Vintage Album Review: Beastie Boys "License To Ill"

Ever wonder how three punk kids from New York City reshaped the landscape of hip-hop? Our latest episode takes you through the explosive debut of the Beastie Boys' "Licensed to Ill" and its monumental role in catapulting the band to fame. Join us as we share personal anecdotes, including the retirement celebration of our friend Officer Vince, a devoted Beastie Boys fan. Learn how the cultural tapestry of New York City and collaborations with iconic producer Rick Rubin helped shape their unique sound, blending punk, reggae, and Latin beats with an irreverent flair that captured the world's attention.

Travel back to the vibrant early days of the Beastie Boys, from their first gigs to the release of their debut EP "Pollywog Stew." We recount the band's transition from punk beginnings to hip-hop pioneers, fueled by Rick Rubin's technical prowess and boundary-pushing production. Along the way, the Beastie Boys crafted their image with unforgettable antics and performances that left audiences both shocked and enthralled. Dive into the stories behind their rise, including their memorable MTV exposure and a notorious bat mitzvah performance that epitomized their unpredictable style.

As we wrap up, we reflect on the lasting legacy of "Licensed to Ill," dissecting iconic tracks like "Brass Monkey" and "Paul Revere" and sharing stories of how these songs resonated with listeners. From the groundbreaking use of Led Zeppelin samples to the booming impact of the TR-808 drum machine, we explore the technical innovations that made the album a groundbreaking masterpiece. We also touch on the band's legendary collaborations, wild backstage antics, and the intriguing tale behind their controversial original album title. Tune in for a lively discussion filled with music nostalgia, and get ready to relive the magic of the Beastie Boys and their unforgettable debut.

Chapters

• 0:08 Beastie Boys Vintage Album Review
• 4:09 Beastie Boys Origins and Influences
• 11:05 The Beastie Boys Evolution and Collaborations
• 23:27 Musical Influence and Shock Value
• 27:50 Beastie Boys' License to Ill Review
• 35:52 Beastie Boys Collaborations and Album Facts
• 47:59 Beastie Boys Album Memories and Influences
• 59:47 Favorite Beastie Boys Songs and Members
• 1:11:18 Music Benefit House Party
• 1:16:39 Vintage Album Review Podcast Promotion

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:08

Hey man. What are you listening to, man? I'm listening to the vintage album review in the old dirty basement.

Speaker 2: 0:14

Well, turn it up, man. What's up, fellas. Hey what's going on, hey what's going on.

Speaker 3: 0:26

That got me there. I got kind of a giggle out of that.

Speaker 1: 0:29

Right, right. I haven't heard that in a little bit. I never tire of that.

Speaker 3: 0:32

No, that was fun.

Speaker 2: 0:33

So do you guys remember that commercial? Obviously, of course, hopefully our listeners do Freedom Rock, yeah, but this one here is my pick. This is our third vintage album review. Yep, right, am I right on that?

Speaker 1: 0:44

You are 100% right.

Speaker 3: 0:46

What was our first one was Bon Jovi Bon.

Speaker 1: 0:49

Jovi.

Speaker 3: 0:49

No, bon Jovi was the second wasn't it?

Speaker 1: 0:51

No, no, bon Jovi was the first one I know.

Speaker 3: 0:53

Appetite was the first, wasn't it? No, oh thank you.

Speaker 2: 1:06

We should add Officer Vincent for this, because I know he's a Beastie Boys fan for sure.

Speaker 3: 1:09

And speaking of that, that's what he might've been one of the Beastie Boys.

Speaker 2: 1:11

I think he was in Beastie Boys.

Speaker 1: 1:12

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:13

I think he was.

Speaker 1: 1:13

Speaking of Officer Vince. Congratulations, Congratulations to Officer Vince. I read recently that he retired.

Speaker 2: 1:21

Yes, I saw that Our boy's retiring. I think he's going to full-time security for the podcast. He should, yeah, he should do that. We need it.

Speaker 3: 1:28

How long ago did he retire? Just recently.

Speaker 1: 1:30

Just recently, yeah, like the last week or two.

Speaker 3: 1:32

If he's listening, like if you're having a retirement party, we will take a road trip, Shit yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:39

We'll be out there for the retirement party We'll bring some ribsie boys because he would dig it. But uh, definitely, beastie boys is one of my if not up there one of my favorite bands and this album is very influential in everything for me and that would be licensed to ill.

Speaker 1: 1:55

Yeah, you know, with these album reviews we review the album that broke the band, that really, you know, broke them into the mainstream and in this case case it was, for damn sure their first release licensed to hill I like how you said band there, because a lot of times people think of like rap music you don't really think of of like a band.

Speaker 3: 2:12

But bc boys actually did have like a band before they became what people know of them as like a rap group they were certainly musicians, for sure.

Speaker 2: 2:19

Yeah, they were definitely in a band before what you would call a rap group. Yes, even though, as an artist, if you do listen to some of their older uh punk stuff like a band is is a stretch, but they were still still a band right, and one of the parameters that we kind of came up with for vintage album review is when I asked these guys like hey, I want to do beastie boys now, if it was my choice as far as favorite album, it'd probably be paul's boutique, 100 right that is their.

Speaker 1: 2:44

In my opinion, that is their best, that is their masterpiece, the masterpiece, but what?

Speaker 2: 2:49

what we came up with kind of parameters is, when we do this, it's the album that would break a band and kind of make them and and this is a rare occurrence where your first album is the one that broke you a lot of times albums will come out and then it's the second or third one that well, I shouldn't say that gnr was like that as well. I guess you know it was for sure, yeah, but bon jovi, not bon jovi was not and most aren't so, but this one license, ill definitely was the one that set it off.

Speaker 3: 3:14

We don't know what we're doing, then, for how?

Speaker 2: 3:16

we're judging this, but right, right we decided on license to ill yeah, definitely, because this is the one that broke them. This made them worldwide superstars.

Speaker 1: 3:25

Yeah, prestige worldwide.

Speaker 2: 3:27

So tell us a little bit about, I guess, the Beastie Boys. I guess we should start out with how they became the Beastie Boys.

Speaker 1: 3:33

Yeah, like a history A history A little history lesson.

Speaker 1: 3:36

Dave, I'm glad you told it before we go into this. I'm very glad you expressed your appreciation and just a fanfare that you have for this. You know we always ask you know why this one, why did you pick this one? And you know we did it for the bon jovi one, we did it for appetite. You definitely nailed it with this one. Uh, you know for sure, like we, we all know why you picked this album. You are a beastie boys fan through and through for sure they influenced me in many ways.

Speaker 2: 4:02

So, but I'll get into all that later. And I mean, I'm sure you can tell by our logo.

Speaker 1: 4:07

Yeah for sure, yeah. So this band, these beastie boys, came out of the burgeoning New York punk scene, specifically out of Manhattan and Brooklyn. There was a long ago he started a band known as the young Aborigines, which included grade school friends Jeremy Chetan on guitar, john Berry on bass and Mike Diamond on drums and vocals. A fourth member, kate Schellenbach on percussion, would later be invited to join the band. From what I read, I've never heard their body of music, but the band was of a punk style with a mix of reggae and Latin beats. Is that about right?

Speaker 2: 4:47

Yeah, so they. He was very much influenced by the clash. Mike D. That was like a band that he loved and if you listen to the clash um, they have some of that reggae. Uh, you could tell some stuff's like reggae inspired.

Speaker 3: 4:58

It was like a ska type, like early, yeah, early, punk ska.

Speaker 2: 5:01

Yeah, you can definitely see influences in that, so I'm sure, if that's what they're listening to, that's what was coming out in their music.

Speaker 1: 5:07

Okay. I can dig that so, in addition to the band's music, mike Diamond was also a fan of hardcore punk. In 1981, during his business to club to see such bands, he met and befriended a guy named Adam Yock. They were 16 at the time.

Speaker 3: 5:25

That's what I was. Yeah, I don't know, I think I was reading ahead of you, but um, yeah, they were a bunch of like pretty much just kids like 16, 15, 14 year olds.

Speaker 3: 5:31

Yeah, it was insane, yeah, how young they were, and uh, it's like screw face yeah, decibels, yeah, yeah for sure, but these kids like they weren't like, uh, like these hardcore kids like growing up in brooklyn, I think, all of them they like went to private schools where their friends were from. Like they all had, they all had cash and coins so they all had, you know, they would take, you know, music lessons. They all had their own instruments.

Speaker 2: 5:52

Oh yeah, they were they were, uh, from Manhattan and stuff. But I have the beastie book and I read it a few years ago and I revisited it on the audio book these past couple of weeks just to get refreshed on it and I thought it was really cool how they described New York City growing up. Now this is in the seventies. They described how, walking down streets, you would hear these radios panning from one to another with like maybe Latin music over here and like rap music over here and classic rock over here, and it was just a melting pot, much like New York is a melting pot of all these different styles. I can dig that. So New York, as I've been there a few times, is very fast paced and they always seem to be ahead of the curve on in all cities, I guess bigger cities are.

Speaker 2: 6:34

So you can definitely hear and see, I guess with the beastie boys as we'll get into um their influences, their influences, like they come from all over the place.

Speaker 3: 6:43

No, but before, like yeah, before, country music, you know, came out of like the, the Midwest and like places like that, like any music you would pretty much here would be from like either you know, new York or LA 100%, and then it would start making its way because the people that were discovered in these small towns it wasn't like you know, they're coming out of like Montana with like this new new beat, they'd have to get into LA or New Yorkork to start spreading that music. That's where the scenes are, yeah dude, that's the funniest thing.

Speaker 1: 7:06

So nowadays everything comes out all at the same time. Everything is nationwide, right, yep, or you have the ability to do it. When I was a kid I remember visiting new york as a kid and seeing like advertisements for movies or for this, that the other thing. That wouldn't make their way to our area here in Pennsylvania until a month or so later. I also remember going out to California, like Simi Valley right outside of LA, listening to the music and stuff out there. It wouldn't make its way to Pennsylvania until months later.

Speaker 3: 7:37

You can probably get back here and be like where's that song at Correct, Correct?

Speaker 2: 7:40

We're like Kazakhstan you know what I mean Exactly and Borat, when it's like Michael Jackson number one, you know, and this is 2010 or whatever. Yeah, they just got beat it over there.

