Strap in for a nostalgia-fueled adventure as Hock, Matt, Zap, and I spin the cranks of memory lane to revisit an '80s BMX marvel, "Rad." It's more than a movie review—it's a rad reunion as we recall the thrills of Rad Day, chuckle over the film's box office faceplant, and honor the fearless direction of Hal Needham. From the peculiar leaf-painting antics in Canada to the star-studded cast, this episode promises to deliver a whirlwind tour through the quirks and charms that cement this flick in cult classic territory.
Remember the rush of executing your first BMX trick? We do! Join us as we dissect the very fibers of '80s BMX and skateboarding films, complete with high-flying stunts and those unmistakable fashion faux pas. We peel back the layers of "Rad," discussing the characters and the storyline that left us rooting for the underdog. Throughout our jaunt, we sprinkle in personal bike tales and throw some shade at the hilarious stunt double snafus that were all too common in the films of the day.
To cap it off, we wax poetic about the vintage bikes that once ruled our world, from the legendary GT Mach One to the elusive Hutch Trickstar. Our trip down this retro road is littered with reflections on the fading sight of kids shredding on BMX bikes and ramps, and we muse over the collector's gold mine these bikes have become. So, grab your Ol' Dirty Basement pad, and let's share in these two-wheeled memories together. And hey, don't forget to ride this wave of nostalgia over to our social channels – we're always down to hear your tales from the BMX tracks and skate parks of yesteryear.
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Strap in for a nostalgia-fueled adventure as Hock, Matt, Zap, and I spin the cranks of memory lane to revisit an '80s BMX marvel, "Rad." It's more than a movie review—it's a rad reunion as we recall the thrills of Rad Day, chuckle over the film's box office faceplant, and honor the fearless direction of Hal Needham. From the peculiar leaf-painting antics in Canada to the star-studded cast, this episode promises to deliver a whirlwind tour through the quirks and charms that cement this flick in cult classic territory.
Remember the rush of executing your first BMX trick? We do! Join us as we dissect the very fibers of '80s BMX and skateboarding films, complete with high-flying stunts and those unmistakable fashion faux pas. We peel back the layers of "Rad," discussing the characters and the storyline that left us rooting for the underdog. Throughout our jaunt, we sprinkle in personal bike tales and throw some shade at the hilarious stunt double snafus that were all too common in the films of the day.
To cap it off, we wax poetic about the vintage bikes that once ruled our world, from the legendary GT Mach One to the elusive Hutch Trickstar. Our trip down this retro road is littered with reflections on the fading sight of kids shredding on BMX bikes and ramps, and we muse over the collector's gold mine these bikes have become. So, grab your Ol' Dirty Basement pad, and let's share in these two-wheeled memories together. And hey, don't forget to ride this wave of nostalgia over to our social channels – we're always down to hear your tales from the BMX tracks and skate parks of yesteryear.
Sounds:https://freesound.org/people/frodeims/sounds/666222/ Door opening
https://freesound.org/people/Sami_Hiltunen/sounds/527187/ Eerie intro music
https://freesound.org/people/jack126guy/sounds/361346/ Slot machine
https://freesound.org/people/Zott820/sounds/209578/ Cash register
https://freesound.org/people/Exchanger/sounds/415504/ Fun Facts Jingle
Thanks to The Tsunami Experiment for the theme music!!
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Thanks for tuning in to the Vintage Cinema Review On this week's episode.
Speaker 2:We're covering from 1986, rad you know there are good Hollywood 80s movies and there are bad Hollywood 80s movies.
Speaker 3:This one is the latter, I don't know, man. As Hawk would say, I'm ready to break the ice on this one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, speaking of which, we've got a special guest, hawk. What did you think of Rad?
Speaker 4:It was fun, it was nostalgic, but overall quality of the movie eh.
Speaker 1:Well, we hope the overall quality of our show is good. Speaking of which, if it is, leave that five-star rating on Spotify, Apple, you can leave a written review and sit back, relax and enjoy. From 1986. Rad hey, this is Dave.
Speaker 3:Matt and Zap, and welcome to the Vintage Cinema Review.
Speaker 1:Where, every week, we review some of our favorite films from the past.
Speaker 3:Hey there ain't no late fees here.
Speaker 2:Silence is golden and be kind.
Speaker 3:Rewind. Hey, what's up, dudes, what's?
Speaker 1:going on man.
Speaker 3:How's it going, man? Yeah, it's pretty cool, man. This is like a radical evening down here tonight. It is.
Speaker 2:You know it's extra radical. Today there seems to be a fourth member amongst us, Extra radical.
Speaker 1:What's up? Hawk what's up?
Speaker 3:guys. Yeah, Scott Hawk in the basement.
Speaker 2:Welcome back, Hawker.
Speaker 4:Thank you for having me again.
Speaker 1:No doubt, thanks for being here.
Speaker 3:Hawk's so nice we had him on twice, that's right man, so Rad.
Speaker 1:Actually, matt and I were lucky enough to go see this at the theater a couple weeks ago, so that would have been like what?
Speaker 3:March 21st was Rad Day across the country zap was camping actually zapp and hawk were both camping. Yeah, so or they could have been there too, I guess in the wild next year. Maybe the wheel. That is. What was it? The 30, 35th, 30th, 35th, 34th anniversary? On 86 I'm not quick math zap. Come on, so we have you here I don't know no, so it would have been 28 years, I think.
Speaker 1:Is that right?
Speaker 3:no 38. That was 15 years to my math.
Speaker 1:My math says two years ago.
Speaker 3:It's two years ago.
Speaker 1:But yeah, anyway, rad 1986, runtime hour and 31 minutes. This was distributed by TriStar Pictures. Can you believe that they distributed it?
Speaker 2:I actually can, you can, I actually can. I have a little fun fact about that, about what TriStar, or? Yeah, I have a little fun fact about that.
Speaker 1:What TriStar? Yeah, Okay, they didn't try hard enough, I guess, but release date March 21st 1986 to be exact. And this was directed by Hal Needham. Remember him, Hal Needham did another stinker Cannonball Run.
Speaker 2:Two yeah, and two Part, two yes.
Speaker 3:That was one of the comparisons I was going to make. Cannonball, that was a stinker. Cannonball Run 2, I don't even know, there was yeah, there was a two.
Speaker 2:I was trying to think which movie stunk more, this one or?
Speaker 4:Cannonball.
Speaker 1:Run.
Speaker 4:Cannonball Run.
Speaker 2:Sorry, nutley, nick Damn minds.
Speaker 1:I don't think Nutley Nick's going to be listening, but sorry, anyhow, because he doesn't even know this movie, I, because he don't even know this movie, I asked him about it.
Speaker 3:You don't even know. You don't even know Nutley Nick is 74 years old.
Speaker 1:He might be.
Speaker 2:He's 127 years old.
Speaker 4:He's 127 years old yeah.
Speaker 1:Written by Jeffrey Edwards and Sam Bernard and produced by Robert L Levy. Budget on this $3 million. Box office $2 million.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Womp, womp, womp.
Speaker 3:Box office $2 million what he said.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a loss.
Speaker 3:That is a loss. Instead of breaking the ice, they broke the bank, yeah pretty much $1 million lost on this.
Speaker 1:So filming dates. Yeah, right A treasure. So filming dates on this August 7th 1985.
Speaker 2:To August 8th.
Speaker 1:To August 7th 1985, 4.30 pm. No October 1st, believe it or not. August to October 1st 1985. And they filmed it in Calgary, alberta, canada.
Speaker 2:Thanks, Canada.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so they're in Canada again.
Speaker 3:That's one thing about this movie, seeing it looks so cold there, like they were mostly in t-shirts and stuff, trying to act like it was like I don't know if the summer or whatever, but there was like the leaves were falling off the trees. It was it was very cold. It's very cold there.
Speaker 1:I think they actually had to paint. Fun fact, they had to paint some of the leaves. Like greenish yeah I think it was something like that, yeah.
Speaker 3:How was that, even in the budget?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you wonder. I think this had a well. $3 million is a good budget for 1986.
Speaker 3:With a bunch of with bikes, pretty much you didn't have to get much for it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:With mostly B actors.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't, I mean well.
Speaker 3:Hey, lay off of Lori Loughlin.
Speaker 1:Speaking of which, I guess we should turn it over to Zap for the cast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, since we're starting to talk about these muchachos, the cast of Rad includes, but is not limited to, bill Allen as Crew Jones, lori Loughlin as Christian Hollings, talia Shire as Mrs Jones, ray Walston as Burton Timmer, alfie Wise as Elliot Dole, jack Weston as Duke Best, bart Connor playing the part of Bart Taylor, marta Kober as Becky Jamie luke, laura jacoby as wesley jones, hb hagerty as sergeant smith, chad hayes as rex reynolds and carrie hayes as rod reynolds. There are two that I neglected to include on this list. My bad, but I will at least later on talk about the parts they portrayed.
Speaker 1:Okay, nice. So I guess that's it for the cast then. So we'll turn it over to Matt for a brief synopsis.
Speaker 3:A brief synopsis of the movie Rad, a movie of breathtaking action, by the way, according to Archie Weinstein of the New York Post.
Speaker 1:That touchy-feely guy.
