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V.C.R. Presents: Mannequin (1987) – 80s Whimsy, Fantastical Romance, and Retail Nostalgia
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Ever wondered what it would be like if a mannequin came to life in the heart of an 80s department store? Join us on a whimsical journey back to 1987 as we reminisce about the charmingly oddball film "Mannequin." We’ll take you through the quirky adventures of Jonathan Switcher, played by Andrew McCarthy, and his enchanting muse Emmy, brought to life by Kim Cattrall. Listen in for personal anecdotes like that magical first viewing in a theater, and our humorous take on Jonathan's string of odd jobs and how they weave into the film’s narrative.
In this episode, we celebrate the cultural impact of "Mannequin," from its delightful soundtrack featuring Starship’s iconic hit "Nothing’s Gonna Stop Us Now," to its nostalgic depiction of 80s fashion and retail therapy at stores like John Wanamaker's and Boscov's. We dive into the fantastical romance at the heart of the story and compare it to other beloved fantasy comedies of the era, such as "Splash." Our conversation also brings back memories of shopping malls and the vibrant 80s brands that defined an era of bold style choices and unforgettable music.
Finally, we explore some fascinating behind-the-scenes trivia, imagining how the film might have looked with different casting choices like Michael J. Fox or Madonna. We pay tribute to Kim Cattrall’s dedication and discuss the clever use of stop-motion animation. Get ready for a heartfelt discussion on the Pygmalion myth inspiration behind the story, and revel with us in the nostalgia of 1987—a truly remarkable year for movies. This episode is packed with humor, personal stories, and a deep appreciation for one of the most unconventional gems of the late '80s.
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Thanks for tuning in to the Vintage Cinema Review On this week's episode. We're covering from 1987, mannequin.
Speaker 2:Grab your trench coats and dust off your boom boxes for an unforgettable soundtrack.
Speaker 3:Ooh, it's a Rotten Tomatoes gem from 1987, like Dave said, involving mannequins.
Speaker 1:Yeah, who knew Dahmer and Andrew McCarthy had something in common? Wow. Yeah, do you even know, yeah, so don't forget to leave us a five star rating on Spotify. On Apple, you can leave us a written review and sit back, relax and enjoy from 1987. Mannequin hey, this is Dave. Matt and Zap, and welcome to the Vintage Cinema Review where, every week, we review some of our favorite films from the past.
Speaker 3:Hey, there ain't no late fees here.
Speaker 2:Silence is golden and be kind Rewind.
Speaker 3:Oh, what is? Uh? What are you putting in the VCR there today? What's?
Speaker 1:that we got Manne mannequin 1987. 87.
Speaker 2:87. Mannequin, mannequin.
Speaker 3:Those are those things that like are at the mall, that just stand still.
Speaker 1:Pretty much.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll be the first one to qualify this. This was a fan request, absolutely, this was.
Speaker 3:Who was the fan?
Speaker 1:You know what? I deleted it off the list. Oh, big fan To protect the innocent. But there was a. You know this was tied with Young Frankenstein, so we just did them back to back.
Speaker 2:So this had some votes for sure it did and I, when we get to the end of it, I can understand why I can't. So for my perspective, for solely for purposes of doing this podcast, is the only reason I'd ever seen this movie so you didn't see it back in the day nope, oh wow there's
Speaker 1:some big names in this too, for being in what 87 yeah, it was uh definitely some big names in it, some good songs these were definitely yeah, big names at the time, for sure, yeah, so mannequin 1987. Release date to be exact february 13th 1987. I think you said what that that's President's Day.
Speaker 2:President's Day weekend.
Speaker 1:Weekend, so we'll get to that. Then Runtime on this an hour and 30 minutes and it was rated PG, which surprised me with the nudity in the beginning.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just a little bit of ta-ta.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess fake ones.
Speaker 3:A little bit of boobs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so this is directed by Michael Gutlib, written by Edward Rugoff and Michael Gutlib and produced by Art Levinson.
Speaker 3:A lot of odd names.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know Budget on this $7.9 million. What Box office? $42.7.
Speaker 2:Now there's a what.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So they spent $7, they made $42. Yeah, and I contributed to that. Juice is worth the squeeze $7.9. David, and I contributed to that. Juice is worth the squeeze 7.9. David, it's interesting that you say that you contributed to that. I got a fun fact on that one too.
Speaker 3:That's great to hear what contributions.
Speaker 1:I saw this in the theaters.
Speaker 2:That's so funny, dude.
Speaker 3:I did not see this in the theater. I did see it on a VHS tape.
Speaker 1:Filming locations on this. For now, we'll just leave it at pennsylvania. There we go, because there's going to be some spots that we'll get, but there's a lot.
Speaker 3:That's a just pa yeah just pennsylvania you know, that's all.
Speaker 1:I really saw what a great state.
Speaker 2:I'm sure there was sound stages here and there at the studio or whatever, but yeah, for sure, the lion's share, the lion's share of the filming was in pennsylvania, pennsylvania, yeah.
Speaker 1:So that's all that for my fun stuff. I'll turn it over to Zap for the cast.
Speaker 2:All right Now. We were talking some big names, so here comes some big names. The cast of Mannequin includes, but is not limited to, andrew McCarthy as Jonathan Switcher, kim Cattrall as Emma, emmy Hessire, estelle Getty as Claire Timken, james Spader as Mr Richards, GW Bailey as Captain Felix Maxwell, meshach Taylor as Hollywood Montrose, carol Davis as Roxy Shield, steve Vinovich as BJ Wirt, christopher Maher as Armand and Andrew Hill Newman as the compactor room janitor that guy at the very end.
Speaker 1:Guy at the very end.
Speaker 2:Yeah, who's hoping and praying for a mannequin of his own?
Speaker 1:So I guess that's it for the cast. We'll turn it over to Matt for a brief synopsis.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if we can get through it here. When shy young Jonathan sculpted his mannequin masterpiece, he gave her all the attributes of the girl of his dreams. But even Jonathan's wildest dreams couldn't prepare him for what happens when his store window fantasy becomes a living, breathing, totally enchanting young lady. Enchanting young lady. Andrew McCarthy from Pretty in Pink stars as down-and-out artist who creates and falls in love with a department store mannequin who becomes very much real life as a vivacious Emma Kim Cattrall from Police Academy and Big Trouble in Little China. But soon both Jonathan and his statuesque lady find themselves caught in the crossfire between two battling store owners. And the bad guys will go through any length, even mannequin napping, to take advantage of Jonathan's almost magical artistic talents. It's a wildly outrageous and romantic fantasy in this hilarious tradition of Splash.
