead Maybe.
Speaker 3:Well, he wasn't part of. We Are the World.
Speaker 4:No, Sting wasn't in there.
Speaker 3:Are you sure?
Speaker 4:about that.
Speaker 3:No, I thought this was like American singers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, it's, we Are the World.
Speaker 4:I think, he was there, was Sting there, I don't know You're watching the goddamn show. Yeah, they didn't have him in there yet. If he's in there, he's in there. The part was where Lionel's trying to work with Michael Jackson and he was like and then Lionel Richie's doing, he's like. So Michael was like to me, he's like Lionel, do you want to hold bubbles?
Speaker 3:Yeah, Lionel.
Speaker 4:Richie's like I don't want to hold no damn monkey. We got to work on a song, man. He's like.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 4:Damn monkey. And Lionel's like. He's like. Relax, Lionel, we got plenty of time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there was something with Mike Michael. He doesn't work like normal, like he doesn't read music and all that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he homes. He doesn't know any music, so it's like they're like yeah, yeah, mike, we like that yeah.
Speaker 1:I gotta check that out. I've heard numerous people say this we Are the World documentary. I gotta check it.
Speaker 4:I'm like 30 minutes in and it's pretty good.
Speaker 1:It's very good, is that on Netflix, mm? Hmm, yeah, check it out people. But back to this. The Slippery when Wet, Not Lee Nick. Thank you so much for recommending this album, Definitely, definitely one that a rock album from the 80s that I actually do remember kind of listening to. Bon Jovi's not my favorite. I like some of their tracks. I know you love them.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, big fan, big fan.
Speaker 1:I thought, zab, I thought you loved this album. I don't know why. I thought, maybe when we were just talking about putting this together, not this one. Yeah, and Matt, I didn't know where you were at with this, because you surprised me sometimes with your like I never knew you were in a Cinderella.
Speaker 4:Oh, Cinderella is incredible. I guess I'm way more sometimes, but you're talking about the band right. Okay, from Philly, the movie's okay.
Speaker 2:But yeah, the band.
Speaker 4:Oh, I love Cinderella, pat's Dogs, pat's Chili Dogs, but no, no, I've always, I've always liked Bon Jovi, like I'm pretty much good with like music. I like music, any kind of music really, and, like I said, new Jersey is probably the better album. But if you're going off of like stuff you hear on the radio which we all grew up like, by that we're not really at nine, 10, 11 years old going out buying our own records, you know what I mean. No, so the stuff you hear on the radio is the stuff that sticks with you as a kid. But I remember all these songs on the radio and that's. I just think it's a good album.
Speaker 1:Yep, so we always really let it rock on this one. We always do late free return or burn, so I don't know if we should what are we doing that with? I don't know if we should do something like this without. Are you putting tape over the?
Speaker 4:you know the top of the cassette and you're not you could put in there your two strips of tape on it you know where you could record over?
Speaker 1:Is that if you taped over a commercial tape, you could tape on?
Speaker 2:it. Yeah, the notches were popped out, so you couldn't record over it. If you taped over it, you could. Well, like a borrow, keep or record, I should say to be clear to put if you put scotch tape or some kind of something over top of where the two little notches were over a double scrub.
Speaker 4:No, just yeah, if you liked it or if you, you know, if it was one of your okay ones, I don't know.
Speaker 1:We'll have to work on a review.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah Is this like toss it out the window. Is it listened once or is it, you know, repeat Somehow? Somehow we have to correlate that We'll come up with that.
Speaker 1:I like this one.
Speaker 3:I'd probably it's not something I would put on repeat, like over and over and over again.
Speaker 2:Well, that's the thing. So when we were, when we do this for movies, we have to take the concept of the ability to get this music out of, or that movie out of our heads. This is so in the movie. It's put yourself in the place of if you're going to rent this movie, forget the idea that you can screen stream it, forget the idea that you've seen it a zillion times. What would happen if you would? You know we're watching this like your first time and you were renting it. So in this case, think if you had the cassette, like you're not streaming the tracks, you're not doing this. Sure, there are singles and I get that, and sure that's. I would think that that counts. It's just a matter of, from that perspective, regardless of streamability and all of that stuff, would you, you know, go ask for your money back? Would you keep it? Would you love it so much you tape it for your friends, like I don't know?
Speaker 1:Buy copy or dropy Nice Copy or dropy. Yes, like you're going to buy it, you're going to copy it off somebody, you're going to drop it out the window.