Speaker 3:I think he's Harvey's brother. Yes, he started the whole Me Too BMX movement of the mid-'80s Crew Jones. Bill Allen is the best BMX biker in Cochran. He's got the talent to become the best BMX daredevil in the world. As the local paperboy, he jumps, spins, twists and flips his bike with amazing ability. Bart Conner is the best BMX biker in the world and he's in town to race for the $100,000 Helltrack competition, the most grueling BMX race in history. For the first time in his life, crew has to make his own decisions. He decides to go to Helltrack, but Jack Weston, the race promoter, has a dirty scheme for keeping the local whiz kid out of the race and away from his prize champion. Only the gorgeous Lori Loughlin, a member of the opposite team, can get Alan on track for Hell Track and teach him a few other things while she's at it. Color 94 minutes PG hi-fi stereo.
Speaker 1:All that good stuff right?
Speaker 2:yeah, so they printed all that on the back of a vhs tape.
Speaker 3:Yeah god damn, what did they mean? Laurie lawson was going to teach him a few other things. What she's that supposed to mean? That's the uh uncut yeah, I think you would see that in a remastered version, but actually you guys are like making I think laurie lawson was up for, uh like a best supporting actress for this. I don't know, I don't know what. You got such haters. And then they have a, an olympic. I'm not even getting into that. Bart bart, not simpson, yeah, no connor.
Speaker 1:So I guess it's time to steer through the movie here, hop you ready you ready? Let it All right, we're steering through.
Speaker 2:All right. So if anyone didn't already know, this movie is about freestyle BMX and BMX racing Again. If you didn't catch that from the montage of varying freestyle BMXers showcasing their skills, for the full three minutes and 15 seconds of the opening song, break the Ice.
Speaker 4:Gonna break the ice.
Speaker 3:I thought it could have been longer. It should have been longer than that. It should have been longer, christ. It should have had nine minutes.
Speaker 4:It is a 10-year-old or 11-year-old when I remember seeing it as a kid I think I rewinded it back a few times To watch.
Speaker 3:So you could try it with your own bike.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Well beyond that, yeah, the bikes just were cool.
Speaker 2:I mean it was a session back then, you know. Oh, my God.
Speaker 3:Yeah, how often do you like got outside, you did like an endo and then like kicked your back tire to go backwards on your back peg. It's awesome.
Speaker 2:I remember. So, as I'm watching this montage again, the whole song, not even a piece of it, it's the whole goddamn song. I had completely forgotten about, uh, fork standers. So there are no, there are pegs, but then there are fork standers, so the pegs? The pegs are where the wheel attaches to the fork oh, the forks yeah the two that come out the side, if you get your shin caught on yeah, out of the side of the front fork, like halfway up the fork, those are fork standers. I completely forgot about those.
Speaker 1:But yeah, for damn sure that was a thing, yeah I got some things I wrote down for the fun facts that hopefully I'll blow your mind or maybe like spark a memory for you guys back in the day I am sure you will blow our mind some bike, bike accessories today, like if I would try those moves, I'd break my leg instead of breaking ice 100.
Speaker 2:So our story begins with a group of three friends, all of whom are paper boys, that is to say, two boys, one girl, doing their daily deliveries on their bikes, performing every possible freestyle maneuver, delivering newspaper in the most parkour of fashions. The lead paper boy and protagonist of this movie is named Crew Jones.
Speaker 3:You make it sound really old like that when you're like in the parkour fashions. So parkour right Parkour is where you're, you know parkour right yeah, all right yeah.
Speaker 2:So these guys are just delivering newspapers, but not just delivering newspapers.
Speaker 3:You got to do like a front flip, to like a twisty turn, to like a wheel slide to throw a paper the one.
Speaker 2:So the the one trick he did. He delivered the newspaper to the guy who started coming. He came out and he was shaking his fist. You know, I said you know, not in the garden. I put on one on the front porch. The dude swung his bike around and was riding backwards, and then he swung back around again to ride forwards. That was cool, man it was cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like that. It kind of reminded me of that rube goldberg stuff.
Speaker 2:Correct.
Speaker 3:That's exactly what I think Doing an insane amount of stupid things just to get one simple thing done.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so in this whole thing. There's a couple of scenes here. One of them was this mom driving these two kids around and it's like she's looking in the back and the one kid. So how did she miss completely Him landing on the hood, the paper boy rolling down her windshield? But he wiped out and ended up rolling down her windshield.
Speaker 1:Somehow she missed that yeah, I don't know, what do you think, hock? Hollywood okay, plausible.
Speaker 2:Suspend disbelief I don't know. I know that that garbage truck and dumpster scene that was just too much it was.
Speaker 4:I wanted to say that you're talking about. Like I know a lot of guys have delivered papers over the years to help them do it, even when we were on a bike and whatnot. Like I just thought it was great.
Speaker 1:Cutting through yards and everything timed out perfectly dump trucks sitting there waiting for him like johnson, pick him up, put him over the fence, like one thing I noticed in the beginning of this movie was the uh, the sky was off and even when we went to the theater to see it, matt and I went and saw it, the remastered version the sky color, did you notice?
Speaker 4:yeah, was it red.
Speaker 3:It was red but it was like not, didn't look natural it didn't look like a real sky something looked like way off, and then the next scene is blue, and then the next scene is back to this weird color it's like different days of filming, though I think one day like they're filming the same scene that they cut the night before and it's overcast the next day. The day before it was like sunny, and yeah, maybe like 78 degrees. The next day it's cloudy and 62.
Speaker 2:It's tough to get rid of that. But what's that old saying Like red sky at night sailor, take flight red sky in the morning sailor take warning, sailor, take warning. So it was the morning.
Speaker 1:One other thing I noticed that that 7-Eleven there was a bike out front. You know it says like win this bike, like a raffle almost, and they just had it was sitting out there that town's small enough that you see somebody riding around with that bike, you're gonna know where you got it, like you stole it yeah but what I mentioned to dave too is the back in the 80s.
Speaker 3:Like that, the guy working at 7-Eleven. He was like wearing a tie button-up shirt. Oh yeah, he had like a pair of dress shoes on oh, hell yeah. Like people took pride in their jobs back then. I never seen anybody at 7-Eleven dress like that anymore, they would wear like a smock.
Speaker 1:Is that what you call it, a smock?
Speaker 3:Yeah, because they didn't want to get like stuff on them, because they're always working.
Speaker 2:They're like let's see, oh, so far. So we've also seen a lumber yard chase, which I thought was wow.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I actually could see the the ramp links yeah. He's supposed to be riding up these logs and doing whatever, but no, he's riding up a plank. You can actually see him riding up a plank. Yeah, there was. There was just some bad mixes that anybody knows. The blatant kicks cereal.
Speaker 1:A blatant kicks cereal product placement in this and the two percent milk. Several times was there two percent milk back in the 80s, like that?
Speaker 3:I don't remember anybody drinking like yeah, that's a whole milk error. Yeah, there was no two percent, but I didn't. It's canada hippies, true? Yeah, they were ahead of it, I guess yeah, right, it's canada.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I was looking, I'm like who used two percent milk? I didn't even know about any of that stuff back in the day. What I took my son to see this also, dave took his son, but my son to see this also.
Speaker 3:Dave took his son, but my son was asking me during the, during the one part where it was in the lumber yard, he was like why would they ask the cop to chase him? And I was like I don't know. And the cop looked like he was from the hills have eyes yeah, dude.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was weird looking.
Speaker 4:Yeah, sergeant Smith, he looked a little odd he was definitely odd he was old. He looked like sloth.
Speaker 1:If sloth was a normal dude and a cop so we're those guys hanging out like in the office there. Like is that? They're like um clubhouse, clubhouse yeah, when they were eating kicks. Yeah, where did they break in there and like use it as a clubhouse?
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 3:It could be somebody's shed, could be whatever I think it was where, like the people worked at the lumber yard, they just made it into like their fort something or or maybe, like I don't know, Could have been.
Speaker 2:I was wondering about that as we move along, we meet Duke best, owner of mongoose racing and president of the federation of American bicycles, who's come to town with his traveling crew of BMX racers promoting hell track, a traveling BMX race to the finish with a grand prize of 100 000 and a corvette. In a nonchalant effort to attract the attention and excitement of the locals, duke best offers a 10 000 prize and a chance to race with the sponsored bmx professionals to any local who wins a locals only race around the hell track hell.
Speaker 1:Truck even sounds scary nervous when I talk about it yeah, he didn't really want to do that, but it sounded like, if I remember, they were trying to like one of the towns. People were like, hey, like you know what about? Won't?
Speaker 2:someone, please think of the children think of the locals the the one older lady who reminds me of. Like florence henderson, she sits up and she says hey, you know this, this is really going to make their local kids feel bad If they're just watching other kids their age riding their bikes. What if they want to ride their bikes? What can we do to get them to ride their bikes?
Speaker 1:And it looked like somebody was mouthing 20,000 and he was like 10,000. Yeah, he's always trying to. Duke Best's shady little sidekick, yeah this jack weston guy that played duke best. I think he was 36 years old when they filmed this movie that's.
Speaker 3:That's an 80s, yeah, 30. I think he was like 36 or 38. I wasn't quite sure if the six or an eight when I read it, but he was.
Speaker 2:He was a young man, yeah it's amazing the when you look at these actors like I was looking back at that too the years they were born, christ, did these people look old? I mean?
Speaker 1:christ, I know it's sad man that's always the way it is.
Speaker 3:It's bad food back then I blame aftershave.
Speaker 4:Aftershave, I blame alcohol back alcoholic beverages no alcohol-based um creams and lotions the doctors would be smoking cigarettes, delivering babies yeah, why they're ashing on the head when it's coming out hell yeah my doctor was on cocaine I was actually arrested.
Speaker 2:He did a line off you, I'll call my mom.