Speaker 1:Oh, splash, I forgot about that. Ooh, tom Hanks, we should definitely do Splash we should definitely do that.
Speaker 2:That was a great one, man, bocce balls.
Speaker 3:Daryl Hannah, right yeah. I don't think there's enough Daryl Hannah in the world today.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so yeah. Mannequin 1987. I did see this in the theater. Quick story before we get into it Sure, I went and saw it and I remember a girl. It was like my girlfriend.
Speaker 3:I'm 11 years old at the time she was coming, I know right, she was coming out of the theater of young love is for sure.
Speaker 1:I was going in I think it was with my mom and maybe my aunt, my cousins, I don't know and uh, she's like, oh, I just saw a mannequin. I was on my way in and I was like, oh, was it good? She's like, yeah, it's really, really good. She's like we're actually walking into this next theater to watch a movie, another movie, and I was like and in my head I remembered it as she devil the movie she was going to see because of the poster and stuff is on on the wall. I went and looked, she doubled and come out to 1989. It was actually a movie called a hunk and in my head I remembered it as she devil. But the movie hunk had on the cover a girl holding a pitchfork and then this guy he was a nerd that turned into a hunk.
Speaker 3:Well, imagine that.
Speaker 1:Right. So she was doing one of them deals where you pay for one movie and then you just walk into the All day.
Speaker 2:You're just spending your whole day in the theater.
Speaker 1:Right. So that was my memory of Mannequin, and I remember liking the movie a lot when I saw it at 11 years old, and this is only the second time that.
Speaker 3:I've seen it. That's why you were thinking She-De poster. There's a lady with the, with the pitchfork. Yeah, yeah, matt just pulled it up. And is that a?
Speaker 2:pa license plate. I think it is yeah, oh, no, it's california maybe. Yeah, oh, california, hunk, yeah, but uh, I don't think hunk made too much money. No, no, it might have made as much money as the movie I went to see president's day weekend. Oh yeah, 1987. So my little quick, little fun fact so this movie opened on president's day, as we said, as did over the top great movie, fantastic movie with sylvester stallone, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Of course, though mannequin did better oh, for real in the box, oh my god, 100, damn 100 in fact.
Speaker 2:That's blasphemy in, in fact, over the top was upside down relative to the money spent. The juice was not worth the squeeze for over the top. That shocks me that that was a box office bomb. I think they spent 13 and they only made six or seven like I would think my dad went to see that we went saw mannequin yeah or something like that, you know still.
Speaker 3:Uh, you're my son now you got a little how the arm wrestle. You know I'm gonna drive a big truck what was that?
Speaker 1:What was that guy's name? Hawk, or something Correct.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah, he's badass. I like how he turned his hat backwards and he got stronger. That was the switch. That's what you do you do that for the podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I do. He's got his hat back.
Speaker 3:I'm over the top. You are I get amazing when? I turn Absolutely over the top. Thank you, thank you so much. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1:So man again, why don't we steer through it?
Speaker 2:Let's steer through this. Let's elaborate on Matt's synopsis. All right, our story kicks off in ancient Egypt right after lunch. Right after lunch, they actually say that. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's written on the first screen Ancient Egypt right after lunch, yep, with Emma, emmy Hessire, who's praying to the gods for refuge from a soon-to-be arranged marriage. The earth rumbles and in a flash she disappears. Fast forward to 1987, where we meet Jonathan Switcher, a down-on-his-luck artist working odd jobs to make ends meet. Jonathan's imagination and perfectionism often lead him to get fired from his jobs, including a job as a mannequin sculptor where he'd crafted his masterpiece, a perfect female mannequin. Losing job after job, jonathan lands a gig at a big department store named Prince and Company after unwittingly saving the life of its owner, claire Timken. Prince and Company might be on financially shaky ground, but I have a feeling that Jonathan will bring a spark of light into this fading fashion franchise. And what's this? His prized mannequin, his masterpiece, is in their display window. Good for her, it's got to be fake. Good forzed mannequin, his masterpiece is in their display window.
Speaker 1:Good for her.
Speaker 3:It's got to be faked. Good for that mannequin.
Speaker 2:Dude. He lost his job as the mannequin sculptor and then he gets a job at the place that found his mannequin.
Speaker 3:Is that a real life job, a mannequin sculptor? Somebody has to.
Speaker 1:I mean, all he was doing is putting the pieces on. Yeah, he's making the model. It was like a Lego. So in the beginning, like Now, wait a second.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was putting the pieces on, but he had to sculpt the mannequin. Oh, he actually made that Shit, yeah.
Speaker 1:I didn't know, he sculpted the. I thought, he was just like they had the parts there and he's putting it together. I'm like that's easy yeah.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Let me put this leg so that first part in in egypt. Maybe that wasn't filmed in pa, I don't know, probably not, maybe on a soundstage, possibly, or in egypt. But let's talk about the song.
Speaker 3:I'm sure they flew out there just for that part got to egypt down in one of the? Uh yeah, I doubt it well, maybe that was part of the budget 7.9 million.
Speaker 1:Well, to get that money to get that money back got to be authentic 1987 7.9 million.
Speaker 3:what is that? Today is that probably twice as much? Okay, 14, 14, yeah, 15 million.
Speaker 1:Let's just call it so that beginning scene with egypt and then to go into the animation, like we see in a lot of wait.
Speaker 2:I'm wrong, it's three times as much, so 21 million. Wow, yeah, yeah, because well, we did that thing with the, the commercial for the all you could eat buffet at the red lobster at red lobster. So they had an all-you-can-eat seafood buffet and that was $19.84. Almost $7. So that was almost $7, and in today's dollars it's $21. So okay, almost three times as much from 1987 to now.
Speaker 1:So that beginning scene where they show the animation and stuff reminded me of a few movies back. My wife actually referenced them One Christmas Vacation, Christmas Vacation.
Speaker 3:Better Off Dead.
Speaker 1:Better Off Dead was christmas vacation off dead was a good one with the cute and fuzzy bunnies yeah, they do, and I think that's a cool start to a movie. It kind of lays out the movie in animation. And then that was a cool song playing and we talked about that. It was belinda carlisle in your wildest dreams, not the go-go's, not the go-go's, yeah. But as soon as I heard the song it sparked the memory. I'm like I remember this song. Sure, I remember the beginning. So. And then in the beginning he's doing these different odd jobs like you were talking about.