Speaker 1: 7:50

So Mike Diamond's friend, adam Yock, began showing up at those young Aborigines practice sessions. Now the young Aborigines would rehearse their songs. Their guitar player, shetan, would go home when rehearsal ended and Yach would hang out with the remainder of the band and practice other songs and develop their own material. So I think it's kind of weird to the extent that he's like alright, here's this band, this other guy's showing up, alright, hey, everybody, I'm leaving, peace out. I understand you guys are going to get into something else after I leave, and then they would just re, you know, rehearse completely different, other stuff, and do different stuff.

Speaker 2: 8:27

Yeah, it's. It's almost like a relationship Like you would think about if you were with your girl and then you left and some dude showed up and then they're like it's not unlike that, I think they were just friends, like I think you just like would hang out with the other guy.

Speaker 3: 8:40

He's a guitarist, but like I got, I got some cool stuff If you want to hear it. It had nothing else to do. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2: 8:45

It'd be like if JW showed up and then we're recording, and then you guys, and then like so that's what I think, like JW or Matt and I and JW, or you and Matt and JW are doing something or whatever I can no-transcript.

Speaker 3: 9:10

Just kind of like I think just jamming.

Speaker 2: 9:12

Yeah, they're just jamming, dude, you know, you don't know what's going to be.

Speaker 3: 9:15

Yeah, become of it, that's fair I can dig sitting there drinking some beers when you're like 16, like oh man, we're gonna have here check this out. And they had nothing to do so they were just.

Speaker 1: 9:23

You know, the other guy had to go home and eat well, there's that, and also, I would imagine, from chaton's perspective uh, jeremy chaton's perspective he would just be like look man, you guys do whatever you want yeah exactly. I couldn't care less about that music. I can't stand it.

Speaker 1: 9:36

It's not my style, so have at it yeah, no well well, that summer this is now the summer of 1981, chetan left New York City to vacation with his parents, and while he was gone the Young Aborigines Project was shelved, which is nice, it's like you know. At least nobody stepped in, but the three other members and Yach had formed a hardcore punk band known as the Beastie Boys.

Speaker 2: 10:02

Yeah, boys entering anarchistic stages towards internal excellence.

Speaker 1: 10:07

Which I've heard was developed well after the fact.

Speaker 2: 10:11

No, well, they said on the Apple documentary that I mean they referenced that, so I don't know. Maybe they did come up with it afterwards.

Speaker 1: 10:18

My understanding is it came up after the fact.

Speaker 2: 10:20

But the way they talked about it in the documentary was that Yao came up with it and told them that's and because Ad-Rock made a joke like well, we had a girl in the band at the time, so number one, so we're not really boys, we're boys and a girl. Plus, if boys is in, that, is it acronym? Is that what it is?

Speaker 2: 10:36

Sure a joke about it I guess that yalk had made up the name and and the what it meant. So who knows, though that's fair. Maybe he did come up with it later, but you would think beastie boys doesn't really make sense I think they just.

Speaker 1: 10:52

There was a good alliteration for it.

Speaker 2: 10:54

Well, I also know they were big fans of bad brains which is a punk band out of dc, so they wanted to have the bb like there you go that makes more sense.

Speaker 1: 11:05

Well, the beastie boys first live gig was on october 5th 1981 at adam yoke's 17th birthday party at john barry's parents house. Now present at this show was a local record store owner named dave parsons, who was in the midst of starting up a record label known as Rat Cage Records. On November 8th 1981, after having played a number of shows solely for exposure no money, this is just to get their name out there the Beastie Boys played their first paying gig. It was a show at a local venue called the Playroom. In mid-December of that year, 1981, the Beastie Boys were approached by that record store owner, dave parsons, to record what would ultimately become the pollywog stew ep album. The band broke up not long after recordings were complete.

Speaker 1: 11:57

Well, let's fast forward to july now in 1982, when pollywog stew is finally released, months after it was recorded. Now, album sales within new york city's local punk scene sparked a renewed interest in the band and the four members got back together to play some shows to promote it makes sense again. They had broken up by now now. Meanwhile, another hardcore punk band known as the young and the useless had come up in the new york hardcore punk scene in the same fashion as the beastie boys, members of the young and the useless had come up with a new york hardcore punk scene. In the same fashion as the beastie boys, members of the young and the useless included dave skilkin, adam trees, arthur africano and a guy by the name of adam horowitz as their lead singer. They too had recorded and released an ep on dave parsons rat cage records label yeah, now, horowitz was younger than those guys, I think.

Speaker 2: 12:49

Uh, at the time mca adam yalke is the oldest and he might be like two or three years older, and then mike diamond and horowitz, I think are very close in age, you know they were younger I thought it was.

Speaker 2: 13:03

I thought yalk and diamond were the same age, younger or no, I'm sorry, yalk's older than than mike diamond, okay, because he even made a reference to when he first saw yalk at a punk show. He noticed him over there and he was like a little bit older but dressed really cool and stuff. They were like man, that guy he's like. He had the trench coat on with all the buttons and all that and they were very intimidated by him, like oh, he's too cool to go and talk to which. They ended up befriending him then. But yeah, there's an age difference for sure okay, okay.

Speaker 1: 13:33

Well, by december of 1982, the beastie boys had gained a substantial following and were playing a number of shows in the new york hardcore punk scene. Uh, in fact the Young and the Useless was one of their opening acts. Shortly before New Year's Eve, 1982, john Barry quit the band. Adam Horowitz was invited to join in his place. I see something forming here. In March of 1983, the Beastie Boys recorded Cookie Puss, which would be released not long after, by the end of the summer 1983, which would be released not long after, by the end of the summer 1983,. Despite having had moderate success, the Beastie Boys shelved the band when three of its four members, diamond, yauch and Schellenbach went off to their first semester of college. Adam Horowitz, being the youngest, was still in high school.

Speaker 2: 14:19

Yeah, there he is. Horowitz was still younger there you go.

Speaker 1: 14:23

Well, upon his return from college for mid-year break in December of 1983, mike Diamond decided to drop out of school and devote his time and efforts to the Beastie Boys. In February 1984, that's just a couple of months later, the band played a show in Boston with a new additional member, none other than Rick Rubin, who served as the band's DJj, then known as dj double r, and enabled the members to better perform, for their tracks to sound fuller yeah, so that too they were talking about when they first met rick rubin.

Speaker 2: 14:56

At that time, like I said, they were very much getting into hip-hop, so they were trying to scratch on like their parents, like uh regular turntables and they were saying how they were like ruining the equipment and stuff. But when they first met Ruben, not only you're going to ruin the records, but the needles and everything.

Speaker 1: 15:11

Dude, I'm sure I'm not the only one to say that I tried to scratch on my parents turntable, which is not a DJ turntable, with the heavy arm or the heavy head to it. I'm sure I ruined a record player or two.

Speaker 2: 15:23

Yeah, you'll really jack it up. But Ruben had two Techniques 1200s in his dorm room which are, like I mean at the time and still to this day, like legendary machines for scratching and doing all that. But you have to have a specific needle and type turntable for that or you'll just ruin everything. But he had all that equipment.

Speaker 3: 15:40

Now didn't Ruben go to high school? With which one Was it? Mike Diamond? No, ruben's older, so he's in college.

Speaker 2: 15:46

At the time he was in NYU and that's how they met him in college, okay.

Speaker 3: 15:49

I knew they were classmates of him so I guess it was in college is what I read with classmates.

Speaker 1: 15:53

Well, nobody went to school with Ruben, they just hung out with him.

Speaker 2: 15:59

They were in high school and he was in couple years older.

Speaker 1: 16:01

Okay they were seeking? Yeah, at some point what I had gathered they were looking for a dj. Uh, because they really wanted to again have to be able to be out there and not have to worry about maintaining the sound. That was, of course, overlaid with extra tracks on the recording, but they also wanted to have an mc right like somebody you know that's back there. That could you know.

Speaker 3: 16:19

Just just keep everything on pace while they do whatever they were doing because they were they, they could still instruments, but they know they needed somebody. Yeah, they, they couldn't, they didn't know how to scratch or mix.

Speaker 2: 16:29

Yeah, do all that while they're trying to perform.

Speaker 1: 16:31

Yep, rick Rubin, he's a smart kid. In the spring of that year, rubin convinced the band to leave rat cage records and join his up and coming Def Jam record label. Never heard of him, never heard of him, yeah right. He also convinced them to find new management under an up and coming hip hop producer named Russell Simmons. That's a Never heard of him either.

Speaker 2: 16:52

Never heard of him.

Speaker 1: 16:53

Never heard of him either yeah, by July of 84, ruben and Simmons partnered to reform Def Jam into Def Jam Recordings. Fun fact the label's first release was LL Cool J's I Need a Beat. Even more fun fact Adam Horowitz provided the beat for that track.

Speaker 2: 17:10

Yeah, I was going to say he could DJ too he could do all that stuff For sure, but he couldn't do that and MC at the same time.

Speaker 1: 17:17

No, rick Rubin and Def Jam Records proved to be the shift in the Beastie Boys' musical style. The Beastie Boys' first single with Def Jam Records, rock Hard, would be recorded not long after. By the end of 1984, the Beastie Boys had converted exclusively to hip-hop and by that virtue changed their image from hardcore punk to that of tough rapper guys. Now, despite being a lesbian, kate Schellenbach did not fit the image of being a tough rapper guy. In fact, she was fired from the band in December of 1984.

Speaker 2: 17:52

As those guys speak about this later on, they definitely regretted how that went down, but it was almost like Rick Rubin was kind of like Dude, he was driving a train man Absolutely. So he knew that she didn't fit what he wanted the band to be and she kind of described it in the book as well, as they kind of just grew apart and she probably would have left on her own after a while, anyhow, because they were just going in a totally different direction.

Speaker 3: 18:16

But she seemed to do quite well with herself as she's gotten older.

Speaker 2: 18:20

Absolutely. There's a band called Luscious Jackson, if you may have heard of them.

Speaker 1: 18:27

So there's a band called Luscious Jackson, If you may have heard of them. So there was a. Uh, there's a picture and you can see it. It's almost like they, they. They took the picture like a week before she was fired and the next week they're all wearing jumpsuits, the is it? Jumps? Tracksuits, Tracksuits, the Puma ones, the black and red. Yes, no-transcript, get rid of your. Uh, you know your track suits uh. Come back for another session.