Speaker 3:Right now it's a true story why you were being born no, yeah, well, he was high when I was being born, but he was arrested like two weeks later man, we were like for like no, for like drug charges. He was selling. He was selling and doing like a lot of drugs. I'll call my mom it's a great story opiates.
Speaker 1:It's a doctor in the 70s man in middletown dr nick no, it's harrisburg harrisburg hospital oh, in the hospital, yeah, oh shit hi everybody hi, dr nick, you might have been delivered by the same guy could have been. Yeah, damn, I guess. Yeah, he's like say come on, let's go.
Speaker 3:I gotta get. Hurry up, let me get this kid they put like forceps in and fuck my forehead all up.
Speaker 1:It's true story I also wonder, like with mongoose, I'm surprised that they allowed them to use their name and likeness and all that in this movie, because they make the ceo, or whoever this guy is out to be, like kind of an ass yeah, but the name mongoose is repeated.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's just free yeah, free advertising, I get all that. But I'm just saying well, kids don't care about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3:like oh he's like a bad guy, but that mongoose bike is super awesome.
Speaker 2:But I see I dave, I see your point. It's like, well wait, that guy's a bad guy and he represents mongoose.
Speaker 1:I'm not gonna get a mongoose yeah, I want to ride for you know I'm gonna ride, I'm gonna get a gt or a haro or whatever.
Speaker 3:It was only like haro dino gt and red long goose.
Speaker 2:Red line was big right or stew thompson the founder of wendy's I remember stew thompson they were they were white, black and red yeah, that was their race, that was the guy that like raced for him correct. He was a racer like well, not for nothing. What's his name?
Speaker 1:uh, harrow he was a racer too, yeah bob harrow or something bob harrow was correct. Yeah, bob harrow, I think the stew thompson had, like you, push back on your foot to stop it.
Speaker 4:Like that kind of brake, like a foot brake. It had both. It had a single rear back brake.
Speaker 1:It had them all. Oh shit, I think so it was the space balls of bikes.
Speaker 4:It was more like the cross country style BMX versus a trick style.
Speaker 1:I got you.
Speaker 2:It is a trick star. I got you, it had them both and you know it. You know it all right. Well, moving along, we are soon introduced to wesley crew's bratty little sister and mrs jones crew's single mother, who wants him to have nothing to do with bmx and for him to instead focus on his studies, the forthcoming sats and getting into college.
Speaker 3:I think the single mom thing was to pull on your heartstrings a little bit.
Speaker 2:Maybe he had to feel bad for crew. How did his dad die? Did he ever say it?
Speaker 3:He was trying to do a backflip on his BMX bike.
Speaker 1:Is that what it was?
Speaker 3:Yeah it was horrible.
Speaker 2:Okay, we also meet Burton Timmer, a local entrepreneur who's done well for himself and is invested in the financial benefit of the Hell Track race that he'll bring to the town. Despite his age, he, too rides a 20-inch BMX bike. Now, this is the guy from my Favorite, martian yes, and he's rolling in with his coffee and his Danish and whatever. Every morning he gets hit with a newspaper. He's riding a 20 inch BMX. Doesn't make any sense to me. That's funny.
Speaker 3:He was actually 48 when they filmed this yeah, he might have been.
Speaker 1:He was in Fast Times 140,.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was Mr Hand, that's right.
Speaker 4:The bike looked like one of those like Murray like a hybrid Beach cruiser. Yeah, it sat a little higher with the.
Speaker 3:They were like I. I think the 29-inch rims on them.
Speaker 1:That's a huge rim. No, the 29 1⁄2 inches were those bikes?
Speaker 3:Oh, the size, the size of the bike tire was 29 1⁄2 inches on the one that he was riding. It wasn't a 20-inch BMX tire, I don't think that's how it's measured.
Speaker 2:I think the measure of the 20 inch is the distance from the front joint where the steering wheel goes to to like the back, something Like the basic.
Speaker 4:it might be like the neck to the rear yeah the, something like maybe the neck to the seat I always thought like it was like a 20-inch tire, a 24., 26., 26 and a 29.
Speaker 3:I always thought it was a wheel size Wheel size.
Speaker 2:That's what I thought I don't know, though well we might need to mailbag that one I'm pretty please do. Pretty sure it's a frame measurement, but what the fuck do I know?
Speaker 4:where is it? From ground level to? That's what I think oh could be that where the ground, to where the seat?
Speaker 2:yeah that'd be higher than 29 inches the seat. I see, hawk. You might be right that the ground to to where the seat post would go into the frame.
Speaker 3:But wouldn't the tire be that size to where the post is? I?
Speaker 2:don't know. Oh yeah, Wait a minute, Mr Postman.
Speaker 1:This reminds me of do you measure from under the nutsack to the tip?
Speaker 3:No, you go right under the nutsack.
Speaker 2:And you got to pull, you got to definitely pull that sack.
Speaker 3:It's at least nine and a half inches if you measure a certain way.
Speaker 2:Depends, yeah, depends, it depends, all right. Well, the traveling BMX professionals arrive and the town throws a parade. We're introduced to Bart Taylor, bmx champion and poster boy for Mongoose Racing, the Reynolds twins, rex and Rod, who are also on Team Mongooseose, and the two chicks I didn't mention earlier, the two actors foxy and tiger two textbook 80s groupie whores who travel with team mongoose hey, watch your language over there.
Speaker 3:I thought they were amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they were amazing all right and and this is the point where it reminds me of like karate kid on bikes yeah, because he's pretty much. Yeah, it's switched, absolutely, absolutely. And this is the point where it reminds me of like Karate Kid on bikes yeah, because he's your Johnny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's switched, absolutely, absolutely. And this is where we're also introduced to Christian Hollings, a female BMX racer with the traveling team who locks eyes with Crew Jones and its love. At first sight she's a criminal, which was so goddamn cheesy, so cheesy. She's sitting in her car it's an 80s movie as crew is opening the gate for that chick. That the one woman who this guy he's such a nice boy.
Speaker 3:Uh, she was uh 22 for somebody who likes john hughes movies. How can you say that that part was cheesy?
Speaker 2:that was ridiculous. Cheesy, like that was over the top cheese yeah, cheese yeah, uh, hocker comes in with a yeah.
Speaker 4:What'd you?
Speaker 3:think Hocker. Yeah, what did you think, hocker?
Speaker 4:Yeah, when he moves the block out of the road, lets the lady go by, locks eyes. Music's all like he freezes and then he, like, bitches out and pedals away real quick.
Speaker 3:Stop bitching. That's being a gentleman.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it was fear.
Speaker 1:This is fear gentlemen.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it was fear this again. He's in high school, so what is he, 17, supposed?
Speaker 1:to be 17. She's sponsored by mongoose. She's gotta be in her 20s, yeah yeah, oh, you're right, intimidated remember that part.
Speaker 3:Dave and I were watching that when the two girls came to crew and he was like get out of my way, get out of my way. I gotta go talk about bikes.
Speaker 1:I was later on in the movie, but it was. It was a great part. Yeah, the two horse yeah, there's priority. He was afraid of what they knew right what they could do with him I mean, if I'm 17, screw the bike yeah, yeah, I think he did that's the r-rated version. He literally yeah, screw the bike and 4k release.
Speaker 3:That's rad too, getting radical.
Speaker 1:Wow yeah.
Speaker 2:There's a dance tonight at the local high school, and even the BMX champions have arrived to showcase their moves. These are the out-of-towners that show up at a high school dance.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what's up with that?
Speaker 2:So Team Mongoose hits the floor and wows the crowd. Christian sees crew and calls them onto the dance floor to dance with their bikes to the tune of Send Me An Angel. And at the end of the bike dance, crew rides off like Cinderella, leaving Princess Charming little Christian there behind.
Speaker 1:What was up with those outfits?
Speaker 4:The twins.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like more, oh my god dude, you guys know where those?
Speaker 3:outfits are from I know the fun fact behind this.
Speaker 2:They're from Chess King no not from Chess King.
Speaker 3:It could be, but they're from the movie V.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. V about the lizards that were dressed like human beings. They ate mice.
Speaker 1:Sorry, I cut you oh yeah, it was kind of lame. It was a small town, though it was a high school dance.
Speaker 4:True, you know, the BMX kings of the world are there.
Speaker 2:That was creepy as fuck it was like a 10-person show.
Speaker 4:You know it was invite, only Was it everybody. You'd think other schools would be showing up trying.
Speaker 1:You'd think Like XL's there.
Speaker 2:You remember XL. I do remember XL. I had a t-shirt I went to that concert.
Speaker 1:I was there too.
Speaker 3:Screw face open for them.
Speaker 4:Hell yeah, they did, we were standing there watching the band play real quick XL, and they had the power plugged in right at the bottom of the steps at McDavid. Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 2:Somebody knocked the power out.
Speaker 4:That was me In the middle of the thing and it all went dead.
Speaker 2:You did that. I knocked out the.
Speaker 1:OnePlus. That was you. Yeah, that was me.
Speaker 2:I've actually mentioned that. I've mentioned that fact on a different podcast.
Speaker 3:I remember I had on a backward Cleveland Indians hat and the one guy came up, the guitarist came up the steps, grabbed my hat, put it on. I was like oh man, what are you doing?