Speaker 2:There was one where he was like blowing up balloons at a kid's birthday man just trying to make a living dude's trying to make balloon puppets and this jack off spoiled kid says no, I don't want the balloon puppet, I want the big ass balloon.
Speaker 1:That's advertising the name of your business right and the kid takes the dad's pissed at him and then he's pruning bushes and doing stuff like that. Yep, so do you think that was the one scene where they filmed?
Speaker 2:That could have been. Yeah, that could have been the scene that was filmed at the Hershey Gardens.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I saw that. Oh, with the trees. Yep, yeah, I saw that. That's the scene. Maybe they're at Longwood Gardens. They were outside Philly.
Speaker 2:Oh well, were they? They were in lots of places. Yeah, true.
Speaker 3:Lots of places. Hershey Gardens is a nice trip. Yeah, it is cool. I mean recently we had our moms on. It's a nice place. The moms can go walking there. It's very nice If they're into walking. Yeah, tranquil.
Speaker 1:How about the job at the pizza?
Speaker 3:shop.
Speaker 1:The job at the pizza shop Napoli's Pizza Correct, so this guy spends like an hour making a pizza?
Speaker 2:Yeah, how do you? Because he's a sculptor, he's a perfectionist. Yeah, and look, are you already going to tell me? I know it. I collect my check and get the hell out.
Speaker 1:Yep, get out of here.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow, the almost death of uh estelle getty claire getty, I mean dude, she almost got hit by the sign from her own uh, her own business 100 year anniversary yeah, she's from the golden girls fame estelle getty. Interestingly enough, she was the youngest cast member, yes, and yet played the oldest broad what was her name in uh?
Speaker 1:golden girls sofia sofia, that's what it was.
Speaker 3:She was the mom Yep. She was kind of into like sexy time too.
Speaker 2:That was Blanche? Oh, that was definitely Blanche, and Blanche was a whore, poor Blanche.
Speaker 3:Poor Blanche.
Speaker 2:Dude, she was absolutely a Russian, or not Russian?
Speaker 3:Russian Goddamn.
Speaker 2:Russians Sneaky fucking Russians.
Speaker 2:No she was a Southern Belle hooker. No doubt Alright Little doesathan know that mannequin he created has a magical secret. When she's alone with him, she comes to life. Indeed, the mannequin possesses the spirit of emmy. As it turns out, she's lived on for centuries as the muse and inspiration for other artists, all the while waiting for true love to break the spell. From the moment she comes to life, emmy and Jonathan form a connection. Jonathan is startled at first, but quickly becomes enchanted by her spirit and infectious energy. Hollywood Montrose, jonathan's flamboyant co-worker and window dresser extraordinaire, becomes an ally to him and Emmy, adding even more rainbows to the already colorful story. That was great.
Speaker 2:Yeah, more rainbows, that was for his gayness.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:To blave, to blave. To blave, jonathan and Emmy's chemistry sizzles on screen as they embark on a series of wild and unforgettable escapades around the department store and across the city, all set to a fantastic fashion, flashing 80s montage.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hollywood was the one character that I remember as soon as he came on screen. I remember back then like it was like one of my favorite parts of the movie because it just the sunglasses he would wear everything was so over the top 80s.
Speaker 3:I thought he was the saxophonist for springsteen he does look like him, but that's not right. Is that him or hollywood?
Speaker 2:he looks like him okay, he was one of the three most important people in the world in Bill and Ted's excellent adventure.
Speaker 3:Oh was that him?
Speaker 2:Was that really him? No, it wasn't him. Yes, it was not him.
Speaker 1:Not the same. No, that's the you're right.
Speaker 2:That was the band guy. That's correct.
Speaker 1:He was in that. I remember those license plates. You've got a friend in Pennsylvania. That was back when we had that on the plates.
Speaker 2:I still have two of those actually, oh for real On your car, Not on the car Off the car, but I still have the plates. You've got a friend in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1:One other thing I noticed in this, and I don't know if people still do this on cabs, like back then in the 80s. They had ads on the roof. Sure, and they don't do that anymore, do they? They have ads on Root. You know what I'm talking about, you definitely don't see them as much.
Speaker 3:I mean here, where we live. I don't think we've seen too many cabs, True.
Speaker 1:It was kind of hard to get a cab during our day.
Speaker 3:And if we were in Harrisburg, to get a cab home would be a feat.
Speaker 1:There's probably only like three. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3:I think they still do cabs a lot in New York, don't they?
Speaker 1:Isn't that?
Speaker 3:still a. Thing 100%.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cabs are definitely still a thing. Cabs are definitely still a thing in Harrisburg, by the way, it's just they're not circling around. You have to call one.
Speaker 3:Then that would be an Uber, though not a cab.
Speaker 1:You can company.
Speaker 2:I promise you there is a cab company in harrisburg. Okay, I have to try that, that is. In addition, matt, you are right to uber lyft you name. Yes, these montage of scenes in this is great, like where these these two are. Just it's a few seconds. They're all.
Speaker 3:They're wearing this outfit, then a few seconds of them wearing dressing up and doing like cool, like moves and stuff like dance moves that's your favorite the montage yes, I love montages, matt. I thought of there's not enough in life this was montage, laden there's a lot of it on my when I die.
Speaker 3:I was telling my wife this like I want like a band to come in and they'll play like push it by salt and pepper, right. But but then I went on the screen like I want a montage of of my life going by. Yeah, like going by like three minutes, my whole life in three minutes, there, watch it to push it and then you're gonna have it to push it the song yeah, like just because I thought it'd be funny you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:I didn't know.
Speaker 3:There was like no, there's no meaning, just just I think it'd be funny to like a three minute montage for my life you can do it.
Speaker 2:You're gonna gonna go. Go with a smile.
Speaker 3:Yeah, go with a smile Like have fun, that whole death thing where everybody's all sad and shit.
Speaker 2:Go with a smile. Speaking of smile, I was smile laden through this movie. I smiled a great deal.
Speaker 1:It was very nostalgic.
Speaker 3:Very nostalgic. It's a smirky movie.
Speaker 1:Like I said, I like the outfits and stuff and the montages and that opulence of those that's a zap word of the stores like the Boscovs and that one that she worked at, that Princeton company. So that was what Wanamakers, or something.