Speaker 3: 19:00

Now, it's just three like one of the things, like when they broke up like you. They see them like movies where you break up with, like your ex-boyfriend or girlfriend. They like cut cut them out of the picture exactly throw it back on there I think we should get like like white leacock sportive jumpsuits oh, dude I.

Speaker 2: 19:13

I said that a long time ago about like a new logo with like white kangol hats I think it'd be sweet cold chains yeah, I'm james, I'm down.

Speaker 3: 19:21

You can get the v dub one.

Speaker 2: 19:22

Yeah, not even that, but just like the some Cuban links. I said about dressing like the gentleman like 20 gauge. There's a plaid tracksuits cuz you look like that dude net when.

Speaker 3: 19:34

I grow a little bit, yeah, when I grow a little bit of a beard, I can pull that off, but we uh, yeah, we could do that in the mailbag.

Speaker 2: 19:40

Yes, like a new image.

Speaker 3: 19:42

We just totally sold out like, whatever, like if you donate, and, and we have a new image, right, right, we, we just totally sold out like, whatever, like if you donate, and, and we have a new image, whatever, whatever you want, speaking of new image, and since we're recording this and now in the holiday season, have either of you guys seen the the target commercials with that hipster santa?

Speaker 2: 19:58

no, oh my god, there's a hipster santa yeah, yeah, like a, like a curled up mustache.

Speaker 1: 20:05

So he's got a. He's got just a, a nice like a mature person's haircut, like you know, not too long on top. You know it's not, it's just a good gentleman politician and a and a beard, but well meticulated beard and he's walking around like a flannel. Well buttoned up shirt like skinny uh yeah, skinny furry. What's that called when your pants are lined with like this furry shit? Yeah, like a fleece line, thank you fleece lined pants, boots it's dude, it's hipster. Santa drinking like a smoothie. It's bad, what?

Speaker 3: 20:39

are they?

Speaker 1: 20:39

trying to redo the image dude, it's fucking of santa claus.

Speaker 3: 20:43

Yeah, dude, look up target santa, it's fucking bad yeah, I'm gonna have to, yeah, I'm gonna have to cut them off, like I did starbucks.

Speaker 1: 20:50

I want nothing to do with them, nothing they really are just crushing the idea of what santa's supposed to look like. Oh, skinny, think of skinny santa again wearing skinny jeans but not like the big furry white beard.

Speaker 3: 21:02

You said he got like a trim beard.

Speaker 1: 21:03

Oh, well manicured. There's oil in it. Oh, geez Some beard oil. I'm telling you it's wrong, it's just wrong. Yeah, that's crazy, that's not cool, had to put that out there.

Speaker 2: 21:14

Nah, that's cool. Tis the season.

Speaker 1: 21:15

Yes, well, as hip hop expanded into the mainstream, the Beast DJ Double R, known as Rick Rubin, were tapped to join Madonna on her 1985 Like a Virgin tour.

Speaker 2: 21:27

So quick story about that. How did they land that? This is really cool how this happened. So Madonna's management team called Russell Simmons and was like hey, can we get Run DMC to open for Madonna? And he's like, yeah, it's $20,000 a night. And they're like, yeah, no, we can't do that. They hang up. They call like, yeah, no, we can't do that. They hang up. They call back Like hey, can we get the fat boys? And Russell Simmons is like, no, they're busy, I can't. But I got these boys, the Beastie Boys, they'll do it for $500. I think it was $500 tonight. They're like we'll take it. So that's kind of what happened. It was like and russell is a businessman, he's like, yeah, I'm not losing out, I can promote my boys here and yeah, they'll make a little money. Get get some. Uh, now at this time, just to be honest with you, madonna, at the beginning of the tour, it was with within the tour that she blew up like she was not as big as as big as what she was.

Speaker 3: 22:25

That makes sense. So like I guess a couple shows into the uh the tour it started getting ready and then they started taking some of her singles and, yeah, they started growing, but as they grew, like you said, you have these young kids there, so people are seeing them like these guys joking around like what is this like? Is this funny? But people started getting into their music.

Speaker 1: 22:42

For sure. Well, so for sure. And kudos to the Beastie Boys. I mean, these guys are hard workers. While on this tour, they'd you know they'd be there to open the show for Madonna. They'd play to her fans, they would finish. Whenever Then they'd leave that show, go to local clubs again right afterwards, play their own music, you know, again right to a whole different group of people who weren't you know, look at the stupid madonna show, right, and then they'd finally sleep on the tour bus or the plane each night. Well, they had basically played.

Speaker 2: 23:13

They were playing like all day or all night, and then they would just sleep when they were traveling so they only had rock hard and one other song at that time. Okay, and also they would go out and these are like 12 year old, 15 year old, 15-year-old girls, like the majority of the people in the audience.

Speaker 1: 23:26

They're playing the decibels.

Speaker 2: 23:27

Right, and one thing that Rick Rubin pushed for these guys was they were big wrestling fans. You know how wrestling is just like a big show. Sure, just be loud and obnoxious.

Speaker 3: 23:37

Like crazy and silly.

Speaker 2: 23:38

So he wanted that to be kind of what the Beastie Boys emulated in the music world. Kind of what the Beastie Boys emulated in the music world. So they'd come out and just be annoying and just to the crowd and just like They'd have like blown up, blow up penises like on stage.

Speaker 3: 23:52

Well, not at this point, okay, but it was that was later on.

Speaker 2: 23:55

But these girls are like with their mouths open, like what the hell is this? They're just irreverent and coming out.

Speaker 3: 24:00

So they were like insane clown posse, yeah, before they were like insane, insane clown posse.

Speaker 2: 24:06

Yeah, before they were like icp, it's all. Shock value wasn't a good mix, but madonna liked them.

Speaker 1: 24:08

She wanted to keep them on tour. That's amazing. Yeah, well as speaking of madonna uh, with mtv becoming the place to be for musicians to make their mark, a video for the beastie boys second single, with def jam's On it, was created and released in late August. Rick Rubin was already a dealmaker and a handshaker. He'd managed to position she's On it into heavy rotation on MTV. Crush Groove, a movie loosely based on the humble beginnings of Def Jam Records, which also featured the Beastie Boys in a cameo appearance, was released in late October. So everything's lining up?

Speaker 2: 24:46

Oh, absolutely so there's a story behind. When that video came out, there must have been a station, and I asked Brooklyn Brian, a buddy of mine, about this and he doesn't remember, but in the book they talk about there was a station in New York. It was like a UHF channel that they would play music videos on. It wasn't MTV playing music videos on, it wasn't mtv uh, but it was like local access, like a local public access, right. So this young girl sees. These young girls are seen as beastie boys. She's on a video and they love it. This girl happened to be the daughter of a very uh, he was like a ceo of a record label and she's like having her, uh, bat mitzvah, I guess is that what it is?

Speaker 2: 25:21

for the female she's like daddy, I want beastie boys to come play at my bat mitzvah. So he calls the management and wants Run DMC and Beastie Boys to come to this girls' bat mitzvah. So they're all like 17, 18 at the time. These girls are all like 16. The dad knew nothing about Beastie Boys. He wanted Run DMC and them to come. Now he was aware of Beastie or of Run DMC at the time. In between the time that he booked them and they showed up, he found out what they were kind of about from this video and stuff. So when they got, a limo came, picked them up in Manhattan and drove them out to Long Island and they talk about it in the book. They get there and they're escorted right into a private like secondary house there he does not want them.

Speaker 2: 26:01

He was like I don't want anywhere yeah, I don't want these boys out mingling with these 16 year old girls, because now I kind of see what they're about right so they go in there and uh he he said I think it was mike d was telling the story in the book one of the dj I don't know if it was the dj, it wouldn't have been rick rubin, but somebody was with him in the crew broke out through a window and went out streaking around the pool that's great and uh, they got him in, locked him back in the house.

Speaker 2: 26:25

When they brought him out to perform and they did she's on it and probably that one other song. About halfway through the dad pulled the plug and was like all right, thanks, fellas, gave him the money and they left. Yeah, he was like you guys got to get out of here so he didn't want a case.

Speaker 3: 26:37

He didn't want to catch a case, right, so this is before.

Speaker 2: 26:40

Uh, obviously, like the mtv play and all that, they were just they were. They weren't quite what they would become, obviously, but I thought that was a wild story. But to have that money for your daughter to have run the mc at the time was huge, that's baller.

Speaker 3: 26:52

Yeah, that's courage, money mtv has that like my sweet 16.

Speaker 2: 26:56

I don't know if you've ever seen any of those.

Speaker 3: 26:57

Yeah, where they're. Like these guys like little wayne had his kid on and right right, they're putting out money man.

Speaker 1: 27:04

Did either of you guys ever see that Crush Groove movie?

Speaker 2: 27:06

Yeah, absolutely, it's been a long time, but Crush Groove and Bonnie Niven.

Speaker 1: 27:13

I'm just asking. I've never seen it.

Speaker 2: 27:15

Oh man, it's a great flick.

Speaker 3: 27:16

It's pretty cool.

Speaker 2: 27:17

There's a cool scene in there. I think that's Crush Groove. Or is that Breaking, breaking You're thinking of breaking or breaking to where he's dancing with the room. Yeah, that's breaking to Okay.

Speaker 3: 27:28

That's breaking. There moves that difference.

Speaker 2: 27:30

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 27:30

For my money, I'll take Beat Street. Yeah, beat Street. That's another good one. Beat Street is great Big fan, so she's on it. That was just again a single. That wasn't on any album, that was just a single they recorded.

Speaker 2: 27:42

They have a video to for like I.

Speaker 1: 27:50

In May 1986, def Jam released the Beastie Boys single Hold it Now, hit it, in advance of their touring, as an opening act for Run DMC. The single Paul Revere would follow not long after, in August, followed by the New Style released in the first week of November, and on November 15th 1986, license to Ill hit record store shelves.

Speaker 2: 28:17

Yeah, that Hold it Now hit. It was like it was cool to hear them describe how they came up with that. So when they did she's On it and the stuff before it was like the style was kind of getting fed to them Like, hey, say this, do that. And they were very much. And Rick Rubin, I'm not going to lie, and all this had a lot to do with like what they were recording and what you know what the music would go on the beat. But this hold it now hit. It was the first time that they got that together and were like you know it'd be cool if we took, uh, you know this, uh, hold it now was from curtis blow and they hit it with slick rick and they throw some uh like, uh, horns and whistles and it was all their influences and they put it all together.