Speaker 2:He's like what's this guy doing? Give me my hat back. Yeah, dude, you're not eddie van halen, I'm not impressed. Yeah, it wasn't cool. Man thought he signed it and ruined it, xl. So if it wasn't creepy enough that these out-of-town bikers, that the out-of-town bmxers, the champions or whatever the mongoose team as it was, that wasn't creepy enough that they showed up at this dance, I mean, did anyone notice the creepiness of the old men spiking the punch at this high school dance? Well, that's an 80s move.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they don't even have punch bowls anymore.
Speaker 2:No, it's an 80s move for other teenagers to spike the punch. It's kind of a weird creepy thing when old men are there spiking the punch that other kids are going to be drinking.
Speaker 1:Well, who was that? Weinstein, you said in the beginning.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, must have been one of his movies. See it. The blonde, the dude.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Did anyone notice that him in that one horse choreography was basically like the first iteration of the Macarena. Yes, yeah yeah, yeah. They were doing the cross, the chest thing and the hip thrust and the whatever I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there were certain dance sequences in there that reminded me of like Robert Palmer videos. Yes, absolutely, didn't it yeah?
Speaker 3:But that scene, the whole Semi and Angel boogieing on the BMX bikes, that's iconic.
Speaker 1:Do you know that band where they're from, the band that does that song? Semi and Angel what country they're from?
Speaker 3:Norway.
Speaker 1:I just find it interesting High. Spire no. High Spire no, I think they moved there after their success. No, they're from Australia. Huh, I couldn't really sense that in.
Speaker 2:Aborigines.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you know, sometimes you can pick up a little bit of an accent, but I didn't notice that accent.
Speaker 3:If you say yeah, so pick me an alligator.
Speaker 2:All right, so am I the only one? Did anyone else notice? So during that slow motion bike scene between Laurie Laughlin, motion bike scene between laurie laflin and what's his name, uh, did anyone notice? Obviously we certainly all know that laurie laflin is not riding a 20, 20 inch bmx bike like a bmx champion, like anybody can pedal a bike. I get that, but she's not doing the tricks right, I know, I know exactly what you're going.
Speaker 1:Did anyone notice the did?
Speaker 2:anyone notice that goddamn black mask that was over her face?
Speaker 3:well, that, yeah, and the bulge then did you see the dude bulge in her white pants? I did not see that she had like a dude's, a dude's body. You're like what the hell happened there.
Speaker 2:I was too worried about seeing this. Why is she wearing a black mask? And she looked like like she was coming out of the gas chamber mask it was awful.
Speaker 3:I got something to add.
Speaker 4:You know it's a specific part of that scene that he's talking about, where she's riding away like this and you could see the silhouette as a dude, and it was this terrible mask when it's like emulate the back of her hair.
Speaker 1:It was so obvious.
Speaker 4:I'm gonna look for that I mean, you also notice anytime they were doing tricks.
Speaker 1:You never saw their face no, yeah, they're always facing away including bill allen, I don't. I'm pretty sure he didn't do any of it, but no they said, the only stunt he did in this whole movie was when he wrecked through the fence in the beginning.
Speaker 1:Yeah, uh, of the hell track that had the advertisement, yeah, the slide thing, and actually street from 7-eleven right, and actually they said that they had to have guys with strings to pull the like the slats up so that he didn't actually get hurt yeah but I gotta go back and watch that for the mask now I'm telling you there was a black mask not mimicking the back of a person's hair, I'm saying on the rider's face, yeah I was distracted because matt and I were in a theater joking like that's a guy's ass, like you know and you could like, because you can see he had like white, she had white pants on and we like you see, you see her figure, like when she gets up to like ride she's standing up.
Speaker 3:And also you see, like, like a dude's butt yeah, dick swinging like what the hell best stop man, that's like come on, come on. There was other parts too like her, like when they were riding somewhere, like her wig would go like sideways when she like do a jump, like come on it was like that space balls and they did the stunt, you know, and then, and then they break character and you should have got with the mustache and beard and stuff.
Speaker 2:That's the princess, you know oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, but she's smoking a cigar. Yeah, yeah, or he's smoking a cigar, right hawk. Did you fancy the? Uh, the, the bike dance sequence? Oh, I thought it was cool, man, I mean the song made it of course, you know, despite the lousiness of this movie, that was by far and away my favorite and probably only liked part of that movie was the dance sequence. The dance sequence. Because of that song, only because of the song, did you see this movie back in the day.
Speaker 1:I did Okay.
Speaker 2:I did and I'm sure I remember loving it back in the day, thinking, wow, man, that's cool as shit. Now I can tell you that of that, $2 million, that was earned at the theater to see it. But I know that I saw this as a little kid.
Speaker 1:Okay, I got you Like in video rental or something like that I got you.
Speaker 3:I think I saw it on HBO.
Speaker 4:Do you think the two million that was made includes, like popcorn, yeah right. Rad t-shirts the replacement of the sponsorships, like Kix and Coke was all over it, not to mention Mongoose, haro, kuwahara, red line all the, everything that was contributed in.
Speaker 1:I wonder if they uh just donate product or something. Yeah, I wonder if there's any monetary like product placement.
Speaker 2:I'm sure they probably paid the studio that's where I think hawk is going with that yeah so they say, hey, yeah, we did two million at the box office, but what? You know 100 grand of that was kicks right. Yeah, 200 was coke right part of that figure you know not to be confused with the coke that your birthing doctor was on yeah, yeah, right that coke cola he was on the shit man, mr brown.
Speaker 2:No, not mr brownstone no, the white pony, all right. Well, the next day, while practicing his stunts and wearing a hockey mask for protection, krew receives some freestyle pointers from Christian. Unable to control their throbbing carnal urges, the two begin to develop a relationship. It's the day of the qualifying round. Not surprisingly, team Mongoose wins first, second and third place. But next up is the qualifying races for the locals and, despite his mother's dislike for it, crew races and narrowly defeats all competitors. After two races he's going to the championship.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was even taking some falls and stuff and still ended up in the he did.
Speaker 3:That was a great part. That was a good montage for any kid. My son who went to the movie with me he's younger. He really enjoyed that part. He thought it was really cool.
Speaker 1:And the racing yeah.
Speaker 2:There's a thunder in your heart. Every move is like lightning.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that was a good jam.
Speaker 2:It's the power you feel when you get your taste of the glory.
Speaker 3:My God. But what Hawk said with the montages in the 80s is classic.
Speaker 2:Oh for sure you will never see that again. That doesn't happen anymore. That's a goddamn shame.
Speaker 4:Every reputable 80s movie has some kind of montage in it that you just remember about that movie. They used it, though, to close a lot of gaps, just to transition.
Speaker 2:Again. The first three minutes of the 90 minutes of this movie was an entire song and an entire montage. Can we fill the gaps.
Speaker 3:Can we pay somebody to get like um, use their rights to their music so we can do like a montage for this on like youtube channel, like I think a odb montage would be. That would take us like like sylvester stallone would be over the top.
Speaker 1:Well, we can use music like it doesn't like from this. There's one song on this fun fact might as well spit it out now in this movie that you cannot get anywhere other than on YouTube because they lost the recording of it During the race scene there's a song that plays and the only way you can hear it is it's pieced together on YouTube and you can hear the crowd in the background, but the actual original recording is gone.
Speaker 3:But you see, like zap, like writing some stuff down, like looking in on the cyclopedia, then he's like typing stuff up and like it's matted a paper and like throws it down, yeah, and then you're in here and you're like editing and like it, like screeches, and you smack the machine and stuff and they show me like I'm at home, like on the couch watching tv, drinking a coffee?
Speaker 1:yeah, maybe it'd be cool like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I would dig that.
Speaker 3:All of matt's moves are like lightning the uh I like get mad because my like my controller doesn't work.
Speaker 2:I like a good, gotta go get batteries and stuff, be awesome getting back to your question about getting rights to music, look, I'm a I'm a fan of. Why don't we just use it and wait for somebody to sue us?
Speaker 3:because I could use the attention yeah, true because a lot of the stuff we do anyway, I mean we're using stuff off the internet, we're taking things and putting it to, to writing and then talking about it but here's the thing when you use it, like the different places that we are can take the content down, so you risk the you know, the reward versus the risk.
Speaker 1:It's like how do you delete a whole episode or you don't. They're not able to access it because they're flagging you for copyright what do you think? Hawk and it's crazy how accurate it is like. So our theme music is from tsunami experiment and I know the tsunami experiment. The guy gave me the music. Do you do whatever you know I want with it. As far as for theme music and all that, he owns it, but it gets flagged on youtube all the time.
Speaker 3:But do you think the risk is worth the reward? Do you think like what do we have to lose?
Speaker 1:An episode You're not going to get blood out of a stone.
Speaker 2:You're not going to get blood, but don't you have permission for them.
Speaker 1:So there's like a third party that's involved that tells YouTube when this song pops up, flag it and if this monetizes, like for that, for his music, if it monetizes, they'll take that money away. But a lot of stuff they'll take the video down or they'll make you take it down or whatever. They'll have lawyers that are actually like on that shit.
Speaker 3:See, I thought that shit was over with like Napster and stuff. I thought, like music is music, you can just pull it.
Speaker 1:But it gets to a point where, right now, yeah, pull it. But it gets to a point where, right now, yeah, it might not matter as much, but if you ever get to a point where you are monetizing, then they step in and take your money.
Speaker 4:It's all about.
Speaker 1:Benjamins.
Speaker 3:We'll get J-Dub to answer this for us. Let's see what J-Dub has to say. Go to our lawyer for this as a criminal defense attorney.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure what he'd be able to provide, but I'm sure he will provide a lot more than any one of us know exactly we get them to slip and fall?