Speaker 3:Boscovs, is that what you?
Speaker 1:mean. Well, illustra was the, boscoous was the boss, oh, but okay. The one where Estelle Getty was at was uh, Wanamakers, Wanamakers. And it was so over the top with just the. It looked like a I don't even know, like it's just a big fancy.
Speaker 3:You don't even know, my mom would get my slacks at John Wanamakers.
Speaker 2:That was a damn place to go. That was a high.
Speaker 1:That's got some filmmakers, that's that new mexico money they had the polo and all that shit and you know you're not getting out of james way.
Speaker 2:No, jonathan and emmy's relationship is not only romantic but also creatively explosive. The two go on to design window displays that are so jaw-dropping they capture the imagination of every passerby and turn the struggling store into a retail sensation. From roller skating through the store aisles to creating whimsical, larger-than-life displays, their adventures are set against a backdrop of quintessential 80s fashion and music. Romantic moments set to synth-pop, anth anthems, starlet nights in the mannequin workshop and boombox fueled dance sequences make you wish you were back in 1987, sporting neon leg warmers and snapping polaroids. The comedy is slapstick, but the humor and heartwarming interactions, all wrapped up in a neon glow that only the 80s could provide, make jonathan and emmy a match made by the gods yeah, they're always in the sporting goods section and all these 80s movies, half of this movie like always, like swinging a baseball bat or something this movie was a montage.
Speaker 2:It was the the montage when they first meet. It's a montage as they're now making. You know, jonathan is becoming more successful and more relied upon for making these magical window displays. It's like damn. We you know, hiring this guy brought life back into Princeton. Company Like this is a great thing there's.
Speaker 3:No, yeah, there's no problem with that. Like there, there should be more montages than movies. Yeah, every movie Montage.
Speaker 1:Walk back up too. Yeah, and then they had the um. It's true, it's absolutely true. Then they had the um. That one layout was pretty sweet for the tennis.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I think it was a more like the tennis outfits.
Speaker 2:It was magical she was sitting on top as the as the judge yes and the the ball was going, but it was a great great scene.
Speaker 1:It was in the uh, I think it was for eyes, eyed, or lacoste or lacoste.
Speaker 2:Oh, I thought of you. I was um, where I forget I was at recently, but I went to a store and they had, uh, lacoste sneakers in it oh, for real, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I had a pair a few years ago and they also had dude. Hey dudes k swiss. Oh yeah, I remember those. Remember when kenny powers did the k swiss commercials a few years back. Kenny powers, I forgot about that.
Speaker 2:Indeed, yeah, k swiss, he's the best you guys remember. Oh yeah, I remember those.
Speaker 3:Remember when Kenny Powers did the K-Swiss commercials a few years back. Oh, kenny Powers, I forgot about that. Indeed, yeah, k-swiss, he's the best.
Speaker 1:You guys remember British Knights.
Speaker 3:Of course. Oh yeah, bks man. But I remember like right in high school, like you were cool. If you like, lottos.
Speaker 2:You guys remember Lottos seventh or eighth grade tree thorns, lottos uh la casportive uh yeah, dress funky fresh my lecox sportif, already jumpsuits, they were jumpsuits.
Speaker 3:Uh, actually a lecox sportif. I was looking that up online for like a suit, you know, like adidas jumpsuits, sergio ticchini, yeah, but I think it lecox like 180 bucks for like a sweatshirt I want to do a podcast cover for us wearing the gentleman jumpsuits plaid correct, yeah, for sure, that would be like a sweatshirt.
Speaker 1:I want to do a podcast cover for us wearing the gentleman jumpsuits plaid.
Speaker 3:Correct, yeah, for sure that would be like a cool look. Yeah, it would.
Speaker 1:But yeah, the eighties had a lot of cool fashion and stuff in this movie Definitely highlighted this movie showcased it.
Speaker 3:I like the and I mean hardcore big time. I like the broad shoulder suit jackets, oh yeah shoulder suit jackets, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:How about our?
Speaker 2:boy james spader in this. Like I've never seen spader as like a dork.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was definitely a douchey dork in this one because you always thought he was like stud and like that he's always yeah he's always cool and like everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they made him out to be like a dork in this well in stargate.
Speaker 2:He was dorky to start. He saved the day at the end.
Speaker 1:I didn't see. You've never seen stargate.
Speaker 2:No, dude, that's good, that's good, but Spader's like oh, what a great tie-in that involves him going to ancient Egypt, but across the galaxy. Oh shit, I got to check that out. I dig that. Don't sleep on that man, it's good.
Speaker 3:It's really good. Spader's like cool as shit.
Speaker 2:And zero less than zero. Yes, he was great dude spader was.
Speaker 1:Spader was also good in wall street, a movie oh yeah yeah an 80s gem with uh spader that probably a lot of people haven't seen. It's called tough turf.
Speaker 3:Nope, never saw it awesome, awesome movie. Did you ever see a spader in the secretary?
Speaker 2:yes, uh, yes, with maggie, oh great movie.
Speaker 3:He's just like can we do that one or that's too soon, too soon I could probably be done.
Speaker 2:Maybe it's on it's. We're putting that down at the list yeah, sound the list.
Speaker 3:Maggie gyllenhaal spader excellent.
Speaker 1:Oh, how about uh captain harris from uh police academy correct?
Speaker 3:that's right. Yeah, he was the uh the mall cop yeah, mall cop.
Speaker 2:Fun fact, I have never seen police academy. You are out of your cabeza I cannot believe that. Oh, we'll go into Cabeza. See you in West Mesa. I have never seen any police academies. So that Michael Winslow, with the I only ever saw him in Spaceballs.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:Not to be confused with Winslow and the creeps. Michael Winslow, that was the guy from Family Matters.
Speaker 1:Yeah, carl Winslow. Hey big guy so yeah, uh, harris from police academy was the night security, the inept night security guy.
Speaker 2:Well, speaking of him, every great story needs a villain, and mannequin doesn't break that tradition. Mr richards is a conniving executive at prince and Company who seems to be doing his best at making the store fail. He's just a dick. He's joined by a sniveling sidekick, armand, who has the hots for Jonathan's ex-girlfriend, roxy Shield. Roxy and Armand work at Illustra Department Store, a fierce competitor of Prince and Company, with the detestable BJ Wirt as its chief executive. Unbeknownst to Prince Company, mr Richards, the Prince Company executive, is in cahoots with BJ Wirt to bring Prince Company down. Desperate to uncover the secret behind Jonathan's miraculous window displays, roxy and Armand are determined to out Jonathan and put an end to the mannequin madness. Whether they're planting hidden cameras, sneaking around in ridiculous disguises or engaging in frantic chases through the store, roxy and Armand's efforts know no limits. Add to that a security guard straight from police academy and the odds don't look good for poor jonathan and emmy yeah, that armand.