Speaker 2:There, you go.
Speaker 1:How's that? I like it. So I'd say for me, I'm going to copy this one. I would buy it, is that buying?
Speaker 3:it. Oh yeah, I'm buying it.
Speaker 4:Hell, I did Twice, twice I think I think I got it for like three cents on that thing you used to get as a kid and your mom be like we're all these friggin tapes but yeah, I remember the first time I had that was one of the albums. I don't know, Wait, was it New Jersey or I don't know? It's tough to call. I don't know if it was New Jersey or or this one.
Speaker 4:It was Slippery One Wedder New Jersey, I don't know, but I got a Bon Jovi one from the publisher, whatever it was called.
Speaker 1:So you would buy it for three cents For three cents.
Speaker 4:No, no, it's a good album. Like a majority, of these songs are all radio songs. They're all fun to like. Like I said, the harmonies, everything's fun to sing to the woes and the uh-ohs, and Definitely a catchy.
Speaker 1:It's fun, it's a catchy album yeah.
Speaker 4:I mean, some albums are stinkers, like you know. When you were a kid you bought like a thing. You're sitting there, you know fast forwarding for Arrested development.
Speaker 1:For 20 seconds just to you know, get another song, big let down from the hip hop world.
Speaker 3:And apparently their new albums coming out this April.
Speaker 1:Arrested development. No, no, okay okay, john Bon Jovi, or Bon Jovi.
Speaker 3:Hugh Mcdonald's wife said it's awesome, she said something.
Speaker 4:Jovi's cousin's uncle's roommate.
Speaker 1:Hugh Mcdonald.
Speaker 4:He's the best album he's heard since since Since Led Zeppelin.
Speaker 1:She's not biased.
Speaker 3:No, not at all. It probably is awesome.
Speaker 4:But yeah, I think I think we're doing okay with this. Like I want everybody if if you're out there listening, you know give us some some feedback some pointers, some feedback, what you want to hear. Like I said, this is our first one, so not Lee Nick at yahoocom.
Speaker 1:Not Lee Nick Did you lock that one down. No, but I'm gonna try.
Speaker 4:Wv and me at yahoocom on a Facebook page.
Speaker 2:But I'm going to not Lee Nick after all, after everyone gets return receipts for the mail not going through, that's right, yeah, but by the time this gets out it'll be up.
Speaker 4:Yeah, this is a week out, not Lee at yahoo at P O Box.
Speaker 3:They're gonna do that.
Speaker 1:Hawk. You better lock down Hawk at yahoo If everyone's not taken.
Speaker 4:So what does? What does Hawk want to do?
Speaker 1:We'll find out, We'll find out. No, is there any?
Speaker 4:any? Do we know of any? Is there some inside stuff? We will find out. Inside edition we will find out. We'll have to oh, can we get a?
Speaker 3:genre.
Speaker 2:We'll find out.
Speaker 3:I already gave you some suggestions. Appetite for destruction the black album.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, but this would be a guest driven.
Speaker 4:Yes, this is a good. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Anybody out there if you have an album that want you want reviewed, not Lee Nick at yahoocom.
Speaker 1:Yeah do that and he'll pass it along, that's the thing too Like.
Speaker 4:is this going to be like a guest driven thing? I think that'd be cool to have you know it's guest driven because it's yeah, we'll have like the fourth guy on this one.
Speaker 1:So it's like you know hey, it's your album.
Speaker 4:You give us what you like about it. Yep, right, right, cool Very cool, but not only man.
Speaker 3:you demand one of our biggest fans and coming up next is the black album by Jesus.
Speaker 1:Christ, we appreciate you. Everything you do, all the promotion, putting our business cards up everywhere, liking all our posts, spreading the word, I mean I would say you're up there with officer Vince for sure For fan.
Speaker 2:We appreciate you. Super fans.
Speaker 1:He gets jealous of officer. We appreciate you. I do not get jealous of officer Steve but I guess, officer Steve, he messes it up all the time. But I guess that's it Right, fellas, Anything else?
Speaker 4:No that was fun.
Speaker 1:Thanks, thanks, thanks, fellas. Thanks for tuning in to the vintage album review. In the old dirty basement you can find us and our theme music from the tsunami experiment on Spotify, apple or wherever you get your music and your podcast. Don't forget to leave that five star rating on Spotify, and I guess that's it for now, so we'll catch you where on the flip side If we don't see you sooner, we'll see you later.
Speaker 2:Peace.