Speaker 4:yeah, yeah, maybe then that's your question I really think it has to do when it does monetize so it's back to the story.
Speaker 2:I don't, you know. I'm sorry to bother you at work, but you know. Back to the story. During crew and uh, christian's date in the woods. Uh, did anyone else find it funny to hear laurie laughlin's character ask about college?
Speaker 1:yeah, I guess she that's game. Yeah, this game with her kids.
Speaker 2:It's hilarious. Oh, speaking of interesting, so talia shire right actress, whatever playing. Mrs jones, she's down in the basement ironing. Did anyone notice she unrolls a blanket to iron yes, I didn't notice who's who's ironing a fucking blanket. That's 80s stuff, man.
Speaker 3:I'm pretty sure her mom's probably ironed blankets. It's just something to iron.
Speaker 2:Speaking of mom, according to Crew, the only thing I'm good at is riding this bike. God damn, this acting is terrible in this movie. His mom's like no, you got to stick with your studies, come on, mom, the only thing I'm good at is riding this bike. Right, I'm good at is riding this bike. Really, that's all you can do is ride a bike, he thinks he has a shot.
Speaker 4:I really think I have a shot.
Speaker 3:It's an 80s movie about BMX bikes. It's not going to be. It was good for what?
Speaker 4:it was at the time. It was a 90-minute commercial for BMX.
Speaker 2:Thank you, Thrashing was a 90-minute movie for skateboards, that's fair, that's absolutely fair.
Speaker 3:G skateboarding yeah, that's fair. That's absolutely fair.
Speaker 1:Gleaming the cube for christian slater yeah, I wonder how that held up. I haven't seen that in a while.
Speaker 2:We might, might have to put that on the list I don't think I've ever seen.
Speaker 1:Really it's a pretty cool movie. I remember liking it.
Speaker 2:But I liked gleaming the cube better than thrashing yeah, I have thrashing on dvd out there.
Speaker 1:Nice hook in the daggers. That was the uh brolin's gang or whatever.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, that was cool. Yeah, I thought you meant.
Speaker 1:Cloak and Dagger. Cloak and the Dagger yeah.
Speaker 2:So fun fact his name. He goes by Crew, but his actual birth name for this movie is Christopher. Yeah, you can hear Talia Shire actually addresses him as Christopher at some point. So while people call him Crew, Mama call him Christian. I'm sorry, christopher, that's right. Christian is Laurie Lawson's character.
Speaker 3:You had that set up so well and then it failed. Yeah, it's okay, it's a good try.
Speaker 2:All right. Well, the next day Crew is approached by Duke Best to join Mongoose Racing, but he declines. When Crew arrives at the track for practice, he's stopped and told that he needs a sponsor. A sudden change of the rules by none other than Duke Best, and we see a concerned Mr Timmer off in the distance overhearing the conversation. Crew's sister thoughtfully crafts a Crew is rad t-shirt for her brother. Esther thoughtfully crafts a crew is rad t-shirt for her brother. Motivated by this gesture, crew and his friends use the $10,000 he'd won at the qualifying race to start a t-shirt company, rad racing, which gives him the sponsor he needs Crews and Christian's relationship grows.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this part of the movie is frustrating for me because we have old, dirty basement t-shirts we can't sell this guy's making 50 grand.
Speaker 2:I know shit On t-shirts. This guy's selling hundreds and hundreds of t-shirts.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:We don't know. I guess we haven't. Maybe the old Dirty Basement needs a BMX ride.
Speaker 3:We should I already saw one of our t-shirts at Community Aid. Somebody gave it up. I was going through. I was like, oh, look at that.
Speaker 1:Oh man, that hurts. At least somebody's making money on it. I was like God damn.
Speaker 2:So, Matt, it's actually during this segment of the movie, a part you had mentioned earlier. This is where Foxy and Tiger attempt to pick up Crew as he's walking down the street. He gets all scarred, christ, their hair, their outfits, just so slutty.
Speaker 3:I think they look hot as anything Like I'm into that 80s look, I really dig it.
Speaker 2:I dig an 80s.
Speaker 1:look, this was just crap, where they take the T-shirt and crumble it up and cut and then when they open it up it has like the holes. You know what?
Speaker 4:I mean, oh yeah, like snowflake, snowflake stuff yeah, that was cool I remember that.
Speaker 2:So a sweatshirt, but he'd cut the sleeves off and he'd cut maybe a little bit of the neck out of the sweatshirt. Am I the only one who had that too? We used to wear those to the gym.
Speaker 3:Shit yeah In the 90s.
Speaker 1:I got one in Under Armour. It's just like that. She calls it my Rocky sweatshirt, but I cut my own.
Speaker 2:Hey old Michelle, Did yours come that way? Did you have to cut it?
Speaker 3:No, it came like that oh see yeah, that's beat, you got to cut your own, bro.
Speaker 2:That makes you from the street.
Speaker 3:That's like freshman football. Remember cutting t-shirts and using the sleeves as like a headband for your helmet.
Speaker 1:Remember cut-off shirts.
Speaker 2:Like back in the 80s, like I had to wear cut-off shirts.
Speaker 1:You mean like Foxy and Tiger were wearing.
Speaker 3:Tiger were wearing. Yeah, but I was like dudes I'd wear them and stuff my dad had like an avia one half shirt? Yeah, but it was like he bought it like that I had a store I had one from pony sneakers.
Speaker 1:Yeah, pony was yeah dude, yeah that was cool, like you know, but I had the belly for that back then I don't think I ever had the belly for any of those ever yeah, definitely not.
Speaker 2:I'm working on a belly built for two.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but yeah, there were some cool, cool styles in this movie.
Speaker 3:I like it, hawk, and I had Lyman bellies.
Speaker 1:Little booters and stuff yeah. But, I like this movie for the nostalgia, for sure.
Speaker 2:I know it's not a great movie. I know I'm joking around about how terrible this movie is. It is bad, I guess while it is bad, I certainly look back on this with a great fondness and a nostalgia for sure telling you going to see it with my son at the theater, like like you would do, like if you were young.
Speaker 3:I thought it was really cool but, like you said, it wasn't like a fantastic movie, but it was a fun watch for 90 minutes no, yeah, I know what you mean for sure.
Speaker 2:All right, our movie continues. As mr timmer gets to know Duke Best, he swiftly learns that this guy is a scoundrel. Lo and behold, sneaky old Duke Best changes the rules yet again. A sponsor must be worth at least $50,000. Well, crew and his crew are screwed Until the townsfolk rally together and raise $23,000 for him. That, along with a very generous $27,000 donation from Mr Timmer, gets Crew to the $50,000 mark he needs. Teamwork, teamwork. Old, my Favorite, martian, came through there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was wondering the whole time like I forgot because I haven't seen it in a while. I'm like why isn't this guy just stepping in and painting because you know he has the money? You just look at him, he looks rich.
Speaker 2:You know, with the boat he looks yeah, I mean, he's got that 20 his bike's chrome.
Speaker 1:It's not painted, it's chrome right, just the way he was dressed. I guess you saw a profile like that. That's right, but I'm looking at him like that.
Speaker 3:He was in business or whatever with Duke Best. Those guys were running something together right.
Speaker 2:Well, duke Best came to town. So Mr Timmer is the local. He's the Mr Wealthy of the local town so he got a hold. I'm guessing you could piece it together that somehow, someway, if Duke Best is coming to town he's going to find the richest guy in town, because the richest guy in town, mr timmer, is going to be the one that he can throw some backing.
Speaker 3:He throws some backing.
Speaker 2:He knows the sponsors. He knows how to corral things.
Speaker 4:He knows how to get it's the neighborhood that's organized gotcha, he's like the obama of canada he was saying 50 of something, though I never saw the scene where they actually made the deal. I guess later on towards the end of the movie, when Duke best figures out that you know the old man was like behind you? Yeah, he was like 50% of that, that's right.
Speaker 1:He's like yeah.
Speaker 4:So whatever deal he had there on the back end of that, I don't know if it was tied in with the whole merchandise Connor and the merchandise guy. You know who knows.
Speaker 1:But rad racing.
Speaker 4:I don't know you can still get rad racing t-shirts off the internet. You can. Yeah, you definitely can.
Speaker 1:That's the beauty of the internet you can get any of that cool shit. I love this movie, lover boy with Patrick Dempsey.
Speaker 3:I don't know why it's like I love the band lover boy and the movie lover you know lover boy.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3:I do not know the this pizza shop called senior pizza senior pizza and uh, they dress like uh he became a gigolo. Yeah, basically he would get paid to have sex delivering pizzas.
Speaker 1:Sexy time I wanted a senior pizza t-shirt like they wore in the movie, and you couldn't get that back. This is in the 90s or whatever, so I had to make it. So I went to like, wow, the craft store, holy shit. Yeah, that's how dedicated but you were involved.
Speaker 1:You're a super fan that's awesome because I love that movie. I was like, yeah, that's a cool shirt, I want senior pizza. It looked like shit, the one I made, but now I could go online on one of these t-shirt, any of these t-shirt sites, and get any of that shit so this is senior pizza, like mexican pizza right, they dressed me, they had sombreros not like a pizza you would get at a nursing home, which is senior pizza. Senior pizza. Yeah, that's a senior pizza.
Speaker 3:It is a cool movie.
Speaker 1:It's great, not as cool as the band Lover boy. No, working for the weekend, everybody's working for that weekend, yeah.
Speaker 3:You can actually get the crew bike also on the internet that. Mongoose the same exact one, all the same stuff.
Speaker 2:So I was going to ask about that at the end, but hell, since we're talking about it.