Speaker 1:It's just the 80s stereotype of any like italian or 100 percent always. I don't think they can do that anymore like that's such a stereotype it's fine, it's great, it's perfect.
Speaker 1:It's good comedy. I know this guy's just like horny all the time all the time and his libido is ridiculous. Yeah, he reminds me of uh from from. Uh, what was the one with Patrick Dempsey? The pizza, you know, uh extra anchovies. Oh, if you order extra anchovies, that means the women are calling for uh, so there's an Italian dude that works with him and rides a moped around Right.
Speaker 3:I need you to take over for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's the same way. He's like chasing his mom around, like but I love you, no, you don't. And he's chasing the mom.
Speaker 3:What are you doing?
Speaker 1:And constantly like trying to get laid. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:These two definitely hit the slapstick comedy element of this movie where it's you've seen countless examples of it before just the bad guy trying to get the good guy, just constantly chasing, constantly chasing, not making it, not making it. It's like the detective going after the pink panther, it's like the coyote chasing the roadrunner. It's just they they'll never get it. They'll never get it. But the antics is our, they're antics like they're, they're slapstick comedy I was trying to think of what other movie.
Speaker 1:There was. Another movie, maybe more than one, I'm sure where. In this movie she's doing all the work, she's the inspiration frame, but she's laying out all these great ideas.
Speaker 3:She's putting the ideas up for the displays and he yeah he's getting the credit for it.
Speaker 1:So there was another movie like that, where you're not talking like working girl where no, I feel like it was something more mainstream. Maybe that there's been other movies like that, where there's somebody behind the scenes sure 100, who was?
Speaker 3:who was in working girl that was um melanie.
Speaker 2:Melanie griffith, harrison ford, sigourney weaver oh, that's right.
Speaker 3:Sigourney weaver, wasn't that she was the bad guy?
Speaker 1:I'm just trying to think of movies where, like, somebody's getting credited for being good at something and they're doing this and that, and meanwhile it's somebody somebody else is taking the credit.
Speaker 2:Like somebody, somebody's the muse, I'm sorry. Somebody's doing the work.
Speaker 1:doing the work and they're getting all the credit for it. And I couldn't think off the top of my head last night. I'm like what is this Like? This is always like, and then always at the end, always at the end, like the person ends up you can do it on your own, like, you don't need me and they end up. And they end up like disappearing, yeah and then, and then like kind of like.
Speaker 1:Teen Wolf like yeah, right he was good as the the wolf, and then at the end he's like I'm not gonna be the wolf for this game and they win in the end. We're gonna win in the end, right, right right, but I just was thinking, trying to think of other movies like that. I guess team wolf would be kind of like that, where the wolf was giving him the power to be good at basketball and he didn't really need it, but deep inside.
Speaker 2:So you're saying the mannequin has given him the ability well, the mannequin was actually doing all the.
Speaker 1:She's the one that's coming up with the ideas, correct, sure? So she's the one that laid out the tennis thing and then he got credit for it. She's the one that laid out the. The photographer, yeah, and uh, you know he. Meanwhile these people are like wow, you did awesome. He's like, well, I don't know if I can do it again that was good.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly, that's funny. Like that whole department store, like window scene. It's not even a thing anymore, unless you go to like new york maybe correct, yeah, but like um, they don't have that. It's not a thing anymore. Like walking through your like local town in your square and seeing these window displays like I want to go in there and buy that this made me sad watching this, because malls are dying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, they had. Malls are done.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a shame I miss them like the brick and mortar is like a flower misses the sun right, I thought you meant, like the desert needs the rain, eurythmics no.
Speaker 3:I think, that was a song from. I think it's funny. I remember going to a dance with my cousin Brian. It was, I say, public school dance because I went to private school my whole life, but it was a CD, I think a ninth grade dance. I remember like we were walking in I had like this shirt on it had like polka dots, and we walked in and the song that was playing was like and I miss you, like the desert, miss the rain you guys remember that song, I remember that song and I miss you, and then we were walking like we thought we were all cool.
Speaker 3:We were like, yeah, what's up.
Speaker 2:I'm almost positive. That's the Eury it might be yeah. You think Okay.
Speaker 1:Well we'll get there. We'll get there, Lennox. I think All right.
Speaker 2:Well, as the stakes heightened, so does the tension. The department store becomes a battleground of love and magic. The villains escalate their efforts to expose Emmy and Jonathan, leading to a thrilling night and a high speed chase through the glitzy aisles. Jonathan and Emmy try to outwit the villains, all the while keeping her secret safe. In the pulse-pounding climax, emmy, along with all of the other mannequins, are placed on the moving conveyor belt of the store's trash compactor.
Speaker 1:I was getting scared during this one Seemingly destined for destruction.
Speaker 2:Never fear, jonathan risks life and limb to save Emmy. And once his true love for her manifests itself, emmy comes to life Permanently. And once his true love for her manifests itself, emmy comes to life permanently. True love has in fact broken the spell and our stories de no more.
Speaker 1:Ends with.
Speaker 2:Jonathan and Emmy getting married in the Prince and Company storefront window, with Hollywood Montrose as Jonathan's best man and Claire Timken as the maid of honor.
Speaker 1:And that great song playing.
Speaker 2:Great song, that's right, it's a great song. Starship, starship, enterprise, nothing's going to stop us now, yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, that song, the Desert Mystery, that was everything but the girl.
Speaker 1:That's the name of the group, yeah 1990.
Speaker 3:That's stupid.
Speaker 1:I would have never guessed that, never even heard of that.
Speaker 2:That's a beat.
Speaker 1:So this movie too had me thinking about our boy Dahmer, like I wonder if he went and saw this.
Speaker 3:What dating?
Speaker 1:mannequins. Well, remember he was into the mannequins.
Speaker 3:Remember that.
Speaker 1:He stole one and brought it home.
Speaker 2:So I wonder if he went and saw a mannequin and was like, let me try that. Could be.
Speaker 1:Put this mannequin torso, that's correct.
Speaker 2:Legs got in the way.