Speaker 2: 28:56

And, uh, they had the song kind of put together and they played it for rick rubin and he was like this is awesome, we got to put it out right now, nice. And when they played it for russell, he was like absolutely, this is going to be huge. And he kept telling them like you guys are going to be the biggest thing he saw being a white group doing rap music, like they were going to be huge because it was.

Speaker 1: 29:16

You could now they're breaking the barrier you could sell it to you could sell it to white kids who got money right absolutely as you guys like to say real quick, beastie boys.

Speaker 1: 29:24

Fun fact uh, ad brock's mom was a catholic, his dad was jewish yes, however, I didn't know that mA's mother was Jewish and his father was Catholic maybe my kids will be like the Beastie Boys little it was just interesting to see too, that, like the mother was Catholic, the other ones mother's a Jew, and then the other guy's father is is Catholic and the other guy's father is it.

Speaker 3: 29:48

You know, it's just the reverse of the two things right, yeah, like the Beastie Boys growing like you, you know yawking all them like that they they had money, these like weren't like no thinking inner city correct inner city like uh new york kids this wasn't like like the show kids or the movie kids, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2: 30:07

They definitely, I would say, or at least middle class, if not yeah, above that. Yeah, they were pretty upper middle if you're living in manhattan especially, yeah exactly correct.

Speaker 1: 30:16

They had money right I mean, that's the background on the beastie boys that's. This has taken us from their their humble beginnings and although we've already mentioned that they, their upbringing, wasn't exactly humble, uh, but uh, yeah that feeling the beastie boys.

Speaker 2: 30:30

Humble beginnings to the release of this album license to hell and one thing, and one thing I thought was cool too, when they talked about the recording of this and how they came up with different tracks and stuff. There was one. The first song on the album is Rhymin' and Stealin', right, so there's a sample on that from Led Zeppelin. I forget what song it is the Levee.

Speaker 3: 30:50

When the Levee breaks.

Speaker 2: 30:51

When the Levee breaks but uh, they described back then in the 80s like you could only take a one second clip and oh for a sample for a sample.

Speaker 2: 31:01

So to get around that, he heard about and this is before the internet and they talk about it in the book that he was always so ahead of things and they were like how do you know about this stuff? Like how do you even know how to do this? So he took a reel-to-reel and stretched the tape out, like around chairs and around the table, like to make the tape extra long and loop that part of when the levee breaks, the drum beat for that song. So there was unique things like that that went into the recording of this album that people weren't really doing at that time and obviously the the introduction of the 808 drum machine that they used. That was also something that at the time other people were using. Uh, but that was like just up and coming at the time. But I thought that was a pretty interesting story when you described it. So yeah, back to the uh track listing. I guess we'll get into that. Matt, you want to take that?

Speaker 3: 31:50

okay, I'll do. Uh, I'll do uh. Side one, track one uh, rhyming and stealing written by beastie boys and rick rubin. Track two we got the new style and that's also like. All these are written by beastie boys and rick rubin, which you don't see a lot anymore. All these, uh, these artists you see. Now they have songs written by these songwriters and they mostly like, put them out there for them or write them for certain.

Speaker 3: 32:14

You know people, so that's cool to see that you know, also, uh, track three we have she's crafty, she's just my type. Uh, four, we have posse, in effect, five, slow ride. Six, we have girls, which is uh, probably my. My kids think that's rated as one of the worst. I think it is the worst.

Speaker 1: 32:37

Well, it was a joke. Yeah, it's a joke. I would agree with that rating.

Speaker 3: 32:41

Yeah, it is, but I'm just saying it's a funny song Because the tune's kind of fun too, I'm saying for kids. And track seven is Fight For your Right, which wasn't really one of my favorite. No, yeah, not at all, but that's the one that kind of broke. Yeah, broke this album, I should say and you want to do side two there. Dave or zap, take it, I'll take it. Yeah, that's fine yeah.

Speaker 2: 33:01

So side two is no sleep till brooklyn. And that was uh by beastie boys and rick rubin. And then we have paul revere that's one of my personal favorites. That was by adam horowitz, daryl mcdaniels, who was from run DMC, Joseph Simmons and Rick Rubin. Yep A holder now hit. It is beastie boys and Rick Rubin, brass monkey, beastie boys, Rick Rubin. We have slow and low by DMC again, and Joseph Simmons and Rick Rubin. And time to get ill by beastie boys and Rick Rubin. I'm thinking Joseph Simmons is uh.

Speaker 3: 33:30

Russell Simmons brother.

Speaker 2: 33:32

Yeah, is uh russell simmons brother? Yeah, from uh run dmc, correct?

Speaker 1: 33:34

I was thinking you have the two. You have the run and the dmc. From run, dmc the only jay, master, jay, that's right. Dj, yeah, that's right so jay, master jay, yeah, he was the dj. You've got the, the, you got mc run and then you got dmc yeah, I knew they were brothers, but I actually didn't know run.

Speaker 2: 33:50

Run's first name was joseph, yeah I didn't, I did not know. There you go, yeah so on on.

Speaker 3: 33:54

On the reverend he is a reverend. Yes, I think you can go to school or not go to school. You can go online and get like a license for that. You can like your reverend license to ill all right.

Speaker 2: 34:03

So for the band members of the beast boys, we talked about them already, but here they go. So we have adam keith horowitz, that's aka ad rock, the king ad rock. He's on vocals and guitar. Adam nathaniel yalk, aka mca, vocals, bass, guitar, upright bass and keyboard. Then we have michael lewis diamond, aka mike d, vocals, drums, percussions, keyboards. Additional members rick rubin, rhythm guitar on no sleep to brooklyn, carrie king from slayer and he was on fight for your right and no Sleep to Brooklyn. And Nelson Keen Kars, danny Lippman and Tony Orbach on Horns and Percussions on Slow Ride. This was produced by Rick Rubin.

Speaker 2: 34:43

Beastie Boys, joe Blaney did the mixing, stevenette is the audio engineer, steve Bryan on the art design, art direction, I should say Sonnyach on photography and dave gamble on cover art. And one thing I do know they were upset about that would be, I shouldn't say but upset about, but a little bit bummed was in the era they grew up with with punk rock. You would do your own artwork, you would draw it up, you would do all that stuff. All this artwork was kind of pre-packaged and delivered to them like this is going to be your album cover. As well as the mixing and editing on this. Adam yalk was able to do all that.

Speaker 2: 35:18

But uh, what happened is is that, um, rick rubin went ahead and and kind of cleaned this whole album up and edited it and did everything himself and kind of presented it to him like, hey, it's all done. Uh, I got it all mixed and ready for you. So they really had no, no input. No input, had no input on the way it sounded or anything. But he did. They were happy with how professional it sounded. It was ready for the radio, ready for that. Obviously later on, on later albums, that's why they went their own route. We'll get into that, I guess, maybe later on.

Speaker 3: 35:52

Yeah, so let's get into some track specific facts shall we did you guys talk about like uh dr dre or uh dj hurricane you know from dr dre and I love her no, no, no, it wasn't him. They actually, the beastie boys, did have one of them on that show yeah, yo mtv, that was your mtv rap.

Speaker 3: 36:10

Fab right, fab five, freddy but uh, yeah, did you got about? Uh, dr, dre was one of the first djs they had after rick rubin, because rick rubin, and are we? Did we get to their fallout yet, or anything like that.

Speaker 2: 36:20

No, but you know that's not the dr dre.

Speaker 3: 36:22

Yes, exactly it's dr dre was the name. That's what I'm saying. It's funny because it's just some like chubby dj, dude that.

Speaker 2: 36:29

And if you say dr dre to most people they Dr Dre from NWA. Yeah.

Speaker 3: 36:33

I'm glad we explained that. But that was the name of the DJ, was Dr Dre.

Speaker 2: 36:37

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 36:37

And then they had, I think the one that traveled with them the most was this DJ Hurricane, which was just some kid.

Speaker 2: 36:45

Yeah, Hurricane's the one that was with them for years.

Speaker 3: 36:47

Yeah, he took the ride with them, but that guy was pretty talented. He was a pretty cool DJ, cool dj. They were very close to him but, um, he was.

Speaker 3: 36:55

and this one thing I saw about the beastie boys it was like an unauthorized whatever, so they couldn't use their music or anything right, but they talked to like dr dre who was not dr dre that you're thinking and this dj hurricane like mix master, mike or something like that. But this dj hurricane was saying that, like when they were touring with like dmc, like people would go backstage with them.

Speaker 3: 37:10

These white boys are crazy because they'd just be like throwing, like you'd walk in and be like bottles whipping across you. They're like throwing food at you and stuff like that. They said like their backstage stuff wasn't like how you would think these rock stars or like big rappers with all these ladies and stuff. They're just like ragging on people and like yeah they're just like a bunch of kids and like just enjoying what, what they made of themselves. So I thought that was like a that's a fun thing to say.

Speaker 2: 37:32

It was that whole wrestling thing, yeah, trying to be crazy and off the wall.

Speaker 3: 37:36

But yeah, Rick Rubin wasn't their DJ for forever. They took this DJ Hurricane guy, which was pretty much their guy.

Speaker 1: 37:42

Yeah, yeah, okay, let's get into some album specific and track specific facts, shall we? So, first and foremost, the album was originally titled Don't Be a Faggot.

Speaker 3: 37:54

Yes.

Speaker 2: 37:54

And he said, uh, no, yeah, the record label was like yeah, you can't do that it's probably a bad idea.

Speaker 1: 37:59

Well, you can, but you're not going to sell any records.

Speaker 2: 38:02

Well, they, yeah, they want to prove it.

Speaker 1: 38:03

The record label was like yeah, it's not going to happen yeah, I think they chose wisely by not going with that title well in the 80s, especially like I was.

Speaker 2: 38:11

I'm not gonna say I was surprised, but that term was thrown around a lot in movies and everything else. So I don't I'm not saying I'm surprised that they didn't allow it to go through, but I kind of was in a way that they wouldn't have been like, oh yeah, whatever, it wasn't a big deal.