Speaker 4:So cruise bike was a chrome bike. It had blue tires, it had some red whatever to it. What kind of bike was that? I believe it's a mongoose. It's 1985 mongoose californian.
Speaker 2:That's what it was, wow out of nowhere, hawk with the wind, yeah okay, 1985, mongoose.
Speaker 4:What's that?
Speaker 1:I remember I wanted one bad I was gonna say what bikes did you guys have back in the day?
Speaker 3:I had a purple GT Pro Performer with white mags, they snoss and I had the front and rear pegs.
Speaker 1:Did you guys have bikes like that?
Speaker 2:No, no, I had a Huffy.
Speaker 4:I had a 20-inch. Huffy, yeah, I had a 20-inch.
Speaker 2:Huffy, that I ended up painting and I ended up, uh, putting like all of the add-ons you could possibly imagine, right, all the, the pegs, the laid-back seat, all of that shit. Hell, one of the things you saw in this a few times in this movie were the, the wheel covers that would go.
Speaker 1:The discs, the.
Speaker 2:The full-on covers the full-on plastic covers that would go over the entire.
Speaker 1:Spoke of the wheels I had those as well.
Speaker 2:Oh shit yeah but no, from a brand name. Yeah, it was just a huffy.
Speaker 1:None of that shit would you have shay well, I had that's what he said california in 83. I wanted one in the worst way. My grandparents got me the mongoose californian but it was 83 model. They didn't really change that much. That's why I know that bike he was riding was definitely a mongoose. I didn't know. It was a californian for sure. But now that you confirmed that yeah, because there was other ones, there was like a mongoose expert and a month they had different, uh, different like models within the line. Super goose was one.
Speaker 2:I think this just answered the question, then, why this would have been good for mongoose, because, despite the fact that the bad guy was the head of mongoose racing, the good guy was riding a fucking mongoose right I had to go to the interweb for that answer, though, because they'd never tell you in the movie what it is.
Speaker 4:Well, I don't know how it was in the theater, but when I was watching it on the tv, you couldn't make couldn't make anything out.
Speaker 3:No see what that was well, I think he had, uh, what is that? Like the ball protector guard over top of like the mongoose on the? Yeah, what is it?
Speaker 3:just the wrap the pad, the pad yeah it goes across the main frame yeah, yeah, I got some cool fun facts which wouldn't do anything at all, if you actually like, missed your seat and landed there, kind of did, but not still be hurting so in one of these parts of this movie here the the scene where the the crowd all around the townsfolk rally together to raise money for crew.
Speaker 2:The cop stands, stands up, the old coachee's there. He stands up. He said look, I've chased all these kids around town, but this crew and his friends, they're special. Until, all of a sudden, this cop, who's supposed to be the enforcement. You're led to believe in the beginning oh, this is the cop, he's just bringing the kids down. Now, all of a sudden, oh I like these kids, despite chasing them and them trespassing and doing all kinds of shit. No, I like these kids now.
Speaker 1:Weren't bad kids. Ah yeah, Bad guy becomes good then.
Speaker 2:I guess that they just had to look. They got an hour and a half. They had All right. Meanwhile, back to the movie. The day of the race has arrived. Duke Best tells the Reynolds twins to take crew out during the race. Every possible racer is introduced and finally the race begins. Yeah, the action is high. The race is intense. Try though they may, the Reynolds twins' feeble attempts at stopping crew fail. Worse yet, champion Bart Taylor takes out both of the Reynolds twins who are on his same team. Yeah, what was up with that? I don't get it. I just know that.
Speaker 3:Well, he took them out because they were told to take crew out and he wanted the race to be somewhat fair. Instead of them coming towards the end and one of them like blocking crew or not letting him get close. That's why I took him out, really.
Speaker 2:Yes, okay, this might explain why, when it's uh, it's down to a one-on-one between bart and crew and he stops. Yeah, it's a close one, but crew ends up winning. Nope, all right, so anyway, do best.
Speaker 3:Fires bart for the mongoose racing and not but a moment later, crew offers him a job at rad racing yeah now, if if you go back and take a look at the movie they say if you slow it down at the end of the race? There they say bart actually wins the race because crew does that twisty turn at the end. Oh, that's right, that's right, so yeah, so crew is in the middle of turning and bart's crossing the finish line, and then crew comes in after bart actually wins that they would have replay back.
Speaker 1:Then he would have won. Yes, shit. So this explains so much this really explains so much.
Speaker 2:I wasn't sure why bart stopped in the middle of the race just to wait for crew to catch up. And you're saying that there was something. How did I miss that part?
Speaker 4:well he said early on when best came over and told the twins hey, you're gonna take him out, sweet you're gonna win. Yes, basically sweep the legs they looked pretty pretty much.
Speaker 3:And.
Speaker 4:Bart says hey, that's bullshit, you know.
Speaker 3:I can beat him. I got him. Yeah so but Bart called him up one on one to be like look, this is you and I, let's go.
Speaker 4:Hmm, that's, that's why your shot. Yeah, I gave you a shot, boy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, right, yeah, even though Bart won.
Speaker 4:I wondered that when I saw the other, because he does the little he does, like a twisty tourney.
Speaker 2:See, I'm going to get a t-shirt that reads, instead of Rad Racing, I'm just going to have one that reads Bart 1.
Speaker 1:Bart 1, that's awesome, that's good. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2:So that's all I got on this one, In fact, the only note I have on this one. We mentioned it earlier. The only thing I liked about it was the same studio and distributor who released real genius, which is try the same one.
Speaker 1:Try star okay and that's.
Speaker 3:Uh, that's one of zap's faves 100 that's a good movie. Yeah, how about the uh?
Speaker 2:the talia picture thing at the beginning said anything to do with talia shire, you think I saw, so I saw that too, as as the opening credits are going, and it's something, talia yeah maybe she tell you the name. I gotta Hawk. You're right with that. I got to believe A name like Talia. It's too coincidental. She probably got a cut of the two million after spending a million.
Speaker 4:Maybe you know 86. I mean, what was that at that time? That was like Rocky IV.
Speaker 1:So she buys some bank? Yeah, she was doing well. Well, I guess it's about that time for.
Speaker 2:Fun Facts Nice.
Speaker 1:What do you got? So do you know what the original title of this was supposed to be? Balls Out, Balls Out. Yeah, they even mention that in one of the scenes, I think. What's his name?
Speaker 2:The.
Speaker 1:Sheriff, no, walston or whatever.
Speaker 2:Oh, my Favorite, Martian Guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he tells them to go balls out or something Nice nice whatever.
Speaker 3:Oh, my favorite Martian guy, he tells him to go balls out or something nice nice actually hell track when the wall in the beginning that they went down it was actually when they made that.
Speaker 1:It was like 50 feet and people were getting all messed up on it.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, they said, I'm not doing it, it was almost like a vertical drop yes. So all these like BMX guys were like, no, we're not freaking doing it. So they had to cut it down to 25 feet and I guess they said they were okay with that. So yeah, like, can you imagine a 50 foot wall on that track?
Speaker 1:it's crazy yeah, it'd be crazy, crazy man. So, uh, this one was featured on riff tracks live you ever watch that where those guys make fun of the movies like the uh, mystery science theater guys, guys, I would have liked to seen that that was in august of 2023. They did it because this one I think we could have fun with let me go see a riff track. One time we did, we saw a live riff track who was that?
Speaker 3:what movie was that?
Speaker 1:it was like some b horror movie or something it was.
Speaker 3:It was really good, though it was funny one live yeah, so is that or a hockey gun.
Speaker 1:Any fun facts?
Speaker 4:yeah, I mean eddie fiola real bmx racer yeah did all the stunt work for crew or or for Bill Allen, I guess we should say, which, I guess, is why you never saw his face.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was always makes sense.
Speaker 4:I don't know, other than you know, the 20 guys that were up there. I think 19 of them were really professional BMXers, absolutely when they ran the race. It was cool to see. I didn't remember a single one of them other than you know, bart Bart Bart.
Speaker 1:How about Mike Miranda? You know that name. I guess he was a professional.
Speaker 4:Yeah, chiharo.
Speaker 1:So he they said he was paid 500 for every time he would fall. So during the Hell Track race he fell three times, so it was 1,500 bucks.
Speaker 4:Is that the guy? They commented about that yeah, he's down again, he's down again. They commented about that yeah, he's down, again Down again yeah.
Speaker 1:He's just trying to make money and shit he's like okay.
Speaker 2:I had read someplace that, while all those guys were, in fact, professional racers, none of them could finish Hell Track.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, they said they had to film it in sections because it was so hard to do and stuff like that.
Speaker 4:It just didn't look like a track that was built for, like, racing.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 4:You know, what I mean for, I guess, hollywood. Yeah, it's hollywood.
Speaker 3:We always cereal, it's that just didn't make any sense. That was the kicks. Kicks was buying up all that stuff yeah, how coincidental um his friend luke. Uh, he was the ninth canadian. Since we love canada so much to a climb, mount everest thanks oh wow, about that, congratulations, fun fact so a good buddy that I grew up with and we all know, know him.
Speaker 1:We went to school with him. Jimmy C, we'll say Yep. So I gave him a call today. I reached out to him because this kid, when we were growing up we were all big into BMX and he went into skateboarding like most people did. There was that transition and so I talked to him earlier today. We had a nice conversation. I, um, we had a nice conversation. I told him we're doing this movie, shout out to jimmy um, so did you know? And he was sending me links on different things. I got a lot of cool fun facts on bmx and that whole culture and stuff. But there was actually, uh, a aba nationals was like the kind of like what they were showing there, like the american bmx association, whatever they had in like a nationals, like a competition at the farm show. Back in 1984. Jimmy was there. He like a, sparked a memory when we were talking about. He sent me a link. It's on youtube. You can see this race at the farm show 1984.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was there racing as a kid he.