Speaker 1:Right, because that guy at the end, the janitor or whatever, he was trying to get mannequins to come back. He's the dommer. Yeah, he's the dommer, he would be the dommer.
Speaker 2:But this was fun, man, this was really fun. This is the simplest, but I mean all of the action.
Speaker 3:That's like quintessential 80s, though, and the climax, that's perfect.
Speaker 2:The denouement and all of that stuff. It's just so perfect. How do you say that again? Denouement.
Speaker 1:Denouement Wow.
Speaker 2:Denouement, matt, how did we go to the same high school and you don't know what that word is.
Speaker 3:Denouement, the denouement is the French for For the post-climax.
Speaker 2:It's the end, end, end.
Speaker 1:It's done yeah.
Speaker 2:That's correct.
Speaker 3:That's good, I like that the cigarette. The cigarette Did you?
Speaker 1:notice the couple things in here the Huffy Sigma, the bike, oh shit, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:So they were driving around the department store there.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, have one of those. I had no hell. No, I wish I had a sigma if I thought you had the one with the hub, the hubs on and shit. So I definitely.
Speaker 2:Thank you for bringing that up. I want to say that, ma correct, mine was all with, mine was all with aftermarket parts. So yours like man-made, correct, but dude, that sigma was banging and those wheel covers dude. I remember those so well yeah, the huffy sigma.
Speaker 1:I saw that 99. I looked up when they came out.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. That's $300 in today's dollars. Wow.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but your parents weren't putting out $99 for a bike.
Speaker 1:Well compared to like a GT and all them other ones, that was a bargain back, then you know what I'm saying Stu. Thompson was a bargain too. Yeah, they were always priced a little less. But I saw that and I thought I was thinking, for some reason you had the Sigma.
Speaker 2:So I had a Huffy, there is no doubt, but it was. The Huffy beat lame bottom of the barrel stripped down model, so just a Huffy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was just called Huffy.
Speaker 2:Just a.
Speaker 3:Huffy.
Speaker 1:And then there was a scene where they were driving. He was riding his motorcycle.
Speaker 3:There's a Sigma right there.
Speaker 1:That's the one Yep that was in the movie motorcycle with the mannequin on the back and they did a jump and you could totally tell well, it felt way off. Well that, and I remember that. And then the stunt dude, like it's not andrew mccarthy, you can tell his face and shit, like they screwed up on that.
Speaker 1:And another thing zap you'll. You'll like this because the money aspect. You can tell us what this equates to. So the one scene where near the end, where he goes into, uh, illustra, and they're like we'll hire you like 55, 60 000 a year, like whatever you want like, and this is in 1987 so you're talking about a buck 50, buck 75 a year. Today's looking at yep that's good money.
Speaker 3:To put mannequins today is a good money yeah, that's killer money.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:It just got me to thinking I'm like, oh, that's for being a non-educated dude that's going to be working on mannequins or display not even mannequins, just displays. That's pretty good money.
Speaker 1:And then the other thing I saw in the Boscovs, because you could tell when they were in Illustra is when they would show Boscovs or Camp Hill and they had a big neon sign for records.
Speaker 2:Yes, on the wall, correct?
Speaker 1:They had a record section Correct, that's awesome.
Speaker 3:They could bring that back. What I, what I do miss about um the 80s, the filmmaking, doing these vintage cinema reviews is the stunts like when you see the stuntman doing yeah completely different looking build completely different. Looking like body, like they throw a wig on some dude. That's like 220 pounds.
Speaker 2:We saw that in yeah, where they had a man wearing a completely black mask playing the part of the chick, or your Freddy Krueger.
Speaker 1:300 pounds, yeah, 300 pound.
Speaker 3:Freddy Krueger just burning. But yeah, like Hollywood has done a much better job. But I still like that retro feel of the 80s stunts. Yeah, they need to bring that back. It's Hollywood, it's the best man. Bring it 80s stunts yeah they need to bring that back it's hollywood's man, bring it back.
Speaker 2:It would be the stunt people we would have to play us yes yeah, I never tire of this part. So, since we've been talking about it, so the scenes of prince and company, that's the you know the good guy store, that was filmed in the watermakers department store in philadelphia. So that store, which is now a macy's and is riddled with crime, riddled, riddled. It's absolutely dude that, that macy's downtown. It is awful and that's, in my opinion, thanks primarily to philadelphia's abhorrent district attorney, larry krasner, is that?
Speaker 1:why they call them macy's.
Speaker 2:You got to bring mace yeah, that city's all jacked up anymore, but there was I. I really did like that, having spent as much time as I did in in philly for you know my professional employ loved, loved, loved. Watching that motorcycle and or cars or anything driving around philly in the 80s, like that was. That was just cool to see. It was the city part so rocky was. From south philly, this was just you know downtown philly. Just was just you know downtown philly.
Speaker 2:Just seeing that driving around and stuff was awesome also brought back memories and stuff loved that the in fact that they did use the wanamakers in philly, because that wanamakers in philly has this pipe organ in it, which is true, that was it was featured in the movie, at least in one of the scenes where he's playing the, the organ, she's dancing around or doing whatever, and one of the montages. That organ, I think, is like one of the biggest in the United States, oh, I believe, if I'm not mistaken. Wow, that is a fun fact.
Speaker 3:It was crazy.
Speaker 1:What'd you got, Matt?
Speaker 3:Oh no, I'm just, I'm listening to you guys Go ahead. Yeah, boscov's in Harrisburg, fun fact. Camp Hill actually oh Camp Hill, yeah South 32nd.
Speaker 1:Street.
Speaker 2:That was illustrious. It was filmed at Boscov's department store, at the Camp Hill Mall, that's in Camp Hill, pennsylvania.
Speaker 1:We had our Boscovs on the East Shore at that time too, correct.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to think so that would be in Colonial Park in the 80s.
Speaker 1:I think it was there.
Speaker 2:Maybe, maybe it might have just been built, maybe they, I don't know. So that would have.
Speaker 1:And that was a colonial park? No. Or was that the harrisburg mall?
Speaker 2:no, it was a colonial park, then yes, it absolutely was, absolutely 100 was did you?
Speaker 1:notice uh, andrew mccarthy wore bowling shoes through the whole movie.