Speaker 3: 38:24

That's what you're saying. Yeah Back then, but yeah in the mid, in the mid to a lot of like the gay people would have been like I don't want that album.

Speaker 1: 38:33

Sure, there's a lot of foul words that could be used, and this was one, and it was the, despite being less foul than so many other words. At the time, the record company was like well there's no need to push the envelope on that, let's just move it along.

Speaker 2: 38:49

Yeah, I think Ad-Rock the way he described it in the book was like um, they were kind of making fun of the, the jock culture like college and all that. So that's kind of why they he's like. But obviously looking back he's like we regret that we even thought about that and he's glad that they shut it down. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 39:05

Uh, the album uh was actually certified platinum. That copies sold by february 2nd of 1987, that's just two and a half months after its release and I think I read that like that's huge.

Speaker 2: 39:18

It is huge, but I think I read too. As of now, it's like 10 million, 10 million, whatever.

Speaker 1: 39:22

They call that diamond status or whatever, yeah that's amazing I had read that it was ranked at 192 on rolling stone magazine's 2020 list of the 500 greatest albums of all time. Now, I couldn't care less what rolling stone says yeah, but I mean it's, it's a, it is a magazine or a periodical that a lot of people read or a lot of people are into.

Speaker 3: 39:42

So hey, man, I mean that says a lot you take it with a grain of salt, but it's hard, like how you would even know that I I hate when they do like the top 100 songs correct this or, in your opinion, yeah the top 100 albums that you need to get today and you're just like man, are you hurt?

Speaker 3: 39:59

But most of those, when they do say that, I mean they are like you said this record thing and the Rolling Stones is a Rolling Stone, but some of the stuff, yeah, you can agree to disagree with.

Speaker 1: 40:07

Dave, I know you have a copy of this album. Do you have any fun facts on what the album features?

Speaker 2: 40:15

have any fun facts on the uh what the album features. So the front of the crash plane is is made to like emulate a joint being put out okay, an extinguished joint extinguished joint. Yeah, I thought yeah, that's pretty cool I thought that was a cigarette. Yeah, well, I think it's more a they were in a weed smoke, sure, yes, um, and then also on the back of the plane, there is a uh, it's three mta3, which spells eat me when viewed in a mirror.

Speaker 2: 40:34

So, that was pretty cool and fun fact. Fun fact. So Eminem came out with an album, maybe like a year or two ago, and he emulated this on the front of his. I think it was called Kamikaze, okay, and he did this basically an ode to the Beastie Boys.

Speaker 3: 40:48

Nice.

Speaker 2: 40:48

It's the same cover art, tweaked a little bit for him because it's Eminem. Sure cover art tweaked a little bit for for him because his Eminem, but yeah, cause he's obviously very influenced by beastie boys, nice.

Speaker 1: 40:57

I had read that there were two tracks that were left off of the album. One is known as a scenario and another is a rendition of the Beatles song. That's not the beasties song, but the Beatles song. I'm down. I found it interesting because I'm down was pulled due to legal disputes with Michael Jackson, who owned the Beatles' publishing rights at the time. Do you guys remember that?

Speaker 2: 41:20

I don't remember that. Yes, he did, I totally remember that.

Speaker 3: 41:23

Yeah, he bought the whole catalog Shit yeah.

Speaker 2: 41:26

Yeah, that's right, he did buy the catalog. I do remember that part. But back to that song Rock Hard, there was a ACDC track mixed in with that, yeah, and I guess, like it's never really been released or when it was released, I guess they were in maybe in copyright um infringement or whatever, because they wanted to release this on a compilation and mike d I think it was mike d or ad rock approached uh, the one member of acdc angus young, angus young, and was like hey, can we use?

Speaker 2: 41:54

and he was like nah, you know he wouldn't give him permission.

Speaker 1: 41:57

I read this too. So angus angus had said basically look, sorry man, we just don't like sampling. And mike d's response was fine, we don't like it. We don't like guys with guitars right, right, right.

Speaker 2: 42:07

But yeah, they, they won't allow, but you can find it on youtube. Sure to go on there sure?

Speaker 1: 42:12

um. So my particular favorite band of all time, led zeppelin, is sampled not once, not twice, but thrice on this album, where we hear the drums, and again only the drums, from when the levy breaks. We talked about that on rhyming and stealing. That is overlaid with black sabbath's sweet leaf guitar riff so that's a great song it is, it is good, it is convenient. Obviously I, I I think of so many of these tracks where rick rubin is just sitting like a mad scientist somewhere like oh yeah yeah, this has that tempo cool and so does this song great.

Speaker 1: 42:49

And like he's playing them simultaneously, picking up this piece in that pace and and again, like you know, frankenstein stining them together.

Speaker 3: 42:56

Right, but trade though with like the, those like 70s. Well, sweet Liv, was what 70s right?

Speaker 1: 43:01

Oh yeah.

Speaker 3: 43:02

Yeah, but it was just like that, that, that like you can put that with like anything, like just they had that, just that, that like pump that beat that, just you know.

Speaker 1: 43:18

And yeah, rick rubin was pretty smart dude, he's a genius. Yeah, it's all right again. I can't help again remind myself that this is rick rubin growing up with led zeppelin right like that would have been his jams growing up. He just plays what he knows and he just applies that to this new concept known as hip-hop right uh, oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1: 43:32

So back to led zeppelin. Uh, the second instance of led zeppelin is the guitar riff from the ocean on the track she's crafty and finally the guitar riff from custard pie on time to get ill. And that is mixed with uh, down on the corner by ccr. So when you hear that thing of ccr playing, you're going to hear the riff right before it of of custard pie oh, there you go, yeah uh, shall we go through all of the sampling? Yeah, why not?

Speaker 3: 43:59

why not? Yeah, it's cool.

Speaker 1: 44:00

It's cool to know about that for people that are listening so for the people that are listening, other samples track by track. Uh, besides, the aforementioned five samples include on rhyming and stealing. Sorry, rhyme in and stealing. I fought the law by the clash on the new style. We've got drop the bomb by trouble, funk peter piper by run dmc, which I found interesting that they're already sampling a hip-hop track that's only a year or two old.

Speaker 2: 44:29

No, it doesn't take long at all, actually. Uh, third base, who's another white rap group that came out a couple years after them sampled beastie boys on their the cactus album nice which was within like a year or two that's awesome.

Speaker 1: 44:41

I think that's a big you know homage like that's. I would think it's an honor it's almost like if you get spoofed by weirdo yankovic, right, it's like wow, man, I've really made it if I'm getting spoofed by weirdo yeah, but they that third base didn't like uh beastie boys early on. But I'll talk about that later okay, uh, let's see third track, sam, I'm sorry, matt god uh, weird, al is is back going tour, if anybody wants to?

Speaker 3: 45:01

know, he he is sold out shows all over.

Speaker 1: 45:04

I'm actually trying to score some tickets, nice. Has anyone seen the daniel radcliffe?

Speaker 2: 45:09

yes yes, that's fantastic the documentary type thing they had on. Uh, is it Hulu or something?

Speaker 1: 45:16

Yeah, I found it very difficult to watch. I thought it was good. Look, there's a lot of slapstick, sure.

Speaker 3: 45:21

It's slapstick, but the way that they had it like he's the one that they're taking stuff off of that was genius.

Speaker 1: 45:25

That's fair, and he was the global media sensation.

Speaker 3: 45:29

Yes, he had all the hot chicks and it was good. He had all the hot chicks and it was good. It was good. That's funny.

Speaker 1: 45:33

I'm sorry. So third trick sampled in or taken in, the new style is Cool, is Back by Funk Incorporated. Then you have 2-3 Break by the B-Boys and Flick of the Switch by ACDC In Posse. In Effect, we hear Catch a Groove by Juice, the Pee Wee dance by joeski love and change the beat by beside in the track slow ride.

Speaker 1: 46:01

We obviously hear low rider by war. We also hear down on the avenue by fat larry's band in the track paul revere. We hear it's yours by Tila Rock and Jazzy J. We also hear Hardcore Hip Hop by Mantronics Within the track Hold it Now Hit it. We hear such tracks as the Return of Leroy by the Jimmy Caster Bunch. Lottie Dottie by Dougie Fresh and Slick Rick Funky Stuff by Cool and the Gang. Christmas Rappin' by Curtis Blow. Drop the Bomb by Trouble Funk.

Speaker 2: 46:40

Yeah, doug E Fresh man and Slick Rick.

Speaker 3: 46:42

They're another couple that I just well, I like Slick Rick on his own as well, but yeah, slick Rick was good Icons yeah.

Speaker 2: 46:48

Doug E Fresh the show that was a jam back in. I mean, as a young kid I remember that I have an older brother that's like five years older A lot of these bands in here, like the rock stuff. I got to be honest, like Led Zeppelin. When I first heard Led Zeppelin I was like oh, beastie Boys. Because, I heard Beastie Boys before Led Zeppelin Same.

Speaker 1: 47:07

I got that as my own little personal fun fact.

Speaker 2: 47:09

Yeah, but a lot of these rap groups that they talk about in their book and that we're referencing here with samples. I was exposed to at a young age.

Speaker 3: 47:18

Yeah, that's interesting what you guys were saying. But I remember hearing Beastie Boys. I have a whole story about that. The first time I actually heard it licensed to L album, where the kid held it, he's like, oh, you guys ever heard it? Yeah, but I remember hearing them and knowing, and knowing the samples from uh what my dad would play.

Speaker 3: 47:37

Yeah Cause my dad was like really in the music uh, growing up, and that's one thing I do remember like fond fondly of my dad is like he had a great like uh, you know, in the basement had like a great setup, like great speakers, and I just remember some of the stuff that he would play. He'd be like, oh yeah, that's cool, that's cool. I can dig that. But hearing some of the beats I'd be like, oh, dude, that rings a bell. I know what that is and I think that's cool.

Speaker 1: 47:59

Not to be confused with Rock the Bells.

Speaker 2: 48:01

Rock the Bells. Rock the Bells, right Radio right.

Speaker 1: 48:05

Next track on Brass Monkey, we Wild Sugar, which is essentially the whole song. The whole track, that is Brass Monkey, minus their lyrics. I'm saying the saxophone, the everything that's from Bring it.

Speaker 3: 48:24

Here by Wild Sugar. That's a great song.