Speaker 1:He was pissed because he wanted, in the worst way, to go out and ride his bike out there like eight or nine.
Speaker 3:I was gonna say, yes, seven or eight maybe, but they start racing.
Speaker 1:I think it's six yeah, yeah, but they wouldn't let the public anybody out on the track or whatever. His dad took him and his brothers I guess he was telling me like via text we had talked earlier and he sent me all these links but yeah, so that was going on down at the farm show Like a similar race to this Hell Track.
Speaker 1:I think it yeah, the catholic version yeah, the catholic one, but uh, I thought that was pretty interesting and we were talking about bike culture and all that stuff growing up. Sorry, go ahead. Reminds me of a story.
Speaker 4:Go ahead, go for it you brought the catholic thing into when we were kids and I don't know if you guys did this. Let me borrow this quick oh, go ahead you ever do the thing where you draw the picture on the sheet and you flip it through. Yeah, yeah, like a we used to do that with little half pipes and skateboards.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, oh, with the skateboards.
Speaker 4:One kid wrote Hell Track on the side of the thing. Oh shit, yeah. And one of the nuns I think it was in sixth grade. She came up and snatched his book from him, ripped it out. Was like you can't write that in there.
Speaker 3:And to get like that's crazy when you said that that's awesome. You get sparked from the mind of hawk. That's what this is all about, man like nostalgic and sparking memories and shit. So, so funny that that bart connor as bart taylor uh, he's no more for this movie than than his olympic gold medals yeah, people go up to him all the time and stuff yeah he's like aren't you from, uh rad?
Speaker 1:he's like I'm also an olympic gold medal medal list even shack went up to him and said I loved you in rad. He said Shaquille O'Neal. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Seriously, yeah, seriously, like the Iron Cross or you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:He's like come on, man, I worked my ass off to be in the Olympics. That's hilarious.
Speaker 1:So back to the fun facts that I was kind of talking to Jimmy, like bouncing stuff off. Here are the brands that uh, now we named a bunch of them, but a couple of these. Maybe you never heard of some of them, maybe you forgot pk ripper did you ever hear that one?
Speaker 1:no yeah, hutch trickstar definitely heard of hutch. So hutch was like a really you know, kind of a. I knew one kid and that's what, jimmy, we confirmed. I was like, do you remember these? Yeah, this one kid, dave, had a heart. Uh, I'm sorry, a hutch trickstar, and it was like he was the only one I thought it was like check out my hutch. Yeah, not that kid okay but uh, haro, gt which jimmy had, a gt mach one which was like a killer, but killer bike, uh, that was super expensive it was.
Speaker 4:It was a nice bike. Yeah, I gotta, they were all expensive. Yeah, correct, dino diamondback.
Speaker 1:Yep, raleigh the huffy. Sue thompson, here's one. Maybe you forgot about Kuwahara, nope.
Speaker 3:Kuwahara.
Speaker 4:Japanese Hucker mentioned Kuwahara A kid used to come to our baseball games that had and they all had them. All the rich kids had the flashiest bikes back then. But he had a Kuwahara that was like custom painted and it had little like his initials, like airbrushed on it.
Speaker 1:Oh nice Sayings and stuff damn really really far I remember it so vividly.
Speaker 3:Red line yeah, red line and skyway I don't remember skyway the
Speaker 1:last two you mentioned were actually featured in this film yeah, skyway, they actually showed it in the uh in the films, um, some accessories that you'd put on your bike back in the day number plates. So you saw that all through the movie. I remember I did that to my bike. Uh, we used to do this with my friends, mr Yuck Stickers, remember those?
Speaker 4:Yeah, we did.
Speaker 1:We would put them on everything. We would put them on our bikes, skateboards, whatever. Odie Mushroom Grips. Yeah, they were like handlebar grips.
Speaker 3:I had mushroom grips. Yeah, they were the ones that were spiral cut.
Speaker 1:They were rib a ham, but it was rear hands. Now, if you remember when you would ride a bike, all day long, you would get calluses on your knuckles, so you put donut grips yes, on the ends. Checkerboard was the one I'd always get.
Speaker 3:I had dice on my valve stems. That was another one.
Speaker 1:yes, and I was always. I did the dice as well. Down there, hutch layback seat.
Speaker 2:So you had to have a layback seat yes, and I think one of you said you did that, I put so I got a standard hoppy bike.
Speaker 1:But I bought all the accessories, right yeah right, right. So for wheels like you, like my bike came stock with, uh, like the kind of like a wire wheel, like the chrome, whatever spokes spokes yeah spokes. Yeah, that's right. Uh, skyway made wheels called. We called them toughy twos, but they were tough two wheels, and they were like a star rim, and that's what you saw a lot of in that movie. It was like a plastic mag right, that's what I had.
Speaker 1:I had white mags, yeah, on the gt so later on I did that on my bike when I got a little older and saved. I got saved some money up and I tricked my bike out and got some star mags. I remember the padding that, matt, you're talking about. We would replace the stock padding with like checkerboard, so I had a black and white. That was the theme of mine the wrap.
Speaker 2:You're saying wrap the wrap that goes around the pad velcro.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yep, yep, yep, bear trap pedals, those are the ones that would dig into your shins. Really, really bad.
Speaker 2:They were horrible pedals fuck, those were awesome but, yeah, when you, if you landed wrong or you even riding, if you kick back the wrong way, you're fucking your shins yeah, I took my plastic ones off and got white bear traps and I I had to take them back off because like especially just riding.
Speaker 3:You would like kick because you're, you're uh, sprocket you would. It would just kick around. There was nothing to stop it, like the old bikes. So it would always go back and hit me in the shin Kick you.
Speaker 4:They were pretty brutal, man, I bet you guys in the summer, when you get tanned up, still have some scarring on your shin. Oh sure, yeah, definitely do, because everybody got torn doing that.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, and when I was looking up accessories and talking to Jimmy, the bear traps was one of the things, and as soon as we talked about it, same thing. Like you said, zab, I remember getting torn up from those spiky. And then pegs. We all put pegs on our bike and there was a set of pegs that would spin and I don't know what. Really, I don't remember those. I never had anything like that. And remember, on the trick bikes you could spin the handlebars all the way around.
Speaker 4:Yes, the rotor. I did not have a rotor on my gooseneck Huffy.
Speaker 2:Nor did I. My Huffy didn't work that way. A GT rotor.
Speaker 3:You guys, your brake cords would get all twisted up.
Speaker 4:It was more dirt and jumping and stuff. I couldn't do them spin things and shit.
Speaker 3:We're talking about all these bikes. Do you guys remember I was thinking back? I have no idea what happened to my bike.
Speaker 1:Oh, I do. I know what happened to mine.
Speaker 2:I'm pissed. Did it get stolen?
Speaker 1:Mine got stolen, oh wow, well, no, mine my dad sold it, your dad my mom sold everything. So I was 16. Yeah, I was 16 and driving and my dad was cleaning stuff out and sold my bike for like 50 bucks. I came home him I was like where's my mongoose at? He's like, oh, I sold it. We were cleaning out, we did like a yard sale or something. I'm like what I had like five, six hundred dollars locked up in that bike.
Speaker 3:Call somebody back and get me that's what I had a uh, I had it was close to a thousand dollar ride snowboard and I had like everything like tricked I like for for like my shoe. I had like everything with this and I took it to new mexico to ride there for a summer and I was, was over there over the summer, stayed road like for that winter and then came back home, back to PA, and my grandmother sold it at a yard sale. God damn it. Instead of sending it, like I was like, oh, just send it back, you know whenever, thanks, and then sold it.
Speaker 1:One other thing, and Jimmy brought this up and sent me a link and I'm like, as soon as I saw it, I remembered it from bmx plus, it was like an all the jimmy c in there yeah, jimmy c.
Speaker 1:It looked like jimmy c actually probably but, uh, yeah, it was like a cool comic strip that they put in every episode, every uh, you know, uh, what do you call it? Not article, but uh, issue of bmx plus was radical rick, so yeah, there was like a lot of cool things that we talked about. He did bring up a cool thing this movie kind of, at the time it came out, bmx was kind of dying off, to be honest, yeah, and there was that transition into skateboarding yep which I got into skateboarding, but not like most kids, like jimmy and all them.
Speaker 1:my friends were way more into skateboarding than I was. I liked BMX because of the transportation Sure.
Speaker 2:You know, yeah, you killed many birds with one stone there. Look, we all know. As soon as you got a bike, that was your ticket to freedom. Like you could do anything with a bike.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like we would travel, you know, all over Harrisburg with the bike and skateboard to get tired out. Yeah, you know he skates. Yeah, for sure, for sure, walking half the time.
Speaker 4:Yeah, did you guys skateboard.
Speaker 3:I got way more into skateboarding than I was into my BMX stage.
Speaker 1:You zapped, you skated.
Speaker 2:I skated, but I was definitely more into my bike than.
Speaker 1:I was into skating.
Speaker 2:I thought, I was yeah, all in 30 seconds I remember my dad didn't want me skateboarding like.
Speaker 1:I had to like really talk him into getting a skateboard because he was worried about getting hurt, because I mean, I played other, I played football you're gonna be in the nfl day?