Speaker 3:Yes, those were like a fashion statement. I remember early, early 90s. Remember the bowling shirts and the shoes and the shoes. You don't remember that people would steal bowling shoes I remember the bowling shirts, but not the shoes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the shoes are kind of cool so I thought he wore those shoes to make like a statement, or like a subtlety statement, that he was a clown, like I thought they were clown shoes. Oh, I'm just a clown I'm just working for, for whatever kind of nickels and dimes I can make. I'm just somebody else's clown to make people clowning around subliminal subliminal no, I, I do have that uh the uh.
Speaker 3:Carl gottlieb, who was the uh, who was gottlieb's brother, was the um.
Speaker 1:He wrote the screenplay for jaws, which was a good good yeah, we'll definitely do jaws one of these days, by the way great movie that's a must, that's absolutely a must so the director got the idea from the movie by walking around a store window and saw a mannequin and he thought it was moving by itself like visual. You know what I mean. That's a good display he's probably on something you know what I mean. Who knows could be, but uh, he realized it was just an illusion just by the lights and the shadows and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:And then he started thinking, whatever, what would happen if it really would come to life? And that's when he came up the idea for the movie, I guess well, it worked.
Speaker 2:I mean again you spend seven, you make 40, some that's, that's a good, good money I know there was a mannequin too.
Speaker 3:I don't know too much about that electric boogaloo, no, that was uh breaking two. But no, there was a mannequin too. I don't even know who was in it, I don't even even know, I can tell you, but I seen it when I was researching for this movie.
Speaker 2:They said Mannequin 2. So Mannequin 2 on the move starred Christy Swanson who was. Ps hot as hell. Yes, christy Swanson's good looking. In my professional opinion, I think her hottest role was as Christy Boner from Dude Where's my Car? Dude, where's my Car?
Speaker 1:Yeah dude, where's my car? Dude, where's my car. Yeah, how about some coulda shouldas? You want to hear some?
Speaker 3:I do. Yes, I like those.
Speaker 1:I do so. Michael J Fox initially considered for the role of Jonathan Switcher, but turned it down due to scheduling conflicts.
Speaker 2:He would have been just as good.
Speaker 3:Yep, you know your career is awesome when you're just like I'd like to hop in that other stuff going on right now he played a.
Speaker 2:You know, as you see andrew mccarthy running around and doing all his crazy mad tactic or mad whatever, not mad libs, uh, just having fun running around being zany right um, that was. It reminds me of michael j fox from the secret of my success yeah, yeah, he could have definitely pulled that off for sure um.
Speaker 1:Jody foster was considered for the role of emmy. John cer was another candidate.
Speaker 3:I can see John Cryer. He was a big 80s movie guy.
Speaker 1:Here's one. Madonna was considered for the role of Emmy.
Speaker 2:That does not surprise me.
Speaker 1:Robert Downey Jr for Jonathan Switcher, which at that time he was you know. I think he was still relevant at that time. I remember he had that downtime where he wasn't doing anything before Iron man. I mean, it was for years and years and years.
Speaker 2:So this is mid to late 80s. Robert Downey Jr was definitely doing stuff, for sure. Like he would have just Drugs Well, yeah, but he would have just finished back to school, right.
Speaker 1:And then Molly Ringwald, Ally Sheedy, again for Emmy.
Speaker 2:All Brad Pack stuff. Yeah, and then John Cusack for Jonathan.
Speaker 1:So those are the main ones. I guess were they, and who knows how accurate these are, it's fun to think about.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, yeah. Poor Kim Cattrall spent six weeks posing for the sculptor who made her mannequin. This is just sitting still, so somebody can sculpt a mannequin that looks like you, I think that was too much.
Speaker 3:They could have just used a mannequin.
Speaker 2:That seems like too deep into the work of uh, the mannequin movie, the mega look with like five.
Speaker 3:How many montages were in?
Speaker 2:this movie. At least two, but they know three, three, definitely three, and they were lengthy bruh, you're talking like three minute montages yeah to the whole song. It's like the beginning of rad. Yeah, right, the whole song I got that.
Speaker 3:uh. Kim cattrall was 30 when this movie was filmed 30 years old, yes, and McCarthy was only 24. Dang.
Speaker 1:She looked good.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she looks real. So how old was she in Sex and the City? She got to be like 78 years old. Yeah, dude.
Speaker 2:PS. So since this is the first time I had in only recent days, the first time I'd I'd ever seen mannequin, I think my first real exposure to kim cattrall was sex in the city and sorry that role spoiled me on. Turned you off to her completely. Turned me off to her I. I don't it's like blanche devereaux from the golden girls. We were talking about it I don't consider a whore she's a whore and yes, kim cattrall and sex in the city was a fucking whore in that show?
Speaker 1:yeah, for sure, I just like to get it in, yeah, and I mean it was a character.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it In that show. Yeah, for sure, she just liked to get it in. Yeah, I mean, it was a character. Yeah, it was a character, I get it.
Speaker 1:Did you know? Mannequin was one of the last major Hollywood films to use stop-motion animation for certain special effects.
Speaker 3:What do you mean for? Like the Mannequin parts.
Speaker 1:Must have been.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that makes sense, Like if they moved it, moved it, moved it and then it turned into real life.
Speaker 1:And then the character of Emmy was loosely inspired by Pygmalion myth who, in which a sculptor falls in love with a statue that comes to life. Oh okay, yeah, so I guess that's a fun fact, that is a fun fact.
Speaker 2:Equally fun fact we mentioned the closing song. Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now, so that power. You said that was Starship. Right, Correct that. Power ballad Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now by Starship, which was sung by Grace Slick and Mickey Thomas, was not only nominated for Best Song at both the Academy Awards and the Golden Globes, it was also the second best-selling song of 1987. Right after Never Gonna Give you Up by Rick Astley, Ohick astley, yeah I did, I did read that one, that song, that song is timeless.
Speaker 3:That will be here 200 years after we're gone.
Speaker 1:Yep, absolutely you know I was looking at uh movies that were released in 1987 and there were some bangers that came out let me see like I couldn't believe some of these movies. It was a good year for movies. Just to name a few that came out evil dead 2, which is one of my favorites. Like you said, over the top, some kind of wonderful oh yeah, remember that one oh yeah, that's what a chick drummer. That was awesome nightmare on elm street, 3 dream warriors which I saw that was a great song man that hurt that was a great song
Speaker 1:though lethal weapon angel heart.
Speaker 3:You remember that with your, uh yeah, angel heart. Who was in that?