Speaker 2: 48:26

It is a great song.

Speaker 1: 48:27

On Slow and Low. We hear Flick of the Switch by ACDC and in Time to Get Ill. We hear a plethora of tracks. We hear I'm gonna love you just a little more, baby, by barry white. I love rock and roll by joan jett the black hearts. We hear the green acres tv theme yeah by vick mizzy and eddie albert.

Speaker 1: 48:49

We hear the mr ed tv theme theme by Jay Livingston. We hear Gucci Time by Schoolie D, the Party Scene by the Russell Brothers, rocket in the Pocket by Cerrone and Nothing from Nothing by Billy Preston. You've heard, everybody's heard, that track. Fun fact Fight for your Right and no Sleep Till Brooklyn include lead guitar played by carrie king of slayer. Actually, uh, rick rubin had been producing slayer's rain and blood album at the same time yes, he's like dude since you're here, why don't you lay this down for me?

Speaker 2: 49:24

for me, yeah, he was way into the metal music and all that rick rubin shit yeah but here um, oh, you can.

Speaker 1: 49:30

I was gonna say, you can hear that in 99 problems oh, oh, yeah, he would mash it up. His love of metal is there bro.

Speaker 3: 49:37

But it's like Ruben with metal Ruben with. I was going to hold this off until Fun Facts, but since we're talking about Ruben and the stuff that he did, we're in Fun Facts. Yeah, so Kesha, lady Gaga and Adele all worked with Rick Ruben, oh, he's. And then then you're talking like metallica danzig slayer, who you just mentioned chili peppers yep, the cult chili peppers rage against the machine. Weezer the strokes, uh audio slave. He did work for slipknot. He produced most of their albums.

Speaker 3: 50:04

I love the strokes they're good so good system of a down, uh, lincoln park and uh, those are just, yeah, some of the ones that you know that I read about. That he was involved with directly, so the guy knows what he's doing Absolutely.

Speaker 1: 50:18

So, matt, we were at one point talking about your. I'm sure we all have our own personal stories and memories of this album, matt you were going to mention something about when you first heard it.

Speaker 3: 50:28

Yeah, I think I was playing baseball in a team for Lower Slaughter, a Middletown team, and there was this kid, mike Vesa I don't know if I can say his name, or whatever.

Speaker 3: 50:37

You say whatever you want, you're a grown ass man, mike Vesa, I guess he had an older cousin or whatever and he pulled this tape out and we was like six of us going to uh go into one of our baseball games it was the and uh, he, he had like license to ill and he's like you guys are like, oh my gosh, yeah, like we were. So we're putting it in like the songs. And I just remember, like sitting in this caravan, like all of us are just jamming out to to license to ill and I just like I don't know, I just thought it was what. It's one of those things where people talk about music like in a relationship of stuff that happens in life, and it was one of the things.

Speaker 2: 51:10

I just the memory I have of it is just like right on, yep right there yeah yeah, so my memories of it I had, like I spoke about, I have an older brother, so I was uh very much being five years older. He was on, he had his finger on the pulse with, with rap music and everything, because he was like, at this time when this, this came out, he was 15, probably 14, 15 years old and uh, I remember run dmc, he had all that and out, oh, there's like a white rap group, the Beastie Boys, and that would have been my first exposure to it. And then in like 87, I guess, when, like Fight For your Right probably hit the airwaves of of uh, mtv. Obviously I was very like that's a memory of seeing that video, um, and it just was played all the time.

Speaker 2: 51:51

Now I personally didn't like that song. I like the more traditional rap music. So my earliest memories are from like Holding Out, hit it and a couple of those tracks, like the heavy bass and all that stuff like that. So that's a fun fact too about their. I was talking about that drum machine, the 808. At the time they would go on tour and they would have these pa systems that could not handle the low end of the bass of the tracks they were playing, so the they would blow up pa systems like a track or two into their performance.

Speaker 2: 52:24

That's awesome and they would you know, basically tell people like hey, not our fault, tell them to get better equipment like the back blow, would like take out the woofer, then like yeah, it was just too much bass and yeah, so it was basically they were creating music and all these rap groups at the time were using that TR-808, I think it was called drum machine, so the frequency was just so strong. It was so low. That is the tempo.

Speaker 1: 52:48

I've heard such things Right.

Speaker 2: 52:49

And then obviously car stereos and all that at the time were coming in. They were probably around for a little while, but people would have the booming systems and they were talking about how you would just hear up and down streets like this.

Speaker 3: 53:02

Of course, do drive by with the booming system this was the album to play.

Speaker 2: 53:04

Well, this and run dmc and all that, yeah, like yeah, that's my earliest memory of that is just kind of I have a vague memory of like oh, there's white boys, that rap, that rap, that's pretty cool, and then Fight For your Right. I was probably 11 or 12 by then.

Speaker 1: 53:18

It was all over the airwaves yeah for sure, I guess my earliest memory is, I mean for sure, very similar. These guys hit MTV. My first exposure would, of course, have been like Fight For your Right or something with a heavy guitar to it, but that ended up not being any songs I liked, like none of the like, none of the not, none but that, that video. I remember seeing that and thinking like my god, this, oh my god, this is scary, right, this is like being a kid, you see, like uh, I don't know dio or slayer or something like that. Like, oh my god, they're making devil signs it, it's hard rock stuff, it's like forbidden.

Speaker 1: 53:56

Yeah, it is forbidden, but I remember listening to it with a good buddy of mine from grade school, jeremy Thomas. Jt yeah we just recently saw him. Love you, brother, and just loving it, absolutely loving it, and loving the truly the traditional music, you know, hip hop ones, not the ones so commingled with with, with the rock per se but but truly the, the, the hip hop ones.

Speaker 1: 54:21

Now, obviously that's not to say that I don't like the rock ones. In fact I love what anthrax later on went on, went on to do like a year or two later with a public enemy Bring the noise.

Speaker 2: 54:29

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 54:31

Love that stuff, like beastie boys's versions of that. It's just that I remember and fancy the, the, the hip-hop style ones just the the most, and again, it's the new style. It said yeah, it's it's like the the, those childhood memories that you just don't forget right and like for beastie boys.

Speaker 2: 54:49

Like I said, I dug them like as an 11 or 12 year old, but I really would say it was by the time I got my license in high school and was driving and had like a good, even the v-dubs and stuff too. Yeah well, even in high school, like just having a stereo in my car, I had the kicker box and this was an album that you would put on like the like, like your for your system for competition.

Speaker 2: 55:09

It'd be like not even for competition, but just like flex, to show like, oh, the base that you could, you know that your car could have. But a buddy of ours that we graduated, paul Zavini. I remember him like like we were. He was like, oh, you got to check out, uh, paul's boutique. And when Paul's boutique came out I'm not going to lie, so good, it was good, but I didn't get it. I'm like, no, I want licensed to ill. Music Like Paul's boutique was kind of like uh, an experimental to me, like like, what are they doing? Why are they changing? But he was like, no, you got to go into the tracks and listen like like, uh, you know high plains, drifter and this and that, and hearing it on a good stereo a couple years later, this is like 93, 94. I'm like, oh shit, this is a great album. Oh, my god, yeah, but license to ill definitely as well. I mean it. But I dug license deal when it first came out and still do.

Speaker 2: 55:58

I still think it's a great album.

Speaker 1: 55:59

I remember this album coming out and I remember not sticking with it long. I'm not going to lie and say, oh, it's my favorite album of all time I spent months and months with this album.

Speaker 1: 56:08

I mean, I listened to it a couple of times and I dug it, and I will, of course, go on to hear more singles, but at the same time, look, as we're doing this review, I'm certainly going to, you know, listen to that album a few times and let it all soak in again and you know, we really rekindled those memories that were associated with this. And, man, this is this really was like during our formative years. When this came out, it was it's memories again.

Speaker 3: 56:31

Like Matt had said, I'll keep repeating it, it's just things you don't forget Right what I I dig about the beastie boys is at that time, um, like rap was basically like a black thing and it was black rappers, this and that. And I think, with uh run dmc able to bring the beastie boys on that tour and introducing people that were into like run dmc, like hardcore rap, into the stuff that the beastie boys are bringing as like these three young white kids, that they could actually do it too and it's like, it's something that brought like rap into.

Speaker 2: 57:04

Like it's not just like, like like a black thing, it's like a, it's ours, then it's like an everybody thing yeah, I think it opened like a bunch of doors and I thought it was a pretty cool thing yeah, because I mean you're definitely being influenced as as young kids by what you're listening to and stuff. So it was like oh, like you know, you know, maybe like a young eminem was like oh, I mean, you know I could do that or I'd like to do that, like maybe I could do that.

Speaker 3: 57:24

But like you said, about like a third base or people like that, or even like uh, who was the guy that everybody made fun of? He had his own snow no, it's no informal. He was an american though, like I think he was canadian yeah, but um, no, like, um. Who's that vanilla ice? Yeah, like he wouldn't have ever tried to rap or whatever, it wasn't for the beastie boys.

Speaker 2: 57:44

True even though his rap was weak. But no, it wasn't that good yeah, it was.

Speaker 3: 57:47

It was one of those things, I think they opened a lot of doors and kids could dress that way and not feel like, uh, they could dress like a little gangster and not feel like they can't dress like that man vanilla ice's beats is wack yo I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 2: 58:00

When vanilla ice first came out, I was like, yeah, this is nice.

Speaker 3: 58:03

I like this song like yo, we went to the movie man.

Speaker 1: 58:05

Yeah well, I'm talking about the uh, ice, ice, baby I was like no, we had ladies at.

Speaker 3: 58:11

We had ladies there.

Speaker 1: 58:12

There was ladies did you have girlies on standby?

Speaker 2: 58:14

waiting just to say hi exactly so there's also a story too, like 92 is when talking about beastie boys. But in 92 check your head came out and I remember that's around the same time that it was 92, 93, I guess that chili peppers released uh, was it blood sugar seconds?

Speaker 3: 58:30

magic now.