Speaker 3:yeah, exactly, don't you dare get hurt. It is mine, you know. Lose your scholarship.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was like I don't want you on that, you're gonna get hurt. You're gonna get hurt and I wanted one in the worst way.
Speaker 3:He finally gave in and let me get a skateboard no, our, um, our neighborhood was pretty into, into skating, like we had um dads would build, like you know, uh, we had like a little mini half um we had a couple like skate ramps that we had like we put out in the middle of the road like game on, like so we had that too.
Speaker 2:We definitely had that too. Uh, just quarter pipes, not half pipes. So we definitely had quarter pipes, and whomever local dads would put them together, put them in the street, and whatever we would do that, some people would use it for both, like if the quarter pipe was big enough. Some dudes were using their bikes on it and the other kids were using their skateboards on it right we used to in our neighborhood.
Speaker 3:I lived on top of this big hill and we used to take, uh, mr zog, sex wax yeah, and we put like big areas of just like, uh, we'd the street, so you would go down and like you would, you know, go to, like slide and stuff, and you'd like spin around and stuff, but cars would go down and start like fishtailing and stuff, oh shit. My dad was out there like spraying hose and everything. I was like God damn kids.
Speaker 1:You're a menace, menace to society.
Speaker 4:Society misses that stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah stuff. Yeah, that was part of I'd love to go out there and see kids skating in the street. Yeah, that was good, clean, fun. I don't see kids skating anywhere anymore. I don't see kids on bmx bikes anywhere. I don't see kids doing nothing they're all.
Speaker 4:They're all skating, doing whatever with things over their eyeballs virtual reality shit on their phones or whatever, yeah seems to be, if you're not in like traveling sports and you're not doing much anymore.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's what he ruined. Sports too, cause I remember like every season you play something different and now everybody's just playing like baseball or basketball year round, or I don't know.
Speaker 1:One other thing we taught Zap sent a link and we've sent links between each other is the value of these bikes now? Which? Is insanity, like my bike, for instance. They got looked up. Now Mongoose did re-release, now you can get which they're sold out. Right now you can buy a mongoose californian remake like basically they're remaking them. They're like four or five hundred bucks, but if you want an og one, they're thousands, thousands. Yeah, in the gts there was a pro performer one of you sent. It was like that was.
Speaker 3:That was mine, like the lavender, the purple I said yeah, I found that.
Speaker 2:And I said oh, because you were talking about get one for your son yeah, the one that's boxed is is like eight thousand dollars that's a crazy amount. That's rigged.
Speaker 1:God damn ridiculous I did learn something because we talked about this on value.
Speaker 3:Here's one in a box. Eighteen thousand, that's the one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, boomtown so I learned something about the values of um, like we talked about back to the Future. Somebody was selling one for 20 grand. Do you know that people put those things on eBay and it's a placeholder, they call it. So let's say like you have something that you think eventually is going to be worth something, if you put it on eBay at like a crazy value, it's never going to sell, but you'll always be the first one in order.
Speaker 2:Like when people are searching for it.
Speaker 1:So you put it on for 20,000,. Let's say back to the future. It's not going to sell, but you'll always be the number one search because you've been on there the longest. So eventually, when you do sell it and you want to get top dollar, you'll be at the top.
Speaker 2:People do it as a placeholder, because you don't pay eBay until you sell. That's quite a trick, yeah.
Speaker 3:But see, kids our age now, like saying that kids our age, but guys our age now. A lot of people have jobs where they can go back and buy those things that they grew up with, so that's why people put these prices out. We now have jobs. I mean, we make a living, we do this.
Speaker 3:People are like and that's stuff that people our age spend money on now people are willing to pay for nostalgia yes, like I was looking back at, I had a lance mountain skateboard, I had a tony hawk street, I had a ray barbie and these are the ones that I was looking. I wanted to put them in my basement, like you know, like a display right but the one of the lance mount was like 800. I was like hell no for a deck yeah for a deck. Nothing even on it. It'd just be like a deck sitting in my basement. I was like I'm not paying all that you were a spoiled kid, Matt yeah.
Speaker 3:Jesus, I worked a lot of jobs, man, I cut grass, I sold drugs, you smoked grass. Yeah right, I was doing a lot of shit man.
Speaker 1:Well, if we ever make money on the podcast, maybe we can hang a bike up here, or something. Like a nice diamond back, yeah, something like that. I thought you were going to say, buy some gas.
Speaker 4:Maybe we can get gas.
Speaker 3:Maybe could. Yeah, but uh, yeah, that was a fun one to cover for me. Like I said, I'm nostalgic on that. Shout out to my buddy jimmy for uh hitting me up with some fun facts and uh, it was rad. No, I enjoyed. I enjoyed actually going to see this movie in the theater. Like I was young again going to see a movie, excited about it, seeing it in the theater and then bringing it to the podcast yeah, for sure do we want to do the rating?
Speaker 1:yeah, I guess it's about that time. So we have what late fee return or burn that is correct, right yep, so I guess you want to let hawk lead off.
Speaker 2:Go ahead, yeah hawk. What do you got? What do you like?
Speaker 3:hawk's gonna say let's do something new yeah, I'm watching it and I'm taking it back, taking it back so that's not burning, return okay return it wants to go, I'll go I would watch it, call some friends over watch it again, maybe check it out the next morning and then take it back. I don't want the late fee.
Speaker 2:Absent the nostalgia aspect, I would burn this you burn it, oh dear god, only for look. If it's look back, then, though, remember so. So that's the thing. How do you rate this? I get it that we're supposed to rate it as if we were getting a vhs, right, but now am I supposed to rate it as if I'm 10 years old watching it?
Speaker 1:that's what I kind of did with first blood, the last one, like like back then I was going to return it, but now I would. I was late feeing it. I honestly, because it's my now I like appreciate it on a whole nother level.
Speaker 2:So so if I was 10 years old watching this movie back then, well, okay, I would return it, right, but now you're gonna burn it. I'm gonna burn the shit out of this thing well no
Speaker 4:10 year old, thanks for the memories. Well, I'm keeping it, my nine year old me, I'm taking it to neighbors. We're dueling vcrs I'm dubbing it.
Speaker 1:You're dubbing making a copy like I've been saying.
Speaker 3:My nine-year-old son saw it with me in the theater and I said what'd you think? He was like it was pretty exciting. He's like it was pretty cool movie okay, and he's nine right and he's just like into bikes a little bit, not really how we were. You know what I mean like he rides his bike from point a to point b right, but he's not like trying to run over any jumps or anything. But what did your you're? You're with your older son. What did he think of it?
Speaker 1:yeah, he was like it was good, he liked it. Okay, he appreciates like older cinema, like that, like he's in, like he can appreciate it a lot of the horror movies he likes, like this movie. But I told him I said ethan's gonna be kind of corny, yeah it's corny in a cool kind of way but uh, for me back then I'm late feeing it and now I'm returning it like I watched it and it was just cool for the nostalgia there it is, but it's worth laughlin alone yeah who was not ugly in this by no, my gosh she's not ugly no, she, she's a very good looking woman Very good looking.
Speaker 1:Rocket queen.
Speaker 3:Rocket queen yeah.
Speaker 1:It was a simultaneous oh you're a rocket queen. But yeah, hawk. Thanks again, man, for hanging out with us. It was good to have a class of 94 classmate in the house, oh yeah.
Speaker 4:Appreciate you guys. Thank you PS.
Speaker 2:Gentle reminder, since we're going back to nostalgia. We've known each other, all of us, you know, despite well, so like matt and I go back a little bit further, but basically we've all known each other about 33 and a half years, dear god yeah, hawk, I vividly remember.
Speaker 1:Uh, I think it was freshman year you had you lived in lingolstown road. On lingolstown road here's the square, correct? So it was your house and I think zap you said you were there too. He had like a party like over the weekend. I remember metallica, that album that just came out, the black album, that was like a big deal and I remember it's my birthday. Yeah, birthday, for sure yeah, now we met each other through football I met you in the eighth grade at the all-star game.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's right. Yeah, I forgot about that. Then we did meet before that.
Speaker 4:Man I met at weight training pre-ninth grade, Pre-ninth grade, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's right, we played on the.
Speaker 2:East.
Speaker 1:Shore.
Speaker 2:I still got that black jersey, the black and orange.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I still have that shit. You put it on. It's all tight now I know I like to dig my own.
Speaker 3:I was on vacation. That's why they took some other kid. You didn't make it. No, I was there, I made it, but we were at the shore. Seven sorrows man. We were at the shore, man.
Speaker 4:Eagles. We played for St Mags, st Mags yeah, we won that game. That's right, we did count. He came out. Dude had a mustache, my quarterback had a mustache.
Speaker 3:I remember we were weigh-ins. The one kid from East Shore had chest hair. I was like, how's this kid in seventh grade man, Come on. We didn't care, he was on our street. He's telling his kids to get back. He's like, hey man, get back.
Speaker 1:I remember we played East Shore down at City. Island and one car. God damn, you got a shoulder pads out of the back.
Speaker 3:That's funny time we're all riding like. Remember riding to practice like on your bike? Oh yeah, shoulder pads and helmet hanging off side. That was fun that was late 80s, but no kids, I don't see any kids doing that anymore.
Speaker 4:No, everybody's getting dropped off oh god, you couldn't do that to your kid. You'd be neglecting. What do you mean? You?
Speaker 3:can't provide your child. He's gonna be tired when he gets to practice.
Speaker 4:You can't do that Right.
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