Speaker 1:that was a mickey rourke. Oh yeah, blind date bruce willett yeah, police academy four. So there was another police academy. I wonder if that guy I'm sure he was in the uh, the future police academies, captain harris the guy was in this creep show two. That was a good one. Good horror movie. Beverly hills, cop 2 earnest goes to camp love that poor earnest I think that was one of the first earnest movies.
Speaker 2:Look, that was the first. They made eggs erroneous. Whatever happened to earnest?
Speaker 3:he's dead yeah, jim varney jim varney, that's it predator, the witches of eastwick, yep, spaceballs, yeah what. Nicholson was in Witches of Eastwick.
Speaker 1:Sure was and the Three Ladies. Full Metal Jacket Great movie.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Adventures in Babysitting Dang 87 was crushing it. That was one of my favorite movies actually. Yeah, when.
Speaker 1:I was a good movie summer school la bomba, the lost boys. I mean it just goes on and on.
Speaker 3:That's, that's tough competition. Yeah 87.
Speaker 1:So if you're making 47, what was it 47?
Speaker 3:47.
Speaker 1:You're doing damn good so yeah I guess it'd be the time now where we late fee return or burn right sure zappy you want to lead it off this time well, I didn't pick this goddamn movie, but I'll happily start off.
Speaker 3:Let's see, I'll start off with saying not surprisingly, this movie holds a Rotten Tomatoes rating of 20%. That's not good. That's not good. That's the experts, though. Screw them.
Speaker 2:An average rating of 3.9 out of 10. So with that, and with this being the first time I had ever seen this movie, I loved it for the nostalgia. There is no question of everything from everything we've talked about the montages, the scenes, the everything that was the eighties, the mid to late eighties back loved it, loved it, loved it. I would return it. I would watch it once and return it. I wouldn't burn it, but I definitely wouldn't rent it again.
Speaker 1:Yeah and return it. Return it, yeah, I wouldn't burn it, but I definitely wouldn't rent it again.
Speaker 3:Yeah, matt, you want to go. Yeah, sure, I agree with the zipper on this one. I think it's fun to see again because of the nostalgia aspect, especially with the malls, with the montages. It takes you back to our golden era of movies, the way that we feel that they were like meant to be. Um, the movie actually kind of sucked uh yeah not not like a like a great watch.
Speaker 3:I actually tried to get my kids to watch this with me. Uh, when I was looking for it, they were like I don't want to watch a movie about a mannequin I explained it to them. Um, my son thought it was stupid, but uh, I'd watch it return, I wouldn't burn the thing.
Speaker 1:No, it's just ruthless. Dang, definitely wouldn't burn it. Definitely wouldn't burn it. It holds some value for sure For me nostalgia. Like I said, I saw this in the theater. I do remember really liking it back then, but I was 11.
Speaker 3:So watching it now, yeah, but you had like a girlfriend involved in it. It's one of the and things that takes you back.
Speaker 1:Well, I wasn't with her, but she went and saw it. I remember just as an 11-year-old she liked it too. It was just an entertaining movie. It's the 80s, so that montage stuff is all great. I remember in Hollywood's character and just the flamboyant outfits and just the sunglasses.
Speaker 3:I think we used flamboyant like 16 times. Well, it's just the guy's outfit.
Speaker 1:It guy's office. It's flamboyant, but looking at the fashion now like it's like man, that brings back memories as wild colors and the stuff he was wearing Neons, right. The movie itself was not good. Now, michelle, my wife did not see this movie back when it came out.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, dude, your review is so good. I love this. I love that the movie itself was not good.
Speaker 3:Well, there's everything about this movie but itself sucked.
Speaker 1:The movie itself, the script and all that was not good. Now, michelle had never seen it, knew nothing about it, only knew the song from it, watched it and said you know what? That wasn't bad. I kind of liked it, she kind of enjoyed it.
Speaker 3:Chicks are going to dig this movie, yeah for sure, but what Dave's saying, real quick not to cut you off. It's never really quick, it isn't god damn, it never is yeah but. But they said that this was one of the first movies based on um feedback, from like bringing people into rooms to seeing what they would like. Oh, for real, yeah, and that's why, kind of like, maybe as a movie it wasn't done so well, it was just based on bringing people in and getting feedback and tweaking it. Yeah, they want to see.
Speaker 1:Yes, so in my, in my head, I remember like, oh, this is going to be a really good movie. Obviously it wasn't as good as I remember it, but there was definitely, like you said, nostalgia so I think that's the parts that I kind of dug the huffy bike, little things like that for fashion, so I would return it. I'm watching it once and returning it now in 1987 I'm probably watching it a couple times.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because it was good to me back there spent good for the, for the, for the window display montages, right, or something that maybe the mannequin boob in the beginning you know what I mean nice mannequin she was a well-built mannequin.
Speaker 2:What else was mishak taylor in? I know he was in designing women. What else was he in?
Speaker 1:that's hollywood, correct? I'm not sure, I just remember. As soon as he came on screen, i'm'm like ah, I forgot about this guy.
Speaker 2:I know that guy. What else was he? All right, I like this guy.
Speaker 3:Isn't he the guy from Philadelphia that does all the scary movies?
Speaker 1:That's M Night Shyamalan. Oh damn, I'm sorry. I thought the whole time I was like man, I love that Meshach guy.
Speaker 3:He got some great films.
Speaker 1:pink is that a cadillac, should you. Uh, it was a pink cadillac, yes.
Speaker 2:Wait, was that yes, or was it a lincoln? That was that it was a jam product, then it was a.
Speaker 1:It would have been a cadillac, and he, they pull up in front of it's not raining, the weather's great, and they park and he pulls out this big polka dot car cover whatever. And that's a and that's another part I remembered from back then.
Speaker 3:I'm like that was a flamboyant yeah, the flamboyant guy's car.
Speaker 1:So this movie definitely struck that for me. So, yeah, definitely. I say I enjoyed it, but we'll be back next time with another movie off the list. But I think we're going to pick it based on what we kind of want to see.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, you're welcome. We've done you enough favors. I'm tired of this feedback, god damn.
Speaker 1:But hey, these movies at least will be on the list. The will be on the list, the ones we're picking from. I think we were eyeing up ET. Maybe, if we're lucky, there's a couple of them there.
Speaker 3:ET, that's going way back.
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Speaker 3:No, Mannequin cool.
Speaker 1:Liked it. I guess that's it for now, so we'll catch you where. On the flip side.
Speaker 2:If we don't see you sooner, we'll see you later. Peace.
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