Speaker 2: 58:31

They definitely have a kind of. Some of those tracks on blood sugar, sex magic, you would say or I don't want to say it's rapping, but it's they had a similar sound like to me. Some of those tracks on blood sugar, sex magic, you would say or I don't want to say it's rapping, but it's they had a similar sound Like to me. Some of the tracks I couldn't tell. I remember hearing a, a chili peppers song and thinking it was the beastie boys or vice versa. I remember at that time because the beastie boys went from what we know as licensed they all like mostly pure hip hop to more playing their own instruments and stuff and I'll never forget that, Like I was in 10th grade and I bought Check your Head, thinking let me check out Beastie Boys. Maybe they're back to doing what they were doing, but it was kind of like a hybrid where they're playing instruments and it's rapping but getting confused like which one's Chili Peppers on tracks and which one is Beastie.

Speaker 1: 59:12

Boys. I want to say that Blood Sugar Sex Magic might have come out in 91 I feel like it was give it away.

Speaker 2: 59:18

Now was the song that I was like is that a song?

Speaker 3: 59:20

yeah, or is that?

Speaker 2: 59:22

uh, yeah, I remember being confused about that that was a great album too, though oh yeah, that'd be a good album review well, check your head. Obviously is one I really love to look like. It's like our logo.

Speaker 1: 59:34

What? What album had um sabotage?

Speaker 2: 59:37

that would have been um. It's like their fourth ill communication, so that would have been um. It's like the fourth ill communication, so that would have been our senior year.

Speaker 3: 59:41

My bell got the ill communication so why don't we talk what's?

Speaker 1: 59:47

uh, let's roll through like your first, second, maybe even third, you know favorite album songs on this, on this album and uh, which ones you know obviously with that, the ones you liked and which ones didn't you like, and why, uh, dave, your pick. Okay, so you pick the album you go first.

Speaker 2: 1:00:04

So for me, probably my favorite track is paul revere. Um, it's one that I just like, this, like the story aspect of it, like I'm a big fan, like I said, of slick rick, I'm a big fan of, like storytellers, and when I hear a song, a rap song especially, I like to like almost go through like a little story, you know what I mean like it actually tells you a story, sure, kind of follow along, and I think that Paul Revere is a fun, you know, and I like the beat. It's a cool beat. So that'd probably be my favorite. My second favorite song, I would probably say, is it'd probably be rhyming, not rhyming and stealing, I'm sorry, holding out, hit it, I just like the beat, um, and it's just one that I like, and then probably after that it would be brass monkey.

Speaker 1: 1:00:46

I would probably say interesting, yeah, I'd probably get with those three.

Speaker 2: 1:00:49

Uh, like I said, I like outside of fight for your right, girls, because it's just kind of like a quick, I mean it's whatever it is but and fight for your Right. No Sleep to Brooklyn. I'm a little played out on.

Speaker 1: 1:01:00

Okay.

Speaker 2: 1:01:03

And Sloan Low Time to Get Ill. Those other ones are just okay. Ryman and Stalen I dig too.

Speaker 3: 1:01:07

I should say that because yeah, I have that one on there, the Led Zeppelin beat.

Speaker 2: 1:01:10

I dig that.

Speaker 3: 1:01:22

But yeah, if I'm gonna pick three, okay, okay, matt, what do you got? Uh, I had uh, hold it now hit it, brass monkey, which I've always loved. It was that's just like a fun yeah, like a fun one to sing. Um, uh, the new style rhyming and stealing. I have like those four as the ones that like I really can get into it. But I like, I like all the songs, even, like I said, like earlier, girls is like a stupid song, but it's just fun to sing yeah, it's just like um fight for your right.

Speaker 3: 1:01:40

I can't stand anymore. Uh, I don't think I ever really like like that song at all, even when it came out, like the videos and everything and, uh, no, sleep till brooklyn also, like I really liked when it first came out. But I think that got played out too yeah, it's just too much.

Speaker 2: 1:01:54

Yeah, okay, what do you guys have?

Speaker 1: 1:01:57

I can dig that. So my number one by far and away is going to be hold it now hit it yeah, that's a good one that is. That is the best, that's the first and, if I recall correctly, that's like the first beastie boy song I heard and it was just mind-blowing. Just loved it and I love the sampling. It's good, it's upbeat, it's just, it's a feel-good track. Uh, my second one would be probably she's crafty she's crafty I like that because it sounds like at the time.

Speaker 1: 1:02:29

This is why I liked it. At the time it was very reminiscent of a that could be a run dmc song yeah 100, that's a one a run.

Speaker 2: 1:02:35

Dmc track one of these is a, a run dmc track that they had shelved.

Speaker 1: 1:02:39

It is Slow and Low.

Speaker 2: 1:02:41

Yeah, I was going to say Slow and Low. Yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1: 1:02:44

God, I hate that fucking song.

Speaker 2: 1:02:45

Yeah, it's not good. I can't stand Slow and Low.

Speaker 1: 1:02:49

My third, like would be Slow Ride.

Speaker 2: 1:02:52

Okay.

Speaker 1: 1:02:52

Definitely dig on Slow Ride but, like you guys had mentioned, definitely don't like girls, don't like Fight for your Right, although I'm sure I had liked it at the time because of its suggestive nature. Right, don't like no Sleep Till Brooklyn. Paul Revere was close to make the list. But I don't like Paul Revere for the same reason that we're going to get into our next segment. Who's your Favorite Beastie Boy? I cannot at all. Just with every ounce of my being, she said, every ounce, can't stand the voice of Adam Horowitz.

Speaker 2: 1:03:30

Ad-Rock, king, ad-rock, oh really.

Speaker 1: 1:03:32

Cannot stand his voice. That nasally kind of it is nails on a chalkboard to me. I can't stand it From here to.

Speaker 3: 1:03:39

Gord it. Okay, it's a gardenia.

Speaker 2: 1:03:40

Yeah, do you know? Originally he wanted to go with a deep kind of voice. He was like I can't pull it off, so I got to come up with some kind of gimmick. So he went to that nasally.

Speaker 1: 1:03:48

He nailed the gimmick.

Speaker 2: 1:03:49

Yeah, and he was like I got it because I don't have the voice. It's kind of like me with you two. I'm the Adam Hoare with the ad rock, so you don't like me. Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 1: 1:03:57

No, not at all. Now it's interesting. So, but now it's interesting that I say that I can't stand his voice on, oh, on that track. On that one track or these or so many tracks yet. Yeah, when it comes to sabotage, I can't imagine that song without him doing what he does in that track.

Speaker 2: 1:04:16

Yeah For um. For me I get what you're saying about that, though, like on that, I could see where it's. Like he his voice. On license, they'll across the album.

Speaker 1: 1:04:24

On certain songs you could see where it'd be after a while I just want to punch him in the fucking face.

Speaker 2: 1:04:29

But he might be my favorite beastie boy If we get into that. I don't know when you want to right there, let's get into it. So, dave, your favorite beastie is ad rock. No I would say, yeah, ad rock uh, mike, d would be a close second yeah and that would probably be my order, and mca is one that I I used to not, I used to not really dig at all, but uh, as I got to, um, read more about them, learn more about them and realized how important he was.

Speaker 3: 1:04:58

Yeah, and and I don't know. I just like he's definitely grown on me his style was a yeah, like he mca had, like he, he brought that like dmc style he was so like looking back on it.

Speaker 2: 1:05:11

He was so smooth and effort yeah, yeah, he didn't really try no yeah he was definitely cool matt who's your favorite beastie.

Speaker 3: 1:05:18

I don't think I really have a favorite beastie, I think. I think all that, like I don't think one would be one without the other one lonely beastie I'd be, yeah right all by myself, nobody. But no, they, they couldn't. I think the three are the beastie boys for a reason. I mean what y'all?

Speaker 1: 1:05:36

y'all's not here, no more he passed away 2012 yeah 2012, which is a shame, because that's my favorite. Yeah, mca is by far and away my favorite. I love his, the raspiness to his voice. He, in my opinion, uh, ad rock and mike d sound almost the same. Almost the same. Mike d is just a step. Mike mike d you could say it's like a hybrid between MCA and AdRoc, like somewhere in the middle, but he's much. Mike D is much closer to the level of AdRoc in the level of annoyance right.

Speaker 1: 1:06:06

MCA with that, the raspy voice, or the different voice, the regular voice of his, like Matt had said, the way he just flows MCA 100%. Love that guy all day yeah, mca is great.

Speaker 2: 1:06:17

So on our logo, zap is AdRoc, I'm mike d and matt is mca on our logo.

Speaker 3: 1:06:23

But I I just think, yeah, the beastie boys couldn't have been they. They were brought together at that time and place to be like like many of the bands that you see that are going to be around, that people are going to hear for years to come, and we're long gone. I think, like the three of them together if there was only two of them it wouldn't be the same.

Speaker 1: 1:06:41

Nope.

Speaker 3: 1:06:42

Like I think they need all three. I don't think I really have a favorite, or else they wouldn't be the Beastie Boys. They wouldn't be the Beastie Boys, agreed.

Speaker 2: 1:06:47

And I love, like I said, not only the music but their style, everything about them. And in teens and into my early twenties and got even more and more into the Beastie Boys, I emulated how they dress, just their, like the Adidas and the. You know, just as they grew and as they would come out with things I w I would use that as a barometer for what's cool, like what, what do we wear now? Like what are the Beastie Boys doing? Um, and I definitely learned as I got older to kind of appreciate their style and just everything about them and they're definitely very influential for me. Yeah, just my favorite. I would say definitely up there as one of my favorite bands, groups rap groups, bands whatever you want to say.

Speaker 2: 1:07:31

But I have a couple of cool stories out of the book that I just kind of want to go over real quick.

Speaker 3: 1:07:35

Do tell, don't go quick, it's. Yeah, this is story time with dave.

Speaker 2: 1:07:39

Yeah, man so real quick back to their it's never real quick.

Speaker 3: 1:07:43

I'm gonna make this quick because I know we're getting there.

Speaker 2: 1:07:45

You don't have to just go ahead, man but uh, so back to the the start of everything, and there's a cool chapter in this book about a 1981 show by the band black flag. Who are you guys, I'm sure are aware of black flags so at that show that night that's henry rollins.

Speaker 3: 1:07:59

That is henry rollins.

Speaker 2: 1:08:00

Yep that was kind of the genesis of the beastie boys and how they decided like we need to start a band now at that show that night. All three of them were there, but not only them, not only the three of them that were there now they they didn't quite know each other at the time but also there was uh, thurston moore from sonic youth, ian mckay from minor threat dang, henry garfield, who was in the audience, who would later go on to become henry rollins, and he became the lead singer of black flag. So there was a lot of people in that audience in 1981 who went on to become very famous people in bands and stuff. So black flag in 1981 was very influential in a lot of artists deciding, hey, we need to start a band or get together and make music. So I thought that was a pretty cool story out of the book Next up.

Speaker 2: 1:08:48

We all know Mike D liked to wear the Volkswagen logo. So there's an actual ad that they had to put out. Volkswagen put this ad out I don't know if it was in magazines or newspapers. It said designer labels always get ripped off and there's a picture of a like a Volkswagen GTI with the logo missing and it says. People have been sporting our Volkswagen badges for years, proudly displaying it on the front of their cars. Recently, though, many have been heard to out swear at Beastie Boy the result of finding their badges have gone missing. Their protests haven't fallen on deaf ears, because, as of now, our badge is a positive steal. In fact, it's free. You can lay your hands on one of your own, as opposed to somebody else's, simply by writing us to the address below. Let it never be said that we're over averse to youth cults. After all, who brought you the Beatles?

Speaker 3: 1:09:41

So yeah, so you could write the volkswagen and get a logo. Can we still do that? Can we try that today? I?

Speaker 2: 1:09:44

don't know, there is, uh, there might be an address we can kind of make out here at the bottom so we could try yeah, I would like to try. That's worth a shot yes, I thought that was pretty cool. And then one last thing here. I thought this is pretty wild.

Speaker 2: 1:09:55

Like with fake news, we always talk about fake fake news so when the beastie boys traveled to england there was all kinds of uh like papers and stuff writing fake stories about them, like making them sound like they were like the most hard people on earth. So there was a like. Here's some headlines from the daily mirror pop idol sneer at dying kids go away you cripples.

Speaker 3: 1:10:16

Yeah, they made fun of the cripple kids. Yeah, I saw that this stuff never happened.

Speaker 2: 1:10:20

They were like we've never done any of this uh get lost. Beasties door slams on vile us band yeah, the british hated them for some reason and they made up all these stories about them, like yelling at cripples and damn and all kinds of wild stuff. So I just thought that was like really, really wild, yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:10:35

So I think dj hurricane had a whole thing on that where he was like we he's like the people in london hated us and he said that they went there and there was a whole thing written up about how they said during one of their concerts they started making fun of like crippled kids and kids in wheelchairs that's bananas yeah, and he was like this stuff never happened, but he's like they hated us over there yeah, and one last story, because zap, you'll appreciate this, i'm'm mad.

Speaker 2: 1:10:56

Matt, I told you this story, so he knows about it. So we you like Paul's boutique as a, as do I probably say that's your favorite album, absolutely, matt. What would you say Beastie boys Favorite album? I don't really know.

Speaker 3: 1:11:06

You don't know, you don't have. Yeah, I don't know, but good yeah, so anyway.

Speaker 2: 1:11:16

So Paul's Boutique. They moved out to LA. That's their second album, so they rented a house out in LA and recorded there Like they would record there. They had a studio nearby as well. They would work on music. They rented this house and there was a locked, closet door in this house and they're like getting high and they're like we got to get in that closet. Sure, we got to get in that closet sure I gotta know what's in that closet.

Speaker 1: 1:11:38

Go to any beach rental. You go to any airbnb. You're going to find a locked closet door.

Speaker 2: 1:11:41

So they finally jimmy the lock, get it open. There's all this 70s wardrobe and this is an 88, 89, 88 probably. And they're like look at all these clothes. This shit's wild, like we gotta like. So they start dressing up in the stuff. These are the clothes you'll see, hey ladies, and they're out by the pool and all that wearing those outfits. So these are all outfits out of that closet. But that same day that they found all these clothes, they get a call from their agent. He says there's a birthday party tonight for Dolly Parton and we want you to go. You need to show up. There's going to be a lot of people there to network with. They all decide like, hey, why don't we wear these outfits to this party? It'll be pretty cool, you know.

Speaker 2: 1:12:20

So Mike D, I think, was the one with his girlfriend that took off for the day. It was like all right, guys, I'll meet you there. And they're all dressed in a seventies wardrobe. While he left for the day, ad-rock and MCA decide screw that, we're not wearing this stuff. This would just be bizarre. You know, we're not going to do it. There's no way to get a hold of mike d because it's 1988, no cell phones, screw it, whatever. So he shows up to this party dressed in these wild ass outfits him and his girl, and mike d or ad rock, I'm sorry, an mca, or dress normal for the you know 1988 or whatever. So mike d's piss, he's like dudes, what the hell? You know what I mean? I'm wearing this to this party. I look like an idiot because this is 10 years after the 70s. The 70s isn't cool yet Right. You know how stuff changes after a while.

Speaker 1: 1:13:01

Retro isn't cool yet.

Speaker 2: 1:13:02

Right.

Speaker 2: 1:13:03

So this is the part you'll love, zap. He sees Mike D's there at this party and it's a who's who. Everybody's there. He looks over and sees Bob Dylan. Okay, he's like I'm a huge Bob Dylan fan, I I want to go over and introduce myself, but I look like an idiot. But screw it, when am I going to get a chance to talk to Bob Dylan?

Speaker 2: 1:13:19

So he goes over, introduces himself Mr Dylan, my name's Mike D, I'm a huge fan. I'm in a band called Beastie Boys and you know, I just want to tell you I'm a huge fan of your work. And Bob Dylan says well, what are you good for? And he's like what do you mean? Like, what are you good for? What are you good for? Like, how many per night? He's like how many people like per night at our show? I don't know, we get like a couple thousand, you know thousands. Maybe he's like cool, cause I'm having a benefit concert for smoking and I'd love you guys to play there. And he's like you're having a benefit concert for smoking. He's like yeah, so I don't know if Bob Dylan was punking him that night, but he was going to have a benefit for smoking. Oh, and he wanted the Beastie Boys to play there.

Speaker 1: 1:13:59

So when I hear benefit for smoking, just to be clear, is this to To keep smoking, to continue smoking.

Speaker 2: 1:14:06

Right, like you know they were fighting. That's the way I heard it.

Speaker 1: 1:14:08

Yes, okay, so I'm thinking what was happening Because when I hear like each year there's the Great American Smokeout. I smoked my fucking brains out that day right.

Speaker 2: 1:14:15

So what I think bob dylan was saying is like hey, they're trying to outlaw smoke.

Speaker 1: 1:14:19

Yeah, we need, we need to benefit it like it's not it's not bad, that's right, so I think bob dylan did smoke.

Speaker 2: 1:14:24

He started the whole thing with like american spirits and stuff like that right, but I just thought that was like there's so many cool stories in that book and that was just the one that. Now that's more to do with paul's boutique what is the book?

Speaker 3: 1:14:34

is you have it there? It's's called Beastie Boys Book.

Speaker 2: 1:14:36

Beastie Boys Book.

Speaker 3: 1:14:37

yeah, Any kind of name to it, or just Beastie.

Speaker 2: 1:14:40

Boys Book Just Beastie Boys Book.

Speaker 3: 1:14:41

There it is. People should check that out.

Speaker 1: 1:14:42

I might have to borrow that it's like Bible size.

Speaker 3: 1:14:44

It is, it's big.

Speaker 2: 1:14:45

I thought it was the Bible.

Speaker 3: 1:14:46

when I walked in here it's the Beastie Boys Bible Book.

Speaker 2: 1:14:49

It is, but, yeah, definitely like the review on it. This was a good time, dave, I I appreciate that. Uh, that album review. Who, who who's next on the album review? I kind of like the album review we don't even know.

Speaker 1: 1:15:07

We don't even know. I would think that did you pick? Uh gnar, that was so. The gnar was like a hawker. That was a hawker call in the first one was uh, you know, we're doing this for nutley nick. Let's do this to get somebody in here a big fan of the show. So for nutley nick we did bon jovi bit. Another big fan of the show. For hawk, hey, man you pick.

Speaker 3: 1:15:22

So he picked appetite oh, we should have a fan come in? Yeah, fan pick, and they can come in and do the album review we shall see who knows what the new year, who knows?

Speaker 2: 1:15:32

we don't know well, nutley nick will be pissed if I do not reference that. He's the one who actually recommended a vintage album review. He was like you need to do that, and I do get a lot of people oh, you should do this, you should do that.

Speaker 3: 1:15:42

Thank you.

Speaker 2: 1:15:43

Like snowman says we should do a vintage video review, or we review old school videos from MTV.

Speaker 3: 1:15:48

And we get a lot of cool recommendations. A vintage video review would be fun. We haven't tried that.

Speaker 2: 1:15:53

But yeah. So I don't know what'll be next on that. Um, I like that idea, maybe having somebody that you know picks it and we kind of interview them and talk to them why.

Speaker 3: 1:16:01

But yeah, but I'm saying like for an album, since it's not like part of like the I don't know what. I don't know where we're structured at it.

Speaker 2: 1:16:06

The new year is crazy, it's 2025 25, speaking of which this will be the last one, for actually we are in 2025, but this will probably be the last one for a little while, while we sort out what direction we're going to go and what we're going to do in the old, dirty basement.

Speaker 3: 1:16:19

So um, yeah, we could clean it up. Could be the uh clean, nice clean basement.

Speaker 2: 1:16:24

We don't know right, but uh, you guys got anything else on this before we wrap it up?

Speaker 1: 1:16:28

I got nothing else other than thanks for this. This was wonderful.

Speaker 2: 1:16:31

Happy new year everybody yeah, definitely, and uh still can find us on old dirty basement, on facebook and instagram and Instagram at Old Dirty Basement Podcast. On TikTok Tell a friend, review it. Spotify, apple, all that good stuff, five-star ratings, like we say. And I guess that's it for now, so we'll catch you where.

Speaker 3: 1:16:47

On the flip side.

Speaker 1: 1:16:48

If we don't see you sooner, we'll see you later. Peace.

Speaker 2: 1:16:52

Thanks for tuning in to the Vintage Album Review and the Old Dirty Basement. You can find us and our theme music from the tsunami experiment on Spotify, apple or wherever you get your music and your podcast. Don't forget to leave that five star rating on Spotify, and I guess that's it for now, so we'll catch you where on the flip side If we don't see you sooner, we'll see you later.

Speaker 1: 1:17:13

Peace.